Rawr wrote:But a Red Panda isn't a panda at all it's more closely related to the American Raccoon than any bear (even Panda bear)
They are just as closely related to skunks as they are too raccons they have no close living relatives XD
The Musteloidea consists of the families Ailuridae (red pandas), Mustelidae (mustelids: weasels), Procyonidae (procyonids: raccoons and kin), and Mephitidae (skunks). So yes that is true but I was making the point that they are not bears and should not be in the argument of whether or not Pandarens have tails because Red Pandas are not bears at all.
That brigns up a good point tho. Pandas are black and white...there are other red and brown ones,but it'll be neat to see what the color options are. It'd be kind of boring if they just moved the black and whtie areas around.
Personally... I'd rage if they were red pandas... XD Sure they share the name panda but they're in different families. And yeah I guess it's a fantasy video game. XD
Ignore me I suppose, I'm just being an OCD science nerd.
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Personally i think its a belt, they're giving pandaren unique belts to fit the concept art and old WC game graphics imo, we have already seen the males outfits and in all the races, each class has its own outfit but each gender wears that same outfit
For the record I didn't mean that the entire female gender was red panda. My earlier comment was more like "it could be an available skin tone". You never know, brown and white, black and white, brown and red/brown... I mean they can still be Pandaren with different fur colors.
However, I seriously doubt its a tail. And that sketch is super awesome. I would so play a pandaren if thats close to how they'll look.
Ah I see. I guess that falls into the "it's a fantasy video game and reality doesn't always matter" xD I don't exercise my creativity enough these days. ^^;
It would seem that lately I've been seeing things as
*puts on sunglasses*
Black and white.
looks like they rehashed the female dwarf or goblin model rather than start something new from scratch. Hardly surprising, but no less annoying if true. Wasn't the female worgen just a rehash of the draeni chicks? Here's hoping its just got temporary dwarf/goblin animations and its otherwise an all new model.
Kayb wrote:looks like they rehashed the female dwarf or goblin model rather than start something new from scratch. Hardly surprising, but no less annoying if true. Wasn't the female worgen just a rehash of the draeni chicks? Here's hoping its just got temporary dwarf/goblin animations and its otherwise an all new model.
You realize every skeleton is based off of each other somehow, right? Thats how games are built
The skeleton is what is applied to the model and is the part that animations are tied to. Hopefully this cutout is just using another race's animations temporarily until her own are finished. The current pose it stands in leads me to think this could be the case.
My main concern is that I hope they didn't just modify an existing model to make this one, as I think they did for the worgen females. I'm hoping they did the right thing and built a whole new model from scratch like they did with all the other player models.
There was actually a discussion on the mmo-champ forums about this. Someone tried to for both female dwarf and female goblin into the female pandaren outline and had a bit of trouble.
You should find both images on this page: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/100 ... le/page261
The funny thing about those posts though is that they are saying 'no they didn't use a dwarf model because look, it doesn't fit!'. That theory doesn't prove or disprove anything, the polygons of a model can be altered to have certain aspect widened or trimmed down.
I'm not saying they have rehashed an old model, I'm not saying they haven't.
I'm saying that I hope they haven't, that is all. If they have, then so be it.
Seeing the very first screenshot posted in this thread, the male pandaren appear to be a rehash of male tauren but if you look in the trailer, they act nothing like a male tauren. The males may be a rehash of a tauren but mogrified extensively to add in the new movements which give the skeleton its own distinct form. Female pandaren might be this way too. A rehash of an old skeleton but heavily overworked to become a distinct form. Everything is a rehash of older basic models, just that things are added and removed as blizzard sees fit.
Xakaal wrote:Seeing the very first screenshot posted in this thread, the male pandaren appear to be a rehash of male tauren but if you look in the trailer, they act nothing like a male tauren. The males may be a rehash of a tauren but mogrified extensively to add in the new movements which give the skeleton its own distinct form. Female pandaren might be this way too. A rehash of an old skeleton but heavily overworked to become a distinct form. Everything is a rehash of older basic models, just that things are added and removed as blizzard sees fit.
Exactly. You take a basic base and work with it from there.
Jessibelle wrote:You realize every skeleton is based off of each other somehow, right? Thats how games are built
Possibly, but then Bliz has already stated the Panda skeletons are nothing like the old ones, they literally have 10x the number of bone structures. But then it really depends on how talented the model/skeleton designers are at blizzard. They could go either way (though I know if it was me, it's always easier to go from something in general.)
Art Director Chris Robinson spoke on this just moments ago at the BlizzCon Open Q&A panel. It was in reply to an attendee who brought up that, in the art panel, it was explained that the pandaren model has 10 times the bone structures of the classic races, allowing for many more facial animations.
Kayb wrote:looks like they rehashed the female dwarf or goblin model rather than start something new from scratch. Hardly surprising, but no less annoying if true. Wasn't the female worgen just a rehash of the draeni chicks? Here's hoping its just got temporary dwarf/goblin animations and its otherwise an all new model.
Sure then may be possible they "started" with a dwarf, or a human, or a gnome! (though very unlikely imo) but in the end it's a bit off to say that it is just a rehash of an old model, when to create a new model with x10 the amount of bones it's pretty much a do over. (did you see how "giggly" the Panda guys where when they moved, it was amazing )
We also be aware that she is standing side on in the silhouette, which is the classic "How to look thinner in photo's" trick. She may have a bit more Oomph to her just yet
I do like how many people are excited about the possibilities of a silhouette though, forums all over the world are nuts and speculating so many great things and ideas, it's great press
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This is true but I mean like they start with a base then build from there...typically the human is the base structure. Then edit and rebuild as necessary I suppose.
i think they began with tauren and then started chopping things and placing them elsewhere and then added more onto it at the very least if they made it with a completely new start, it seems to have tauren influences since they're bulky (and im not bias on thsi i promise! i havent played a tauren in a couple years XD ive been playing skinny chicks )
they have no close living relatives XD
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