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Re: So I had another hunter yell at me.....

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Worba wrote:That's what I'm working on. Although the dedicated coding wiz hasn't come along, so you're stuck with me for the moment (as addon programmers go, I'm sort of the "Flintlocke"). ;)

Speaking of which, my test version works - too well. I got it to stop sounding the alert unfortunately it's doing that for everything, so valid sightings just go straight to cache without a heads up.

EDIT: I have the 4.2 version of _NPCSCAN, and the preset list doesn't include the 4.2 rares. However it looks like they can be manually added to _NPCScan.TamableIDs.lua; the zone IDs are...

Mount Hyjal - 616
Molten Front - 5733 (there is no world / continent ID listed for MF, at least I wasn't able to find one on wowhead)
I was able to choose Molten Front as an option when I checked (downloaded it for testing!) Anyway, when you are adding rares that are in MF you have to add them inside MF for the option to appear. See Screen shot!

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Re: So I had another hunter yell at me.....

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Yeah, they finally fixed Jadefang to have Deepholm as her actual listing as well I think (at least that's what it looked like when I log in and it says she's cached for there).

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Re: So I had another hunter yell at me.....

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You know, I honestly couldn't care less anymore if I'm setting off someone's scans. Right after I tamed Loque, I went to... I don't even remember where it was, to fly back to Dalaran.

I spent twenty minutes getting killed by angry hordies, who then proceeded to log onto their alli toons and tell me how much of a douche I was for happening to have my brand new pet, who I wanted to have by my side because it was brand new, out while they were camping for it. I politely told them when and where I'd caught him.

So, no. I'm not going to stop using my favourite/newest/prettiest pet because I happen to be in a specific area. When people did it to me I'd complain a little, but just log and clear my cache, even if they were obviously griefing. Other people can suck it up like I did, because if I'm bonding with a pet then I'm bonding with it and you can take your sob party elsewhere.

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Re: So I had another hunter yell at me.....

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Yaone wrote:
Worba wrote:That's what I'm working on. Although the dedicated coding wiz hasn't come along, so you're stuck with me for the moment (as addon programmers go, I'm sort of the "Flintlocke"). ;)

Speaking of which, my test version works - too well. I got it to stop sounding the alert unfortunately it's doing that for everything, so valid sightings just go straight to cache without a heads up.

EDIT: I have the 4.2 version of _NPCSCAN, and the preset list doesn't include the 4.2 rares. However it looks like they can be manually added to _NPCScan.TamableIDs.lua; the zone IDs are...

Mount Hyjal - 616
Molten Front - 5733 (there is no world / continent ID listed for MF, at least I wasn't able to find one on wowhead)
I was able to choose Molten Front as an option when I checked (downloaded it for testing!) Anyway, when you are adding rares that are in MF you have to add them inside MF for the option to appear. See Screen shot!

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That is interesting. I noticed in the listings for Magria et al that their "world" column is blank; did you have to manually add those?
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Re: So I had another hunter yell at me.....

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ya I entered them all manually I just left em blank
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It didn't complain that you didn't select "Molten Front" from the drop box?
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Nope, it didn't at all. I can try again if you like? I didn't enter em all in.

Edit: Just added Anthriss, did not give me any trouble for leaving area blank, nor when I actually added Molten Front.
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k, thanks for checking - so that field is obviously optional.
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Yeah, I left it blank on mine as well (forgot about the drop down menu... D'OH!)
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I used SD way before I ever downloaded _NPCScan, and combining it with target macros and my nameplates running has never let me down. /shrug Most of the rares stand out so much in their respective locations anymore that it's not that hard to find them anyway. I don't think my bf ever clears his _NPCScan cache and he finds a lot more rares than I do on his pally and rehomes them. XD
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It says right on the addon screen that you don't have to have the world field entered for it to go off.

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Awesome.
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Sorry, it's when you mouseover the world section of the addon.
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Thanks..
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Interesting reading the different opinions that spawned from this. It's 1 of 2 opinions for the most part. Do what you want or have some respect.

While I understand the respect part I will continue to use Magria as my pet of choice. I like Magria. I won't sacrifice my happiness for someone else.

I don't run around Molten front getting my spiders or skarr and kirkin out just to grief people. I did happen to take a bunch of screenshots today in molten front with my various pets and got a /scowl from a horde hunter. After I was done I logged over to my horde toon and told them exactly what I was doing. They know me from seeing me around the zone and helping them tame deth a few times. They thought I was just being a prick at first but when I explained myself they were very cool. I actually ended up putting my horde toon in their guild after that and also have that particular hunter on realid now. :)

Now on the subject of the hunter who "yelled" at me. He can piss off. I don't go out of my way to upset people unless provoked. If I see him again you can be damn sure I will pull out every new rare I have. I won't go so far as to kill any rares but I will be glad to pull aggro enough to make it painful for him. If he was polite about it this would be a non-issue. But alas, he was a dick. Sucks to be him anytime I am around.
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Personally Rubiks, I don't care either way, I tend to not hover over mag's spawn point only cause i have no reason to, but meh, that's just me.
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Yaone wrote:Personally Rubiks, I don't care either way, I tend to not hover over mag's spawn point only cause i have no reason to, but meh, that's just me.
Not to many people do. I see hunters around but I think most of em are in molten front. I have everything from there so a good chunk of my time after dailies is spent waiting for Anhka.
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Rubiks-Q-Bert wrote:Interesting reading the different opinions that spawned from this. It's 1 of 2 opinions for the most part. Do what you want or have some respect.

While I understand the respect part I will continue to use Magria as my pet of choice. I like Magria. I won't sacrifice my happiness for someone else.

I don't run around Molten front getting my spiders or skarr and kirkin out just to grief people. I did happen to take a bunch of screenshots today in molten front with my various pets and got a /scowl from a horde hunter. After I was done I logged over to my horde toon and told them exactly what I was doing. They know me from seeing me around the zone and helping them tame deth a few times. They thought I was just being a prick at first but when I explained myself they were very cool. I actually ended up putting my horde toon in their guild after that and also have that particular hunter on realid now. :)

Now on the subject of the hunter who "yelled" at me. He can piss off. I don't go out of my way to upset people unless provoked. If I see him again you can be damn sure I will pull out every new rare I have. I won't go so far as to kill any rares but I will be glad to pull aggro enough to make it painful for him. If he was polite about it this would be a non-issue. But alas, he was a dick. Sucks to be him anytime I am around.
Ya know, I've noticed this over the past few days and it seems like people are getting a little bitter over it. I believe Kalliope said it earlier....It's a quest hub, there is bound to be just as many false positives on NPCscan as you would get just sitting in Org/Stormwind. The only difference is, you get a very startling noise and if you're camping it can be a real downer. I personally would rather see it as a hunter's pet then dead in the middle of the regrowth like I found a poor Ban'th earlier today.

A false positive isn't the end of the world, yeah, it might be considered rude, and I myself can spend time bonding with my new spider in Hyjal and Ban'th in the molten front. I'm just one of those, but I don't see any reason why you can't play the way you'd like to. People all play differently! Some people raid and make sure they have the best pets possible for the job, some people are like me and only raid casually and get other pets that we just like. I at least make sure that I have the main buff pets covered in that rare chance that I do get invited to a raid from time to time for the 10mans, when it comes to 25mans...raids usually tend to have all the buffs covered and I'm free to use a favored pet.

With these new pets...I only put the Hyjal trio in because, I myself was looking for Ban'th, but I was logging in and out every couple hours and doing other things on another toon, he's really, really not that hard to spot and neither are the kitties. I got a false positive on Anhka the other day, but I was happy to see it was the one I managed to keep a mage from killing. As long as you're not griefing, In my opinion, it's kinda a no harm, no foul deal.

As for the hunter who chewed you out. Well, yeah...that was a bit much, but saying you'd now go out of your way to harass him for it is a bit much too. That's just bad Juju, my friend and Karma usually has a way of finding it's way back to the creator. He's probably had one too many sleepless nights hunting, jerkish...maybe so, but it's not a good reason for you to add to the already high tensions. Just do yer thing and let him do his. This patch has just made people explode on one another worse then they should have already. All in all, that's just my two cents. :)

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Thwip wrote:As for the hunter who chewed you out. Well, yeah...that was a bit much, but saying you'd now go out of your way to harass him for it is a bit much too. That's just bad Juju, my friend and Karma usually has a way of finding it's way back to the creator. He's probably had one too many sleepless nights hunting, jerkish...maybe so, but it's not a good reason for you to add to the already high tensions. Just do yer thing and let him do his. This patch has just made people explode on one another worse then they should have already. All in all, that's just my two cents. :)
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I try not to trigger people's scans, but I'm sure it happens sometimes. I made friends with a hunter while I was camping for Sambas, I had Karoma out and was skinning at Sambas' farthest spawn. I had just gotten him and wanted to play with him while I waited. I set off a hunter's scan with Karoma and he whispered me saying he got confused because it was nowhere near any of the wolf's spawn points. We became friends after that and he wasn't mad. I use Hyjal rares in the Molten Front, and Molten Front rares in Hyjal. On my server everyone has the rares out no matter where they go, I see at least 3 different spiders in the MF quest hub each day. If you love your pet, use it. if someone complains that you set the scan off, the choice is up to you to stable her for a different pet for the time being, or just steer clear of the other hunter or spawn points. Hyjal is so large that you can complete any of the quests without setting off people's scanners. There are ways of pleasing both parties, it just depends on if you are willing to be a little more cautious in your activities. Sitting ON a spawn or directly in the path is a bit evil though, like the Banth that was left AFK with the owner on the statue- that's just malicious. Unless it was freshly tamed, there is no reason for it. It is a little tricky, being a quest hub, but it ISN'T tricky to lift your flying mount's butt off the ground to despawn your pet while there. Before ESN Rare broke, it was perfect to add to a target macro. The real deal would ping when targeted (not to mention the dragon that won't appear for a pet) to let you know, yeh you targeted something and it is indeed rare! I do like Silverdragon for the same reason, but it doesn't ping the way ESN used to, which is both good and bad. Before NPCscan came around, I was using a targeting macro that included anything I was looking for- Loque, TLPD, etc. I would always target this Shaman with 'time' in his name and it would drive me insane and confuse me lol. It also picked up a tamed Loque, named, well, Loque. Not the most reliable rare hunting method regarding avoiding heart attacks, but paired up with addons can give the extra help. Sorry that person was nasty with you, this patch is making people crazy, or luring the already nutty ones out. The bad kind of nutty, I mean. All of us rare-hunters are a bit nutty in our own right. :)
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Thwip wrote:As for the hunter who chewed you out. Well, yeah...that was a bit much, but saying you'd now go out of your way to harass him for it is a bit much too. That's just bad Juju, my friend and Karma usually has a way of finding it's way back to the creator. He's probably had one too many sleepless nights hunting, jerkish...maybe so, but it's not a good reason for you to add to the already high tensions. Just do yer thing and let him do his. This patch has just made people explode on one another worse then they should have already. All in all, that's just my two cents. :)
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Well luckily I have yet to see him. I don't search for him. He's an ass. I'm an ass when provoked. Anywho, I have decided to put it past me. I got to much other stuff to do in game than to worry about 1 person. I said my piece to him at the time, I sent him an in game mail at one point. What's done is done. Back to searching for Anhka. :)
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