Lupen202 wrote:Junrei wrote:I really hate that "but no one is forcing you to camp" argument. It's such a slippery slope, imho. Yes, someone is forcing me to camp. Blizzard is because there isn't an alternative. Now if they brought back camps, I'd like it for one condition.....do it like Madexx. Give a rare spawn, but let there be common counterparts somewhere else for those of us who don't wanna camp/can't camp cause we have lives outside of WoW that don't give us that chance to camp. Those who want the rare can go have fun camping for it. Those who don't wanna waste their time or can't camp can still get the pet of their dreams via common counterpart. Win/Win.
But by putting rare spawns in, Blizzard isn't forcing you to camp them. You can
choose whether you camp them or not and for how long. But if you want the reward it's expected of you to put in some effort even if it's realm hopping for a couple minutes everyday. It's not like a rare pet or mount is a necessity, it's a cosmetic reward for people who choose to put in the work to get it. (Or those lucky ones who just stumble upon it) Not everything in the game needs to be available to everyone nor easy to get...
I cannot say that I agree-there is no effort involved in sitting around waiting for a rare spawn, aside from maybe constantly popping traps trying to get it before another camper does. The only real effort involved is being more stubborn than the other people who come along and being willing to sit around for long stretches of time. That is not effort, that is sitting at a screen and waiting. Yes it was exhilerating when you finally got the pet-I can remember feeling my pulse beating in my neck a number of times after I finally got Loque, Krush and others. But it was also crushing when you just missed the spawn or some jerk came along and killed it mid tame.
I've hunted down and tamed Loque on ALL of my hunters-and my first one? Took me over seven months to finally get him. I was thrilled to have him and do love him-but I also hated the game for making me sit/fly around looking for him constantly. And yes-it was something that I wanted to have, so I did feel that I was made to camp for him because he was a achievement kill an top of everything else. Thankfully newer rares do not have the achievements tied to them.
My spirit beast bear is named Insomnia-because I would camp him for hours and then give up and try to go to bed, only to wake up moments after drifting off, certain he would have spawned while I was gone and then logging back in to camp some more. It was ridiculous and frustrating-especially to log in or come back after taking a bathroom break, to find someone taming the rare that popped while I was AFK. There is no skill involved in something like that, just luck and patience. Besides, I'm getting old, I do not have the time or ability to stay up all night long for a pet these days, no thank you sir.
I loved the storyline with Garra and the tracking tames. Gave us so much more immersion in the game and made it actually feel like it involved skill rather than just luck of the RNG sitting around waiting for a spawn. And there was none of the players who would come along and kill the mob just because they could and wanted to for whatever twisted reason they came up with.
TL;DR: I really hope Bliz keeps in line with what they have been doing lately and hope they do not go back to just random rare spawns.
Lupen202 wrote:And there would be no point camping a rare if there's a common counterpart. If two pets share the look, everyone would just tame the common one? It doesn't make much sense to put in the time and effort to camp something if there's an easier alternative.
I do agree with that-though only if you are saying that the rare is the same look and coloration? If it is the same basic look but a different color-some people can go for the basic if they want it, but there are always going to be those who go after the rare, if only for bragging rights/prestige, or because they like that coloration.
IE when the cranes and quilen came out-I went and hunted down and tamed the pink crane as soon as I was able because I liked the color of it. I didn't bother with the rare quilen as much because I preferred the more natural colors.