@ hunters who have sambas

[Dekota]

I did this once on my troll hunter with the glow bear. There was a mass of alliance hunters camping the spot all showing off their pets and what not. So I made sure no other horde hunters were around I popped up on the edge of the ledge and send him down to the area, I have never seen so many hunters lay down frost traps in my life. It forced most of them to log out to clear their npc scan and while they did he spawned and my friend got him.

The Hunter side of me would want to throw you off a cliff while the Horde side of me would pat your back with approval. I hate alliance with a passion and I have my reasons.

I couldn't do that to anyone other then the Hunter that killed Aotona while my Mother was taming her after MONTHS of searching for the bird. He ran up to her, killed Aotona, /laugh then left. THEN I would gladly camp him with the tamed version of whatever pet he was looking for.

If only I were on a PvP server -_-

[Sasrei]

Yah.. thats really really mean. When I was looking for Sambas, a few hunters enjoyed having there Sambas out while sitting in the AH.. it was.. pretty frustrating. Now I try really hard to dismiss my Sambas whenever I go out to SW which kinda sucks cause I enjoy having Mathias out..

And YES omgosh seriously.. naming your pet after the rare mob and then going back to that place you tamed it.. is.. really.. mean. Oppossite faction shows as a red dot, so even if you have a macro.. for your npcscanner to go off and then scroll over the name and its like say Sambas or the usual Karoma (so many people call there Karomas.. Karoma.. I dont get it lol) is a mild heart attack. Even if you are spamming your macro...

[Dekota]

Yah.. thats really really mean. When I was looking for Sambas, a few hunters enjoyed having there Sambas out while sitting in the AH.. it was.. pretty frustrating. Now I try really hard to dismiss my Sambas whenever I go out to SW which kinda sucks cause I enjoy having Mathias out..

I don't see anything 'mean' about that. It's their pet and they aren't greifing anyone by standing in their city with it. =/ I have Entei (My Sambas) out with me all the time in cities or out. I didn't spend weeks searching for him just to keep him dismissed all the time. come on now :p I saw another Hunter with Sambas before I tamed mine and while i was searching for him. I whispered her to congrats her on the tame and seeing him as a tamed pet only encouraged me to keep trying.

[Feath3r]

Yah.. thats really really mean. When I was looking for Sambas, a few hunters enjoyed having there Sambas out while sitting in the AH.. it was.. pretty frustrating. Now I try really hard to dismiss my Sambas whenever I go out to SW which kinda sucks cause I enjoy having Mathias out..

I don't see anything 'mean' about that. It's their pet and they aren't greifing anyone by standing in their city with it. =/ I have Entei (My Sambas) out with me all the time in cities or out. I didn't spend weeks searching for him just to keep him dismissed all the time. come on now :p I saw another Hunter with Sambas before I tamed mine and while i was searching for him. I whispered her to congrats her on the tame and seeing him as a tamed pet only encouraged me to keep trying.

I'm going to have to agree with you on that one. When you're in town you risk cacheing every pet anywhere, it's just the risk you take and I won't tell ANY Hunter that their hard earned pet has to be stabled while in town because I don't want to clear my cache before I go hunting. That's just stupid because why in the world would you want to hunt down a pet just to sit it in your stable? Towns are always a risk for that kind of thing, anyone with NPC Scan knows that or should learn it. Same for battlegrounds. I can't tell you the number of times I had to clear my cache because someone had Loque/Krush/Skoll/etc in the battleground I was just in. You know what? It was nice to see someone using the pet and not just grabbing it so they could have a pretty stable collection, that they actually wanted the pet to use and it was always nice to see the pet in action or how big it got or how it looked next to my hunter when I stopped to have a look in town. It saved me hunting down Loque when I ended up not liking the way he looked next to my Undead like I did when he was a Troll.

[erwil]

Aye, I'm agree with Dekota and Feath3r. There's absolutely no reason to think you're acting like an ass by having your favourite pet out in a town. It's good to think about other hunters when out in the wild, but don't beat yourself too much over it.

[Dekota]

I am guilty of standing in the middle of Org and cheering in trade after taming him xD There was no way to measure how happy I was when I tamed him.

[TygerDarkstorm]

I'm sorry but I think this just sounds a bit like entitleism. If someone chooses to give their pet the name it already had, that's their choice. I've done it with a few of my pets because their given names just clicked much better than any other name. If that hunter happens to take that pet to a zone to farm/do dailies/etc. you have no right to judge them and say it's wrong. If that pet has become their absolute favorite pet, no one can force them to put it away just because you're looking for that same rare.

If they're just out there doing dailies and stuff, then they're obviously not trying to grief anyone and I would hate to take away any hunter's enjoyment of a pet just because I wanted the same one. (Now obviously if they have the pet out and are purposely going from spawn point to spawn point, that's griefing and wrong.)

By the way, if you download SilverDragon and use it alongside of NPC_Scan, it will track rares for you even when other hunter pets cache them on NPC_Scan.

[erwil]

I don't think anyone has at any point said nobody should name their pets after the npc they tamed. I personally don't name them like that, but if someone clicks with the name and their pet, that's alright. They're allowed to do whatever and go wherever with their pets they like, but, when the pet is deliberately used to grief others, that's a whole different issue.

[Ziarre]

Having rare pet out in its 'home' zone = okay.
Doing quests/farming near rare pet's spawn points = sucks, but kind of okay.
Deliberately sitting near one or more spawn point, or dropping down to pull it out in front of a camper = not okay.

[TygerDarkstorm]

Yah.. thats really really mean. When I was looking for Sambas, a few hunters enjoyed having there Sambas out while sitting in the AH.. it was.. pretty frustrating. Now I try really hard to dismiss my Sambas whenever I go out to SW which kinda sucks cause I enjoy having Mathias out..

And YES omgosh seriously.. naming your pet after the rare mob and then going back to that place you tamed it.. is.. really.. mean. Oppossite faction shows as a red dot, so even if you have a macro.. for your npcscanner to go off and then scroll over the name and its like say Sambas or the usual Karoma (so many people call there Karomas.. Karoma.. I dont get it lol) is a mild heart attack. Even if you are spamming your macro...

That's basically like saying it's bad to give the pet its given name.

My main point was that you (you being a generalized term here) have no right to judge where and how a person uses their pet unless they are deliberately flying around to all the spawn points with that pet out even after they've been asked to stop. Blizzard won't consider it griefing unless they've been asked to stop and they've been doing it over and over.

And as I said before, you can easily deter this problem by running SilverDragon alongside NPC_Scan as it does not require you to delete your cache for it to pick up rares.

[erwil]

And as I said before, you can easily deter this problem by running SilverDragon alongside NPC_Scan as it does not require you to delete your cache for it to pick up rares.

^_ I have not used SilverDragon that much myself, but I've only heard good things about it from friends.

Also, if you don't trust an addon, you can always add soundscript to your /target macro.

/target Sambas
/script and then the name of the SoundFile.wav you want the game to play.

Example

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/target Sambas
/script PlaySoundFile("Sound\\Creature\\YoggSaron\\UR_FemaleYogg_Special01.wav")

You might want to try to find something more fitting, like, war drums. I just happen to like Yogg-Saron. A lot.
http://www.wowwiki.com/PlaySoundFile_macros_-_Ulduar <- A few Ulduar ones I like to use. :3

[TygerDarkstorm]

SilverDragon was the first rare finding addon I downloaded. I was planning to seriously hunt Loque and I wanted an addon that could help me track rares so after some searching I got SilverDragon and have loved it ever since.

[Dekota]

I've never used anything other then SilverDragon because it simply does what it's suppose to. The only Cache issue I've seen it have is when you reload the cache from in game it will trigger a 'rare warning' when there are no rares in the area. it happened to me once with Loque (ugh it sucked) but that was the only time it happened.

[Novikova]

I did this once on my troll hunter with the glow bear. There was a mass of alliance hunters camping the spot all showing off their pets and what not. So I made sure no other horde hunters were around I popped up on the edge of the ledge and send him down to the area, I have never seen so many hunters lay down frost traps in my life. It forced most of them to log out to clear their npc scan and while they did he spawned and my friend got him.

The Hunter side of me would want to throw you off a cliff while the Horde side of me would pat your back with approval. I hate alliance with a passion and I have my reasons.

I couldn't do that to anyone other then the Hunter that killed Aotona while my Mother was taming her after MONTHS of searching for the bird. He ran up to her, killed Aotona, /laugh then left. THEN I would gladly camp him with the tamed version of whatever pet he was looking for.

If only I were on a PvP server -_-

Wow. that's pretty horrible to outright *hate* a faction and the human beings playing pretendy characters behind it. Especially if it's bad enough to cheer on someone griefing that cost them their chances at a beloved pet. I mean, I don't hate all of horde despite being griefed a few times (Hi, jerkface troll mage who killed my pet midtame, random Tauren who stood flagged on NPCs or things I tried to loot and other various funtimes).

It's sad what happened to your mom though. I've gotten to give away an Aotona or two and people <3 the parrots. Most of the Basin was pretty happy when I grabbed mine because I looked and looked and camped for nearly 6 weeks.

That said, I don't really like it when people name their pets the NPC's original name - but I don't SAY that outright 99% of the time unless someone asks me because hey, it's their pet. I might think it's silly with macros or addons but whatever. Not my pet, not my business. I only report racist and/or MASSIVELY offensive names. And I only get suspicious of people using a rare in the home zone if they 'coincidentally' keep bringing it out near spawn points or running past them all the time (Like a few certain hunters did while I was checking for Krush. UGH. At least he's giant and green and nigh impossible to miss even with me being practically blind).

I suspect a lot of Sambas drama will keep happening as he's an attractive, popular pet and there's more hunters than a NASCAR event the day after rifle permits go out.

[Vetiver]

Having rare pet out in its 'home' zone = okay.
Doing quests/farming near rare pet's spawn points = sucks, but kind of okay.
Deliberately sitting near one or more spawn point, or dropping down to pull it out in front of a camper = not okay.

^this

[Vetiver]

(ps - hour 24 of the sambas camp)

[Krazykitten]

I usually only read this and never submit anything but this struck me. Basically I get the idea that I should never Have my baby Ayaba out, seriously,this is stupid. I don't go "showing off" him as you would say right in spawn areas but he is my main pet...I worked really hard to get him..I'm gonna use him. I'm a 4 and a half year wow hunter veteran, I have many rares, I know all about the pains of getting these pretties. Tell me if I'm wrong,but I get the idea that you guys never want me playing with him,as me playing him would be griefing. Oh it sets off your npc scan,I'm sorry,reset you cache like I do regularly, report me for griefing just because I refuse to dismiss while doing dailies in the Highlands, GL winning that arguement. I understand the pains of this struggle but its part of the game. Blizz gave me this pet to use and enjoy and thats what I'm gonna do, Id feel the same if someone had a pet that I wanted but had trouble finding(can you say Loque?). So please relax about this, and don't crucify us lucky ones for being lucky.

[Novikova]

I usually only read this and never submit anything but this struck me. Basically I get the idea that I should never Have my baby Ayaba out, seriously,this is stupid. I don't go "showing off" him as you would say right in spawn areas but he is my main pet...I worked really hard to get him..I'm gonna use him. I'm a 4 and a half year wow hunter veteran, I have many rares, I know all about the pains of getting these pretties. Tell me if I'm wrong,but I get the idea that you guys never want me playing with him,as me playing him would be griefing. Oh it sets off your npc scan,I'm sorry,reset you cache like I do regularly, report me for griefing just because I refuse to dismiss while doing dailies in the Highlands, GL winning that arguement. I understand the pains of this struggle but its part of the game. Blizz gave me this pet to use and enjoy and thats what I'm gonna do, Id feel the same if someone had a pet that I wanted but had trouble finding(can you say Loque?). So please relax about this, and don't crucify us lucky ones for being lucky.

You happened to be in the right spot at the right time. You got lucky that no one killed him, stole the tame, tagged him and held him for ransom. I have to disagree with your definition of working hard for a pet giving you the right to be thoughtless or rude. No one said you couldn't ever use him. People DO reset their cache and as evidenced by bear boy up there, lose rares over it. Yes, it's obnoxious that NPCscan goes off on pets. And yes you ARE griefing if you knowingly run through spawn points with him. Or at the very least, being incredibly rude and thoughtless. Most of us are fine with people using rares in their home zone - so long as you aren't intentionally doing it to be rude.

You were lucky with the RNG. You don't have to be rude about it, and telling people who are tired and frustrated and being griefed to ' get over it, I got my pet before you neener neener watch me run around with him because I'm AWESOME and you should suffer too in silence because that's part of the game'. That's a horrible attitude to just outright dismiss people's frustrations and concerns. No one is crucifying people with the pet. It's a reasonable complaint. And let's face it, lots of us have had macros and addons set off by some wanker with a tamed rare that names it after the NPC itself. Even more fun if he's pvp flagged. At which point I pull out a pet and mop the floor with him. And I sincerely doubt you don't get a little annoyed when some jackanape sits beside you and pulls out his pet to force you to clear your cache all the time then runs and hides under an excuse.

[Vetiver]

I usually only read this and never submit anything but this struck me. Basically I get the idea that I should never Have my baby Ayaba out, seriously,this is stupid. I don't go "showing off" him as you would say right in spawn areas but he is my main pet...I worked really hard to get him..I'm gonna use him. I'm a 4 and a half year wow hunter veteran, I have many rares, I know all about the pains of getting these pretties. Tell me if I'm wrong,but I get the idea that you guys never want me playing with him,as me playing him would be griefing. Oh it sets off your npc scan,I'm sorry,reset you cache like I do regularly, report me for griefing just because I refuse to dismiss while doing dailies in the Highlands, GL winning that arguement. I understand the pains of this struggle but its part of the game. Blizz gave me this pet to use and enjoy and thats what I'm gonna do, Id feel the same if someone had a pet that I wanted but had trouble finding(can you say Loque?). So please relax about this, and don't crucify us lucky ones for being lucky.

whoa, relax. first of all, you missed the point by a pretty wide margin. secondly, you don't actually "know all about the pains of getting these pretties" if you can't comprehend the frustration that such behavior causes.

it's kind of like rich people who brag about how much money they have in front of people who are struggling. or talking incessantly about your awesome huge family thanksgiving to someone you know who has no family. it's legal and you are well within your rights, but it's tacky and you are putting a burden on other people, so be mindful of that and try to be considerate.

plus there is a huge difference between innocently running around doing your dailies and standing directly on top of a spawn point for long stretches of time with your pet out. not farming, not doing dailies, not being all "golly gosh i am so excited about this pet! what a marvelous day!"...just. standing. there. with. the. specific. intent. of. making. things. hard. for. other. people.

[Novikova]

Yeah, I think my response was a bit more bitey than I like. :3 I'll figure out some way to edit it, but I've found people that will run to and from the spawn points while 'doing dailies'. It's like you said - someone who happens to be rich telling someone who is struggling and genuinely trying to get out of their situation all about their money and how AWESOME it is!

Using the pet is fine. having it out in a capital is fine - I half expect to have to clear my cache after a trip to Dal or SW anyway. It's a bit *rude* to run under people with the rare pet (And if he were a pvp flagged horde, I'd probably deal with the problem personally) - but sometimes people do honestly forget. And that's fine. I love my rare pets too. I haven't settled on a main pet as it were (Though, Aotona is a close one!). Unfortunately, Cata has brought a LOT of ill mannered people out of the wood works it seems given how much pain people have been having with the more popular rares. It's very tragic.