Pterrorwings: A Discussion (New Poll!)

[Wain]

Let me step in here. Being excited at the prospect of taming something new does not preclude gratitude at what we already have. This is the pet discussion thread and part if that always has been, and always will be, discussing other things we'd like to see tameable. Such discussions should be able to occur without having to defend against claims of ingratitude every time. Ingratitude is when posters act as though they expect them or say that Blizzard isn't doing enough or is being lazy just because it isn't what they personally wanted. Being hopeful of other beasts is motivated by excitement not ingratitude.

So please stop it. The right to express an opinion should be tempered by the exercise of judgement on whether it's worthwhile doing so.

[Nick]

Not that it really matters much in this sort of debate but when using Dire Beast on Isle of Giants, it will sometimes summon a Pterrorwing as the beast it calls.

(I, myself, like the look of them but I think they may be a bit too... clunky to be a "pet" pet? People already bitch about Devilsaurs, Rhinos, Chimeras, any big pet really. Adding another -- while some would for sure love it -- would probably cause a lot more moaning and complaining than needed.)
((Not like people don't do that about mounts (specifically Tauren, Draenei, and Worgen on mounts) but still.))

[HunterFTW]

personally i am vary great full for loque'nahaks excetents.so i am not going off and saying "he good but not that good" in fact i say he is the king because he is my fav and is the main masscot of the spirit beasts.but as far as when i see a new pet goes i do to think i would like to tame that.some pets (like the porcupines spirits) i said i would not go after cause i thought not much of them but what did i do.i went to try the red one and got lost in the heat of the challenge and had to get all 3.

to get back on to OP.i would not mind if it was tamble by all hunters being a BM hunter.its hard work already to get the item to drop(well for some it is) as long as if they do bring this item in make it so we don't have to worry aboy the direhorn droping again for those that have it already.or instead of it being a drop the blood elfs can make some sort of challenge to teach us hunters how to tame them.i say blood elfs sense i have been reading that they have been tameing these beasts to.

[Quiv]

I would love them as well, though seeing them as a Dire Beast makes me kinda feel like its the "runner up" prize concerning tameability. Maybe im just still bitter about beavers . Love their models though, Pterrorwings are gorgeous.

[SpiritBinder]

((Not like people don't do that about mounts (specifically Tauren, Draenei, and Worgen on mounts) but still.))

Ironically, Worgen have some of the smallest mounts. The mount size is locked to the frame of a human (which they can turn into) and thus actually looks overtly top heavy on most mounts, it's kind of sad actually. Also draenei are not too far off. Funny thing is a gnomes mount is actually substantially bigger than a worgen mount, that’s the part that annoys me the most

[Nick]

Ironically, Worgen have some of the smallest mounts. The mount size is locked to the frame of a human (which they can turn into) and thus actually looks overtly top heavy on most mounts, it's kind of sad actually. Also draenei are not too far off. Funny thing is a gnomes mount is actually substantially bigger than a worgen mount, that’s the part that annoys me the most

I've never really noticed because my main worgen chara is my druid so I usually stay shapeshifted but yea, I've noticed that top-heavy camera pan and it makes riding certain mounts impossible for me because it really annoys me for some strange reason.
Blizzard, your mount sizes are drunk. Tell them to go home.

[Agravaine]

I would love them as well, though seeing them as a Dire Beast makes me kinda feel like its the "runner up" prize concerning tameability. Maybe im just still bitter about beavers . Love their models though, Pterrorwings are gorgeous.

They are spectacular. I wouldn't be surprised if their tameable form is actually in development, nor if they turn out to be a new kind of exotic pet.

As for beavers... Blizz probably hasn't seen this yet.

[Zhinru]

As for beavers... Blizz probably hasn't seen this yet.[/color]

I'm starting to think the beavers on Dire Beast were a reference to Dungeons & Dragons. When you get a summoning spell, one of the first creatures you are able to summon is a dire badger. Beaver, badger - similar enough, eh?

[Equeon]

One day left to vote on the current poll! I'm changing it to "What should the ideal Pterrorwing size be?" tomorrow, but I need some choices...

*Dire Beast size
*A little smaller than Dire Beast
*?
*?

[Agravaine]

As for beavers... Blizz probably hasn't seen this yet.[/color]

I'm starting to think the beavers on Dire Beast were a reference to Dungeons & Dragons. When you get a summoning spell, one of the first creatures you are able to summon is a dire badger. Beaver, badger - similar enough, eh?

Not at all. That's like saying that cats and rabits are similar enough because the Chinese year of the rabbit is also known as the year of the cat.

Also, as someone who was raised on stories about anthropomorphic animals, I can categorically state that badgers and beavers are completely different. Their colors are different, their basic body shape is different, their diet and lifestyle are diffrent. One is a rodent and the other is a carnivore. Their names are similar, but that's about it.

[Zhinru]

Not at all. That's like saying that cats and rabits are similar enough because the Chinese year of the rabbit is also known as the year of the cat.

Also, as someone who was raised on stories about anthropomorphic animals, I can categorically state that badgers and beavers are completely different. Their colors are different, their basic body shape is different, their diet and lifestyle are diffrent. One is a rodent and the other is a carnivore. Their names are similar, but that's about it.

Okay, I derped there a bit, but I've been seeing this confusion before as well. Maybe the person who implemented this had the same mis-conception?

[Bowno]

One day left to vote on the current poll! I'm changing it to "What should the ideal Pterrorwing size be?" tomorrow, but I need some choices...

*Dire Beast size
*A little smaller than Dire Beast
*?
*?

Larger than Dire Beast
GODZILLA


Perfect last two choices.

[Wain]

While not directly on topic, this is too much of a coincidence not to mention. A reconstructed giant pterosaur fossil has just gone on display in Brazil, giving us an idea of what the largest real pterosaurs looked like:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21899635

[SpoonyBard]

What would be an interesting hunter skill would be temporary beast taming (similiar to classic mind control)... But that's my own thing (I want humanoid tamable pets for priests! BAH!)

Anyways, yes, I agree it would be nice to see them tamable. We only have 3 flying pets, that's Prey, buzzard, and wasp, Wasp is new. Why not a 4th? We have combo pets already.

Eg.

Spirit beast combos (different species of spirit beasts)
Insect combos.
The wild combos (simple beast skins)
the exotic combos (unusual beast skin)
Why not a dinosaur combo? (Direhorn, Rex, Raptor, Pterror, Crocolisk/Basilisk)

[Gimlion]

What would be an interesting hunter skill would be temporary beast taming (similiar to classic mind control)... But that's my own thing (I want humanoid tamable pets for priests! BAH!)

Anyways, yes, I agree it would be nice to see them tamable. We only have 3 flying pets, that's Prey, buzzard, and wasp, Wasp is new. Why not a 4th? We have combo pets already.

Eg.

Spirit beast combos (different species of spirit beasts)
Insect combos.
The wild combos (simple beast skins)
the exotic combos (unusual beast skin)
Why not a dinosaur combo? (Direhorn, Rex, Raptor, Pterror, Crocolisk/Basilisk)

Not exactly true: Bats, Sporebats, Nether Rays, Dragonhawks, Windserpents, and Chimaera.

[Zhinru]

While there are more than three flying pet families, it IS weird we have only two major bird families (cranes and plainstriders are both non-fliers). I know Blizzard only came up with two abilities, but I bet they could do more if they wanted.

[Gimlion]

While there are more than three flying pet families, it IS weird we have only two major bird families (cranes and plainstriders are both non-fliers). I know Blizzard only came up with two abilities, but I bet they could do more if they wanted.

Maybe, but BoP and Carrion Birds, outside of the two land-based birds (I still think cranes can fly, we just haven't seen it in-game), are really the only remotely aggressive enough birds I can imagine for combat pets. Ravens and Crows are both technically carrion birds IRL, and not many others can I see fighting outside of large groups. The only other bird I can imagine would be a phoenix, but those have already been stated as elementals.

[Kalliope]

While there are more than three flying pet families, it IS weird we have only two major bird families (cranes and plainstriders are both non-fliers). I know Blizzard only came up with two abilities, but I bet they could do more if they wanted.

Birds of Prey used to be a number of sub-families prior to the merge that gave them all a family ability. At the time, at least, more than two wasn't in the cards.

[Equeon]

While not directly on topic, this is too much of a coincidence not to mention. A reconstructed giant pterosaur fossil has just gone on display in Brazil, giving us an idea of what the largest real pterosaurs looked like:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21899635

Interesting! Not sure how that size would work as a tamed pet, though.
Any word from above on the status of these 'dactyls?

On a bad note, I can't get the poll to work at all. It will duplicate the options randomly and remove others.

So for now, just say your choice in the comments.

Poll 2
How Big Should Pterrorwings Be When Tamed?
1. The current Dire Beast size.
2. A little smaller than the current Dire Beast.
3. 1.5 (roughly) times smaller than the current Dire Beast.
4. Other, and I will explain in the comments.

Just put 1, 2, 3, or 4 at the end of your post and I'll tally them all at the end of this poll.

Some screenshots of existing pterrorwings, shamelessly copied from the first post.

Size comparisons of existing pterrorwings... (If you ask me, these are a little too big.) Use these pictures for reference before casting your choice in the new poll!


Juvenile Skyscreamer


Thunderwing (Adult)


Dire Beast


Dire Beast (Aerial Shot)

[HunterFTW]

i am thinking devilsaur size.