Anyone Else...

[Jadvya]

If her turning into a common skin ruins her for you then maybe you weren't that attached to, or in love with her in the first place.

This. A thousand times this.

[Acherontia]

How on earth did you get the cat to dance in-game? O.o

[Azunara]

Piccolo, I'd imagine. Or Mohawk Grenade. Either way, Bear/Cat pets can dance because they share it with druids. As does Loque'nahak I believe.

[Jadvya]

It's from a TCG reward party bomb thing.

[Tulune]

I'm not sure exactly how long Araga has been around but in my five years of playing WoW I've seen her ONCE. That's it. Just one time and a male orc hunter had her as a pet and I saw them in a dungeon. He wasn't even on my server. I seriously doubt that even though she's going to be made into a common skin that all the sudden every hunter is going to get one and she'll turn into a belly button pet.

She's one of the rarest pets used now and I doubt that will change. Especially not when Echey's, Humar's and other 'cooler' skins are still readily available in the game. Araga is beautiful and cool yes, but it's not looking like she's going to be bellybutton cool.

If her turning into a common skin ruins her for you then maybe you weren't that attached to, or in love with her in the first place.

I tame rares specifically for the rare skins, so her being a common skin does affect my view towards her now. Yes, I am what you would call a trophy hunter. It's just part of my personality though, as a have a collection of rare minerals and crystals IRL (green double terminated Apophyllite FTW!)

I just fail to see why people are getting mad at others over differences of opinion

EDIT: oh gawd, a newbie? i havent been called that in a while

[Saturo]

I just fail to see why people are getting mad at others over differences of opinion :?

Well, some people here have been left out on tameable mobs that then became untameable, and they want a second chance because they found it unfair, think Gezz and the the crocoslime. Some think that it's fair, because if they really wanted it, they should have tamed it when they had the chance, and are perfectly happy to sit around with their now unobtainable pets.

At least that's how I got this whole fight.

[Tulune]

I just fail to see why people are getting mad at others over differences of opinion

Well, some people here have been left out on tameable mobs that then became untameable, and they want a second chance because they found it unfair, think Gezz and the the crocoslime. Some think that it's fair, because if they really wanted it, they should have tamed it when they had the chance, and are perfectly happy to sit around with their now unobtainable pets.

At least that's how I got this whole fight.

And I am inclined to agree, even though I have no unattainable pets of my own. Would I love a chance at, say, the ghost wolf? You bet your bum I would. At the same time though, I think it should be kept unobtainable because it really would lose some of it's awe. Just my humble opinion though, don't shoot!

[Kalliope]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion! It's when the discussions dissolve into name calling and personal attacks that things get ugly.

I think the concept of harder to obtain pets is a good one, and everyone has their idea of what defines a challenge, or what has value to them.

I have no desire to tame a ghost wolf, but I think that Blizzard should have left them available as the ridiculously difficult tame they were. Ditto Gez. Still hard to get and a prize for the collectors, but still available for those who missed their chance initially. I'm not unhappy with how Blizzard's handled the pink and blue tallstriders; the rares were pretty common to begin with (though I wish the clutch mother was still around). Araga was a different story, although I do doubt that many will use the skin just because it's more widely available. Still, although her skin was unique, she didn't strike me as being a crowning jewel of the rare skins. (I didn't play in vanilla; maybe she was more of a big deal back then.) So I can understand why Blizzard did it, although it's not really fair to those who grabbed her just because she was uncommon. Oh well, can't please them all.

[Kiingeh]

This is kinda like Humar, his skin was unique until Wrath of the Lich King was released and the mob in Sholazar was given the same skin.

What I am trying to get at- just because the skin is no longer unique, doesn't mean it takes away from your efforts, luck nor chance over taming Araga.

In some way yes it does, every hunter likes to show off their pets.

Araga was a different story, although I do doubt that many will use the skin just because it's more widely available. Still, although her skin was unique, she didn't strike me as being a crowning jewel of the rare skins. (I didn't play in vanilla; maybe she was more of a big deal back then.)

Back in vanilla rare pets actually had better stats then other pets of the same type.
Broken tooth was one of the more used ones as he had the fastest attack speed out of any other pet, though he was always camped by at least 1 person or if you just missed it then Araga would be next to try for.

[Nevar]

I'll say my two cents, I have a hunter friend who has as listed these as his pets - Crocoslime, Hydralisk, Ghost Wolf, Gezz, and the Hive Queen. He tamed them because he liked them however when a baby hunter or another hunter whispers him saying "Whered you get that pet its so cool!? Where can I get one!?" He told me his heart sinks a little bit inside, he likes collecting pets yes but he hates having to tell that little hunter whos so excited that they may have found the perfect pet for them that they cant get it anymore. I'll quote his words "While I like collecting them, I do however believe that they should all be reimplemented for the sake of reasons missed taming said beast. I love my pet and others have them just because they are rare now nt even because they really like them.. Why should I be one of the only ones to call a spirit wolf my friend?" Hes a great person and I echo his thoughts completly, It is in my beliefs that even if skin is common it shouldnt put YOU down saying you did nothing, YOU know you tamed the real thing or got it when it was hard /shrug - Its an easily fixable problem..put a special tag around the portrait of the real rare spawn etc but dont take away from those who may never have the chance to find their real friend in game because you dont want others to have it.

[Dr. Rockso]

Why get all pissy and sad over it be happy that other hunters will be able to get this without spending days of camping. You had yours before it was widely available so just be happy about that. Why cant you be happy for the hunters that don't have the time to camp these rares finally get there opportunity to get them now ? I doubt blizzard will change anything about this and i say they shouldn't. Here is hopen make the spirit wolf a common pet

[Rhyela]

I have no desire to tame a ghost wolf, but I think that Blizzard should have left them available as the ridiculously difficult tame they were. Ditto Gez. Still hard to get and a prize for the collectors, but still available for those who missed their chance initially. I'm not unhappy with how Blizzard's handled the pink and blue tallstriders; the rares were pretty common to begin with (though I wish the clutch mother was still around). Araga was a different story, although I do doubt that many will use the skin just because it's more widely available. Still, although her skin was unique, she didn't strike me as being a crowning jewel of the rare skins. (I didn't play in vanilla; maybe she was more of a big deal back then.) So I can understand why Blizzard did it, although it's not really fair to those who grabbed her just because she was uncommon. Oh well, can't please them all.

That's exactly how I feel. I don't think every single rare skin should suddenly be made widely available, however, I also don't think that they should retire certain skins entirely. Leave the challenging ones challenging, but leave them in the game for Pete's sake! I personally wouldn't want Gezz or the spirit wolf, but I charged off to SB the moment I hit 75 for KK. He's the only green devilsaur in the game and I'd love for him to stay that way, to kind of preserve his "legacy", so to speak. (Although I wouldn't be against having another rare or hard-to-tame green devilsaur.....just as long as there isn't a Green Devilsaur Island in WoW )

[Sarayana]

those who grabbed her just because she was uncommon

I think this is really what it boils down to. Why did you tame that pet? Was it because it's a rare or because it's a skin you wanted to much that you were willing to camp and wait for a rare spawn to get it?

I agree, I think those really hard tames should have been left in the game. Sure they'd be more common, but on the other hand, I'm not trying for Krush mainly because I can't be arsed to camp and then have the difficult tame on top of it. Beautiful skin, but I don't want it enough to go through that. In my opinion, the allure has to extend beyond the mere fact that it's a rare before I'll want to have it. I want Loque, I've wanted him since I saw the models way back when. To me, then, he's worth the trouble.

*shrug* It'd actually kinda make me happy to see more hunters running around with more fantastic skins. Why not? They're awesome skins, why should those other hunters not get to have such awesomeness just because they started playing too late in the game?

[Elvirra]

Personally,IMO,this is a...um....how can I say this without sounding like a douchebag?...hmmm....really,really stupid argument. Look,I stumbled across two of my Spirit Beasts,Arcturis and Logue'nahak...and I felt an attachment to both of them right away...NOT because they were elite rares,but because I wanted them waaaay before they were even in game! The fact that another hunter was unlucky(or lucky,depending on your point of view) and had to spend half a year camping,or longer,has no bearing on how i feel towards my pets,or their's,for that matter.

Rare Elite camping is one way a hunter gets his pets,some(like me! ),have them thrown at her/him. Why does it matter what anyone thinks about me because I didn't spend half my WoW life camping King Mosh,Logue'nahak or Aotoona?! And why should I give a rat's ass about the other hunter still camping King Krush because he likes the color green?! More power to him,is all I can say.

Rare or common,if you don't bond with your pet,then no amount of camping is going to make that pet worth it. Enjoy what pets you have,and let others enjoy their pets for whatever reason they have.

Just my 2 copper...


Kitairra

Edit: Oh! And ever since I saw BRK's video about the Hive Queen,I've wanted that wasp in the worst way!! Come Cata,if she's still tameable,she will be the first pet I tame! Because I love that skin sooo much! (And to hell if she's rare or not,I want her!)

[Azunara]

I can see where the whole side of, "But then it's a common. It's not a special pet anymore" is coming from. I tamed Krush because he was pretty, unique, and a challenge. I enjoy trying hard tames, because it gives such a sense of accomplishment. If Krush was easier to tame, would I be sad? No! I'd go out, level a hunter, and go tame the easier to get Krush, and proudly show my Krush off to the masses.

Another example, Iorek. Iorek is my Shattered Ramparts wolf. When I first they were tamable, I gathered up some guildies, we went in, tamed Iorek, finished the instance, and got out. A few days later, Iorek was the MOST common thing under the sun. Everyone and their mom had one. Yes, I was disappointed, but I don't care THAT much. I love my Iorek because he's -mine-.

I think what we need to realize is two things: One, just because Araga is a more common skin, doesn't mean she'll be more common. Pitch got placed in LK. Were there suddenly a million more black lions? I didn't see this on Cenarion, so I'd say no. Second, I know I infrom every one who asks me how I got Krush, I tell them he's a rare spawn, and he spawns in Shola and he can't be frost-trapped. Even though I just risked making my Krush a bit more common, I don't feel bitter. It makes me happy when I see a hunter with an awesome pet. I always cheer the pet and hunter when they have ooze, hydra, ghost wolf, Gezz, any of them. Because one day, I'll be one of those people with a special, unique, hard to get pet and someone will be cheering for ME.

[Worba]

I infrom every one who asks me how I got Krush, I tell them he's a rare spawn, and he spawns in Shola and he can't be frost-trapped. Even though I just risked making my Krush a bit more common, I don't feel bitter. It makes me happy when I see a hunter with an awesome pet.

I never tamed Krush but I did tame The Beast, which in my view is the next hardest tame (and seems to require the same basic tactics), and I can say that 90% of the people you tell, will either 1) camp him and give up (I've seen him all of once), or 2) find him but get RAWR-stomped and wake up next to the spirit healer, run back only to find a DK happily looting his giant green carcass and give up - his natural "tame defenses" are enough to keep Krush tamers the few and the proud, in my view.

[Azunara]

Well, yeah. I tell them, and I warn them its a pain, but I DO tell people how I got my Bayne.

[Kalliope]

As an aside, I consider instance tames (especially at level) to be quite difficult, even if the beast can be trapped. You can be stuck working with four other people who could either help you or possibly mess things up for you, or you could be feigning your way through an instance alone. Plus, getting smacked in the face by an elite because your trap doesn't last long enough isn't fun either.

So while your instance pet may not be unique, it's still hard, IMO.

[Worba]

As an aside, I consider instance tames (especially at level) to be quite difficult, even if the beast can be trapped. You can be stuck working with four other people who could either help you or possibly mess things up for you, or you could be feigning your way through an instance alone. Plus, getting smacked in the face by an elite because your trap doesn't last long enough isn't fun either.

So while your instance pet may not be unique, it's still hard, IMO.

The Beast is unique - shows up as level -1, and displays BOSS/SKULL when you mouseover him.

[Sarayana]

As an aside, I consider instance tames (especially at level) to be quite difficult, even if the beast can be trapped. You can be stuck working with four other people who could either help you or possibly mess things up for you, or you could be feigning your way through an instance alone. Plus, getting smacked in the face by an elite because your trap doesn't last long enough isn't fun either.

So while your instance pet may not be unique, it's still hard, IMO.

I agree. I usually make sure to have a group of friends with me if I'm trying to get an instance pet. Nothing's more frustrating that some idiot from the dungeon finder deciding he's waited long enough for you... >.>