TAMABLE HYDRAS? (patch 4.1 on PTR, no tamables found yet)

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I apologize if I confused anyone by removing the hydra page from the front of Petopia. I immediately started getting e-mail from people who aren't really aware of the whole PTR thing who were very confused by the family suddenly showing up on the front page. And then I went walkabout and didn't think to read this thread for 7 pages or I would have explained a week ago. ;)
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Thats understandable im just saying that it shares a few things in common with other exotics usually big or has more then one head hydra fits that, if its exotic(meaning another ability) that would be great but if not id be ok with that the main thing is that we get our hydra right?

Is it just me or have hunters been getting more buffs then any other class since 4.0.1 (aside from volley and eyes of the beast meh we have movable pets anyways)
were getting extra ranged ap on our hawk we get to select aspects while mounted
(should have had that anyways lol) and all pets will be same lvl as hunter when tamed and pets have 125% damage and no longer need to make it happy, feed pet adds 50% base health, multi-shot has 195% more weapon damage and deterrance can be used without a melee weapon all in all i think hydras would just be the icing on the cake just hope it doesnt have a bad aftertaste lol

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Zangor wrote:hunters got more non exotic families this expansion compared to the 1 new exotic shale spiders
i think another cataclysm exotic would be a logical choice and the fact that the supposed ability for the hydra appears to be an exotic raid buff/

but wither way would be good....BM isnt that bad and with dual spec you can always have uit as an off spec blizz did a good job at upping BMs damage from wrath
What part of a 5% crit buff says they have to be exotic? They were only datamines with one actual ability, the dnd is just coding for the creature becoming a pet or some such.

The thing about wanting them to not be exotic is because I don't want to have to take every hunter I make spec BM just so I can get all the really cool pets and I'm sure others feel the same way.

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i think there should be a pole to see how many people think if hydras are tamable sometime in the future whether it should be exotic or not can u add polls to threads?
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Ugh no it'd turn into a giant BUT I WANT spam fest and be completely pointless.

I just can't understand why we can't just kick back n wait and see. All the BUT I WANT in the world won't change the fact that Blizzard have obviously toyed with he idea but are not yet willing to reveal their decision on what they will do with Hydra. The only I WANT I'd rather see is if the decision is no to Hydras from the devs, those who have the old Oracle version are made usable. Thats about the most productive thing you can do right now.

[/edit] To add, there is nothing wrong with discussing which Hydra you'd like, your hopes etc. But this CONSTANT grabby hands I WANT THIS I WANT THAT doesn't say much of people. If they get put in, which they may or may not, we have no idea if they're going to be Exotic or not. I constantly fail to see how the BUT I WANT is going to effect the development team's choice other than kicking up the thread every day or so just to get the last word in.
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it never was definite i read all 13 pages prior to this one so that i would be up to date on the discussion if u think our discussion is getting people's hopes up etc or whatever we can just not talk about it and just talk about other hunter stuff would that be better?

btw i was mid 70s by time the hydralisk was taken away so i didnt get any it was never meant to be tamed i know but still it would have been nice
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I never said it was getting people's hopes up, I am just getting sick of these BUT I WANT springing up every few days, fighting over whether Hydras should be exotic or not when it's not even confirmed we're getting them. I've got a subscription on this thread in case you know, it does happen so the same thing hashed over again and again as people want the last word in, augh.

I never said anything against ghost hydra either. I simply stated that if the Devs choose NOT to go with Hydras, those with Ghost Hydra have theirs fixed and usable again before the patch is released. Right now they're a shiny with a cool icon you can't really do anything with so it wouldn't be fair.
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Frankly, I couldn't care less about hydras unless they do something more interesting with the buff. I already have an exotic crit buff pet, So we need something else.

AOE.

Come on, three heads, and it's not an AOE pet? We really need that, and exotic or whatever, I don't really care, but we need something else with AOE damage abilities. Frankly, I would love to see them as an AOE trash-tanking pet. That would fill a unique roll that we don't have currently.
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i think the three heads would make for an interesting charge/root combo where the hydra would clamp the target down wit 2 heads and the third would deal some damage for a short amoun of time kina like te silithids venom web before they got rid of its damage dealing part
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Zangor wrote:i think the three heads would make for an interesting charge/root combo where the hydra would clamp the target down wit 2 heads and the third would deal some damage for a short amoun of time kina like te silithids venom web before they got rid of its damage dealing part
That would work as well, allthough I still like the AOE idea better, but another crit buff? booring....
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[Acid Wave]
40 yd range 20 Focus
Channeled 10 sec cooldown
The hydra fires many acid bubbles upward in all directions,
the bubbles explode causing 300 nature damage and applying a debuff to anyone who is affected by the acid wave.

[Acid Bubble]
It Exists for 1 minute
Nature resistance of all nearby enemies is decreased by 25%,
this effect can stack up to three times and is reapplied whenever enemies re-enter the acid bubble. only one acid bubble can be applied to an enemy at a single time

i know it is op but i thought id see what u think if my writing is off etc?
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Hydra Sputum also works eh?
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Nice finds, I kanda hope there not BM only...I want one on my main...but I am sure they will be....but I got my BM alt so its still good.

Ideas and also looking, when it comes to pets hydras are one of my favs.
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what did u guys think of my aoe idea?
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As much as I want to believe it was going to happen, I think it's not. As I said I think it's just an error on someone's part on MMO and was subsequently removed.

My hopes are dashed and as much as the great ideas that are being thrown out for taming by folks on here, yeah. I think Blizz is going to leave these like all the other untamable beasts. Left for us to sit and swoon after wishing we were some of the lucky few to get theirs back in the day.

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Well, except hydras have never been tamable.

Why would Bliz go to all the effort of generating a 'hydra family', which -has- been proven on the PTR, just to support the teeny handful of people who managed to tame Atha? A mob that hasn't been tamable for what, a year? Two years? Blizzard has enough on their plate to not do -anything- that would be extraneous if they can possibly help it. Hell, they've left things that are actually -broken- unfixed for a really long time (Northrend Buzzards, I'm looking at you)... so why on earth would they go make a family for something untamable?

Now, it might well not happen with the Firelands patch. But to throw up your hands and assume it will never happen at all? That seems alarmist and kind of silly. Honestly, I'm expecting to get basilisks one of these days, since they use croc rigging and all. But since no one has had one tamed before now (unlike hydras), it's impossible to check for ourselves if there's a "basilisk" family, only if a given mob is tamable or not.

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I personally don't think hydras will come with 4.1. They've already pushed the Firelands stuff to 4.2 which, to me, suggests that they're having a hard enough time with the ZA/ZG revamps and class balancing.

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i agree on that if we do get a hydra then good if not oh well it wouldnt make much difference anyways perhaps they were just getting the basic hydra stuff out if the way and toss it to the side untill everything important is finished

Edit: if hydras existed since wow has launched then its 7 years course i started at 2006 were hydra's tamable before then?
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Hydras have never been tamable. The lucky few who currently have them on live tamed them when, due to a bug, the Atha spirit for the Oracles daily thought it, like the ghost croc and slime from the same quest, were crocolisks. They are currently in the crocolisk family and share those abilities. Because Blizzard corrected the bug but did not remove the tamed slimes and hydras from the game, they are referred to as "legacy pets" at the moment.

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i didnt think so lol im preety sure anybody with the hydralisk would switch if we got a real hydra unless its exotic then again they may get it regardless, before i knew about the hydra stuff i just wanted glyph of greater proportion which was originally mend pet and my hunter still has that glyph but atm it appears as glyph of lesser proportion which is completely useless imho.
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