Thoughts On Volley Removal - Survey

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The loss of hunters having a true "AOE" damaging ability
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20%
The loss of utility that the current volley offers - pvp/los/etc.
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12%
The fear of not being able to "AOE" effectively - grinding/pet lvling/old content
27
20%
The fear of not knowing what aoe abilities we will end up having
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9%
The issue of the way it's removal was handled
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17%
The issue does not really bother me.
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18%
Other
6
4%
 
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FuzzyDolly wrote:Wait... WHAT? Druids are losing the tree form??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Everyone calls me treeman in my guild. I like the tree form. I just wish th eleaves changed according to the season... green in summer, red orange in fall, none in winter, and buds in spring. That alone would be cool! What next? Are they getting rid of my moonkin form? I'd be pissed if I lost the Chris Farley dance!
They're not getting rid of it, they're putting it on a long cooldown. It'll be like popping a trinket for extra healing oomph.

As for now, they haven't touched the boomkin form.

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I used volley in ICC all the time. Its a great dps boost and I use MD with it as well so it hits many more targets. Plus... By the time volley is finishing channeling, its available for use again so in raids on trash thats all you usually do unless you have to single target. It was nice to be able to take a break, and maybe it wasn't magic arrows falling from the sky but lightning fast arrows shooting up or one shot that explodes into thousand of arrows? I mean there are those things.. no I can't play games anymore while raiding :lol:

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I'm still very 50/50 on this. Sad volley is going but curious to see what multi shot is going to look like or what the replacements are going to be.

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needs adjusting but not a bad (and funny!) replacement ^_^
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Silvarain wrote:Dont Feed the Animals!
BM 31 talent
65 focus
40 second cooldown

pull out a bag of treats and toss them into a crowd of enemies. local woodland critters come out for the treats attacking the target area causing X nature damage over 6 seconds with 3% chance to cause nature damage over 9 seconds

needs adjusting but not a bad (and funny!) replacement ^_^
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Silvarain wrote:Dont Feed the Animals!
BM 31 talent
65 focus
40 second cooldown

pull out a bag of treats and toss them into a crowd of enemies. local woodland critters come out for the treats attacking the target area causing X nature damage over 6 seconds with 3% chance to cause nature damage over 9 seconds

needs adjusting but not a bad (and funny!) replacement ^_^
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I just had a thought for a PvP utility replacement shot:

Warning Shot
Fires a wild shot in the specified direction. Basically a cone effect, so short range. Does 50% damage, but can hit stealthed targets. Can only hit one; unsure whether this is determined by proximity or what.

The short range means it won't be a viable raiding shot. ^_^

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We still have Explosive Trap, and with Trap Launcher we can toss it into a pack and watch the fun.

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Kalliope wrote:I just had a thought for a PvP utility replacement shot:

Warning Shot
Fires a wild shot in the specified direction. Basically a cone effect, so short range. Does 50% damage, but can hit stealthed targets. Can only hit one; unsure whether this is determined by proximity or what.

The short range means it won't be a viable raiding shot. ^_^
thats seems like a fun "flip of a coin" shot but being able to hit stealthies makes it very nice ^_^ i would try pvp if i had someting like this.
Ellaran wrote:We still have Explosive Trap, and with Trap Launcher we can toss it into a pack and watch the fun.
maybe so, but as it stands now (which may chage) ExpTrap isnt near the damage of volley, at least thats what my tooltip shows me
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Silvarain wrote:
Ellaran wrote:We still have Explosive Trap, and with Trap Launcher we can toss it into a pack and watch the fun.
maybe so, but as it stands now (which may chage) ExpTrap isnt near the damage of volley, at least thats what my tooltip shows me
True, but if they're really boosting multishot the way they've said they will I think ES+MS will be right up there.

I've been thinking about why I don't mind the change and honestly, when we do trash pulls I'm bored. I find myself doing a lot more single-targeting on trash lately just 'cause I get so bored spamming volley.

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I like the beta version of explosive shot. That looked cool.

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AdamSavage wrote:I like the beta version of explosive shot. That looked cool.
I doubt they'd give one tree an additional aoe shot, since they'd still need to balance things around Multi-shot anyway.

At least I hope I'm right on that, because I've been planning on spec'ing back into BM instead of staying Survival in Cata! So many pets not getting their love at the moment due to them being exotic...
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Personally, I've rarely used it, maybe less than a dozen times. It doesn't bother me that much, but what'll replace it? I mean, that's the only AoE spell hunter have that I can think of.
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Found this blue post on MMOchamp(sorry if this was posted in another topic)
New Multi-Shot
Our current version of Multi-Shot has not target cap. It's a little like Fan of Knives
I'm curious as to how this'll work, if they keep with this idea anyway. Is it simply fan of knives, but with a much extended range? (oh please don't let it be this, I have enough problems with my boomkin's starfall pulling extra mobs). Perhaps the AoE is centred on a single target, like Mind Sear, but instant and it does damage to the target as well?

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I'm sad we're losing it. If only because I've always had that spell. Anyone else remember when it had a 10 minute cool-down?

If Blizzard plays their cards right, I won't miss it much. I didn't use it much in BC because of CC, but if we get another Wrath-AoE-spam expansion, I'll be a bit ticked.
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Moonlost wrote:Found this blue post on MMOchamp(sorry if this was posted in another topic)
New Multi-Shot
Our current version of Multi-Shot has not target cap. It's a little like Fan of Knives
I'm curious as to how this'll work, if they keep with this idea anyway. Is it simply fan of knives, but with a much extended range? (oh please don't let it be this, I have enough problems with my boomkin's starfall pulling extra mobs). Perhaps the AoE is centred on a single target, like Mind Sear, but instant and it does damage to the target as well?
My guess is that it's like Multi-Shot is now, only with no target cap.

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Originally Posted by Ghostcrawler
Our current version of Multi-Shot has not target cap. It's a little like Fan of Knives.
Well that at least sounds promising. I'm happy that they're fixing multi-shot to be more of an aoe tool than it cuurently is! xD

(kalliope just beat me to the post. ^^)
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I'm just guessing at this point; it kinda sounded like there was a chance of it being changed further! :o

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I'm cautiously optimistic. And I'm happy that 1) they're improving multishot and 2) they're making it feel more hunter-y. It just doesn't feel right to click a button and a targetting circle to dps, I need to be firin' mah weapon! If I can get a nice aoe rotation with, say, trap launcher, MS, sting-tab-sting, something to that effect, then I'll be insanely happy. :D

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Sarayana wrote:I'm cautiously optimistic. And I'm happy that 1) they're improving multishot and 2) they're making it feel more hunter-y. It just doesn't feel right to click a button and a targetting circle to dps, I need to be firin' mah weapon! If I can get a nice aoe rotation with, say, trap launcher, MS, sting-tab-sting, something to that effect, then I'll be insanely happy. :D
Not to mention it will be a lot more fun!!! I find myself single-targeting even AoE groups more and more lately (unless it's a huge group, of course), just because it's more fun than spamming the same button over and over and over and over and over...........

Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to non-spammy fights!!! :D Even when farming stuff, I find it's a lot faster to just Explosive Shot everything into oblivion than to try to round a bunch of stuff up and Volley from afar. I've tried it both ways before and it actually takes me longer to Volley than it does to pick things off one or two at a time in rapid succession. :)

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