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i got to reading this and i think, imo putting dyeing a animal is wrong they cant tell you no unless they nite you then what happens? they get put down. Ive seen people put color in horses mane and tails for shows and halloween but its made for horses. my opinion=inhuman no unless it is misused, wrong=yes

On ear cropping and tail docking, like most i am against it unless it is for a medical reason. I used to have a doby, we never cropped his ears or docked his tail and he was still a beauty.

on the vocal cord cutting, if i could id shooot anyone who did that, if you dont like a dog barking then dont get one.

as for removing claws or dewclaws= people can say what they want, im not against it. i got my cat and she was already declawed and she doesnt bite, act different or anything. she is a happy go lucky very talkative cat who loves attention and to play. she is a inside cat and the only time she goes outside is to go into our backyard and chill. she doesnt even car about trying to climb anything she pretty much just sleeps. and dew claws where i live, we have our dogs dewclaws removed because we dont want them to get caught on the neigbors wooden fence or any of the other fences. i have seen pictures of dogs who dewclaws ended up getting stuck and when the dog struggled pulled it out and the bone was showing.

all in all, i love to eat meat, i love my pets and all animals, if getting dewclaws removed or removing the front claws on a cat is wrong, well then each to their own. I know when i had my dogs done it was done the humain way ) meds and was put to sleep), if that is inhumain then might as well consider spay or nuetuer inhuman to cause it involves altering a animal and then if that is inhumain get used to all the poor animals running around with no home becuase people cant afford the offspring.

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Siliverin wrote:as for removing claws or dewclaws= people can say what they want, im not against it. i got my cat and she was already declawed and she doesnt bite, act different or anything. she is a happy go lucky very talkative cat who loves attention and to play. she is a inside cat and the only time she goes outside is to go into our backyard and chill. she doesnt even car about trying to climb anything she pretty much just sleeps. and dew claws where i live, we have our dogs dewclaws removed because we dont want them to get caught on the neigbors wooden fence or any of the other fences. i have seen pictures of dogs who dewclaws ended up getting stuck and when the dog struggled pulled it out and the bone was showing.
Dewclaws I can understand, most pets here have those removed too, and they don't really serve any purpose. But for a cat it's different. They NEED their claws, and I'm certain your cat would be happier with them still there. It's a natural thing for cats to climb around, and without their claws they can't do that. They're also the cats defense. the cat would feel insecure or threatened without them.

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Oh and don't forget they can't fully clean themselves with out their claws. I'm wathcing my cat right now and hes useing his claws to walk on a plank of wood outside. Opps he nearly fell off XD but his claws saved him! hehe. Oh and they can't play with out their claws or do anything fully cat like.

BTW declawing is one of the major reasons i can't stand people from the USA who act like the USA is the best place in the world and stuff but thats another topic lol
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To judge someone for doing that is wrong - the cat can survive fine, she said its her opinion not yours. My cats are declawed, one we got like that(after her owners had declawed her and set her loose outside now it IS cruel if its an outside cat) and the other 2 were humanely done. We have our reasons for this 1. Our cats dont go outside and 2. One of our cats all ready had to see the vet because his ears were severely scratched up by the other two kittens who still had thier claws we did this so they cant hurt each other like they WERE doing. My cat can climb and jump just fine without them, whatever your opinion you dont need to judge others because they feel differently than you. Our cats were getting into tussels and hurting each other and the younger kitten almost took my dogs eye, dont tell me you can help that when its a kitten who wants to run and jump and play. Everyone has alternate opinions on the subject which again is why I said sili said its HER OPINION and I agree with her. I felt I did the right thing to keep my animals safe and in the end thats all that matters.

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If you want to torture your animals, go ahead. I'll just shut up, since it seems you're perfectly content with taking away natural parts of your animals lives. Besides, if they're clawing each other, then they don't work well together. Either get them to like each other or separate them. But taking away their claws, even if it's done humanely, is wrong, since it hurts the animal regardless.

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Saturo wrote:If you want to torture your animals, go ahead. I'll just shut up, since it seems you're perfectly content with taking away natural parts of your animals lives. Besides, if they're clawing each other, then they don't work well together. Either get them to like each other or separate them. But taking away their claws, even if it's done humanely, is wrong, since it hurts the animal regardless.
Sorry but sometimes you have to declaw an animal. And when done correctly, and by a good vet, it can be fine for the animal. It's only dangerous if the cat, as mostly it's felines that are declawed, gets out of the house. Then it can't defend itself. But some cats, do need to be declawed. Sometimes they are just that bad to others AND people. And honestly, a good declawing is better than some idiot trying to trim their cats claws and failing horribly and doing, guess what, clipping to close to the quick or whatever and causing the cat to BLEED from it's claws.


Also the death penalty does not make the USA uncivilized. I'd rather see people fry for doing obsenely evil and malicious attacks on people, children and pets, than see them let free because some liberal claims they're fixed. And sometimes not even one day out, they've done it again and another person has become a victim. If that makes me uncivilized in your eyes well tough titties as I don't give a damn.
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What we do here is just let them rot in prison a life scentance is a life scentance.
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I don't agree with declawing, I never have. You can clip your cats claws to make them less dangerous, but just plain declawing them is bad. We've had a declawed cat before, and even though he was an inside cat you could still tell it was a hindrance for him to not have them. I'm not going to judge anyone for doing it, but it is something that I seriously disapprove of.

The death penalty is NOT inhumane. If it keeps a murder from killing anyone else, if it protects innocent people, then if anything it is completely humane. The other two options are complete incarceration until death of old age, which means that the people end up PAYING for these criminals, or letting them go. If you do it right, then the death penalty is a good form of prevention. After all, if one potential murder see's what happens, and DOESN'T kill some one out of fear of that, then hasn't it just prevented some one else from dying?

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We don't do the death penalty nor do we let killers go we just let em rot in jail and become the new toy to the big islander guys XD
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Becoming the toy to the big island guys is probably the best punishment I've heard of for murder and rape and such. :D

I've never approved of the death sentence, and I never will. It's not a discussion I want to be part of either, I've seen that topic go REALLY bad.

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Aye if you have seen some of the islanders i have seen there huge! really big guys. scary as hell too if your a little white girl like me
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cowmuflage wrote:Aye if you have seen some of the islanders i have seen there huge! really big guys. scary as hell too if your a little white girl like me
Youseen American History X? Good movie overall, but it has a scene about the most awful part of jail. Or, well, several scenes. But one in particular.

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