Oh HAEL no.

[Rethei]

Did you stop to maybe think that maybe the other Hunter may allready have Loque tamed.. I will have to side with Karathyriel on this.. Since neither wanted to tame Loque and no other's in Shalozar did at that time.. I would have done the same thing. I have Killed Loque myself.. All I need for the Frostbitten achiev is Aotona and Icehorn.. I have tamed Loque and Skoll and Arcturis and Ghondria... And since Blizz has either not wanted to expand our slots or not care for us Hunters much anymore.. I have slowly gotten rid of a few of the Spirit Beasts... Loque and Ghondria went first; once I had tamed both the Spirit of Koosu and the Spirit of Atha... Two slots I may never get back; I will never get rid of those two.. I have a wolf and Skoll and Pitch... No more slots.. I wrestle with getting rid of any tamed beast I have, and have asked many a Guild friend to help choose which must go.. Most leave it to me to choose; my pets, my thing.. When they (Blizz) removed the TAG ELITE from our hard won pets... Taming realy doesn't mean anything any more.. They are just DPS now; sad, but true.. And Spirit Beasts just don't have the kill power they need for raids...

Maybe for you they are just used for their dps but for me taming beasts and having them means something more. Hence why im here and why i browse through the gallery of pets and reading through other people's stories. That is why a actually name my pets, give them meaning (regardless if it is serious or for sillyness) i see nowadays most tame the pet and leave the generic "cat", "wolf" etc title.

The said hunter that killed Loque responded to the "who wants to tame her" so it seemed obv that he/she was in fact going to and upon not being Bm decided to kill it instead and got Northern exposure. It seems like he wasn't after getting the frost bitten achieve and thus why the cause for "rage", the rare spawns take time to camp and even fight others to tame it.

Im pretty sure there may have been hunters swooping in to look for said beasts and could have had it but didn't because someone ended up killing it because they weren't bm.. i find that on the tad foolish side.

[Azzrazzah]

OK. I understand your rage.. I name my pets.. First, go back and reread the messages.. Nowhere in them did the other hunter say they wanted to tame Loque... A hunter of any lvl above 70 knows you have to be BM spec to tame exotics.. I'm sorry but I still think I have to side the way I did.. If your gonna offer up a tame to a server of unkown people.. Be preppared to lose it... I think the adrenalin rush of coming upon a Spirit Beast with no one around got the better of the main hunter.. I'm sorry the other hunter took advantage of.. But that's the game...

[Rethei]

OK. I understand your rage.. I name my pets.. First, go back and reread the messages.. Nowhere in them did the other hunter say they wanted to tame Loque... A hunter of any lvl above 70 knows you have to be BM spec to tame exotics.. I'm sorry but I still think I have to side the way I did.. If your gonna offer up a tame to a server of unkown people.. Be preppared to lose it... I think the adrenalin rush of coming upon a Spirit Beast with no one around got the better of the main hunter.. I'm sorry the other hunter took advantage of.. But that's the game...

I Def understand hun, sorry if my post was "raged" towards you it wasn't. It was mostly just me expressing my frustration out loud as i have seen this happen on quite a few occasions.

Perhaps that hunter did indeed lost sight of better judgment and killed it be accident, anyways what is done is done ahh C'est la vie

[Suicune]

Well, go ahead and flame me for this... but to all of you who are up in arms about people killing Spirit Beasts for loot or Achievements because of what the creatures are... do you kill rares? Any at all? Tukemuth, King Ping, Crazed Indu'le Survivor... Terror Spinner? Have you ever killed one of them twice?

How about when hunting one of said Spirit Beasts? Have you ever killed King Krush more than once or even Aotona, just to get Loque to spawn? Zul'drak Sentinal or Terror Spinner for Gondria? How about Arcturis? Did you kill Seething Hate?

Have you ever seen a rare and said 'Hmm a rare, oh well.' and flew away, leaving it there to roam? If so, that's amazing, haven't met anyone in my game-time who has. I guarantee most have killed a rare twice or more. Why not? It's a mob.

My point is, what if someone is after the achievements, or doesn't do dungeons and can't get Heirloom gear, so they rely on rares for their blues, or heck, maybe they want a quick buck. Is it fair to them you killed a rare to get a beast for you to tame to spawn, when you already killed it, or don't even care about Frostbitten/Bloody Rare? What if they really need that creature to complete something that they really want, and have been looking for 'forever'?

This game has many aspects, many ways of playing, and many people who play. Some will find things not fair, that really... are perfectly fair in the nature of this game. If the rares were made specifically for taming, Blizz wouldn't give them blues or loot at all. I understand the pain of having someone kill a beast you hunt for ages for. It sucks. It also sucks when someone kills something that was given the chance to be tamed- not many will do that, and it sucks if that hunter was really out for the kill instead of a tame... but yes... even though they should know a pet wouldn't be tamable in a certain spec, not all hunters do.

When I was looking for Loque after I switched back to BM while leveling up, a caster said in General that they killed some silver thing and got an Achievement. It was obviously Loque, and I am pretty sure that they didn't know how sought after he was by hunters.

I said all of that (you are crit by wall of text!) to say this... if you are angry that someone kills a tamable beast when they asked if anyone wanted it with no reply, then you shouldn't kill a rare- any rare- that counts towards Frostbitten/Bloody Rare if you don't care to finish that achievement... and you definitely shouldn't touch a rare if you already killed that particular one. It's the same thing. Killing something when someone else might need it, whether for taming or achievement. All in all, a rare is a rare.

Happy hunting

[Rethei]

Well, go ahead and flame me for this... but to all of you who are up in arms about people killing Spirit Beasts for loot or Achievements because of what the creatures are... do you kill rares? Any at all? Tukemuth, King Ping, Crazed Indu'le Survivor... Terror Spinner? Have you ever killed one of them twice?

How about when hunting one of said Spirit Beasts? Have you ever killed King Krush more than once or even Aotona, just to get Loque to spawn? Zul'drak Sentinal or Terror Spinner for Gondria? How about Arcturis? Did you kill Seething Hate?

Have you ever seen a rare and said 'Hmm a rare, oh well.' and flew away, leaving it there to roam? If so, that's amazing, haven't met anyone in my game-time who has. I guarantee most have killed a rare twice or more. Why not? It's a mob.

My point is, what if someone is after the achievements, or doesn't do dungeons and can't get Heirloom gear, so they rely on rares for their blues, or heck, maybe they want a quick buck. Is it fair to them you killed a rare to get a beast for you to tame to spawn, when you already killed it, or don't even care about Frostbitten/Bloody Rare? What if they really need that creature to complete something that they really want, and have been looking for 'forever'?

This game has many aspects, many ways of playing, and many people who play. Some will find things not fair, that really... are perfectly fair in the nature of this game. If the rares were made specifically for taming, Blizz wouldn't give them blues or loot at all. I understand the pain of having someone kill a beast you hunt for ages for. It sucks. It also sucks when someone kills something that was given the chance to be tamed- not many will do that, and it sucks if that hunter was really out for the kill instead of a tame... but yes... even though they should know a pet wouldn't be tamable in a certain spec, not all hunters do.

When I was looking for Loque after I switched back to BM while leveling up, a caster said in General that they killed some silver thing and got an Achievement. It was obviously Loque, and I am pretty sure that they didn't know how sought after he was by hunters.

I said all of that (you are crit by wall of text!) to say this... if you are angry that someone kills a tamable beast when they asked if anyone wanted it with no reply, then you shouldn't kill a rare- any rare- that counts towards Frostbitten/Bloody Rare if you don't care to finish that achievement... and you definitely shouldn't touch a rare if you already killed that particular one. It's the same thing. Killing something when someone else might need it, whether for taming or achievement. All in all, a rare is a rare.

Happy hunting

Nope no flames to you hun :]

i personally chalk it up to blizz hating Bm hunters and them adding incentive for ppl to kill the mobs we want top tame >.>

[Saturo]

Aye, Blizz could fix it easily, just by removing the rare tag and the need to kill Loque for Frostbitten. Most people I know would ignore mostly any beast without a rare tag. The "zomg rare" however screws us over.

[Azzrazzah]

The rare thing is fine.. it's the loot and the achiev that they need to get rid of... Then no-one but us hunters would want to go after them

[Azzrazzah]

I just thought of something... Why hasn't Blizz designed an achievment for hunter's that are able to tame all of the Spirit Beasts??

Call it the Spirit of the tame achievment

[Vephriel]

Even if they removed the loot and achievement, most people still have a knee-jerk reaction to kill a mob that's tagged as 'Rare'.

Ah well. I can't deny that it adds a sense of risk and danger while seeking creatures such as this. It's horrible when someone kills the beast you've been stalking for hours, but at the same time once you finally get them it's the biggest rush in the world. If they were always spawned and practically never killed by others it would almost seem too easy. x) Maybe I just have a masochistic side though.

[Gala]

wow. considering how badly i want that pet.

i would have shot him in the face with a jackhammer.

[Teigan]

If Blizz would just take those rare spawn beasts off that stupid, bloody achievment...that would solve so many problems!!!
And, I read this to be a deception from the start. I don't think that other hunter had any intent of taming Loque from the start. I think he/she just wanted the achievment and decieved Ryno and took advantage of her (his? sorry!) good intentions. Grr. Hate people sometimes. Gonna go live in a cave with my wolf.
You tried to do something nice, Ryno, and kudos to you for that.