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cowmuflage wrote:Bowno if this person has a thread I'd recommend posting in it WARNING people about this person! It's quite frankly down right bad business what they did and you should warn people about how they do things. Do not worry about "hurting their feelings" or some other crap, they said they'd do something and they took money for it and they did not put out.

If they get their feelings hurt tough shit they should of thought about that before they said yes.

EDIT: Sorry if that came off as rude but you don't fuck around when it comes to money.
Yes. This. I know it can be hard to express your feelings about this without sounding down right rude but you PAID THEM to do this. A lot, by the sounds of things. I would be very unhappy. You paid them to do something for you and they did not complete that. You have to be frank with them I'm afraid - don't say thank you to them anyway and let them think that doing this is okay because, who knows, they might think that it's not a big deal and do this again to someone else. Commissions are very serious, very real things that you cannot fuck around with.

Bowno, if you need advice or someone to rant to more about this, PM me. Or if you simply want to know how to word something to them. I'm very curious to see how this goes, really.

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We got to right about something that annoyed us in English a day or so ago. So I went with Facebook. I shall not copy the entire thing over. However, I DO NOT CARE if your boyfriend broke up with you if I hold no relation to you. Sure, if it was someone on here I'd care. Because I can relate to you guys. We hold the same interests. We all love pets. We all play Warcraft. It's a community. Facebook is no community! It's a place of horror. Selfies, status arguments, depressing love stories and random pictures of people's dinner! Half the people I read of having broken up with someone, fallen out with someone else I didn't knew existed! One girl randomly popped up with an entire essay in her love for someone being feigned and I had to grab several ropes and tools so I could climb this Great Wall of China for text. That won't be offensive saying that would it? The Great Wall of China for text? I wouldn't think so :?

Also, I've got the summer hols in a few days. And the homework I'm being given is scary! in these holidays I'm supposed to relax and take a break from school. That's the whole reason it's called Summer break, summer holidays. Not Summer 'drown in homework mwahahaha' holidays. Just let me play on Warcraft please! This is normally the time I get so into WoW the need to eat actually goes. I think I've trained my body to do that :mrgreen: it's only gonna get worse. I can smell Draenor coming in! I think I'm far too obsessed with Draenor actually. It'd not healthy

I agree with you Snowy and Cowmuflage. If it's money that's involved Bowno, you have a right to get the job you paid for done correctly. If it's not up to what you wanted, then at least get them to do it properly. If they aren't willing to do it to your standard, that's their problem if they lose what you gave them. They didn't hold their side of the deal, by the sounds of things.
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Thanks guys. I sent them a rather blunt letter that told them exactly how I felt and basically said "I either want this finished or a refund"
They replied that they were unprofessional and that they're sorry. They will try to finish it this week or do anything in their power to refund me.

I sent a message to Undle as well (before I messaged them) with everything asking if there can be anything done. Haven't heard back from her yet x.x

This is just so out of my comfort zone.

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Bowno wrote:Thanks guys. I sent them a rather blunt letter that told them exactly how I felt and basically said "I either want this finished or a refund"
They replied that they were unprofessional and that they're sorry. They will try to finish it this week or do anything in their power to refund me.

I sent a message to Undle as well (before I messaged them) with everything asking if there can be anything done. Haven't heard back from her yet x.x

This is just so out of my comfort zone.
Don't worry, it's not a place anyone ever wants to be. I'm glad they're getting their act together though. :hug:

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Bowno wrote:Thanks guys. I sent them a rather blunt letter that told them exactly how I felt and basically said "I either want this finished or a refund"
They replied that they were unprofessional and that they're sorry. They will try to finish it this week or do anything in their power to refund me.

I sent a message to Undle as well (before I messaged them) with everything asking if there can be anything done. Haven't heard back from her yet x.x

This is just so out of my comfort zone.
Confrontations are never easy and are usually out of most peoples comfort zone. Just sometimes you gotta know when to put the foot down and just do it.

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I don't really think Undel can or will do anything, especially considering it seems like the situation is mostly resolved. I mean, the artist is offering to either try and get you a finished product or if not possible a full refund? That's really nice considering they're not getting payment for a nearly finished product.

/shrugs
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Guys, I know it's not a good situation either way, but recognize too that the artist has spent a long, long time on that commission already. And they're likely not going to be payed at all- meaning that they've spent hours working for nothing.

No, it's not an excuse, but I think they're probably pretty frustrated too. And they're offering a full refund. That's more than you can ask from a lot of people. You're getting a product, admittedly not an ideal one, and they're getting nothing but wasted time. Should you pay them full? No! You're not getting the product you asked for. ...But PMing Undel and making a big deal out of this is going a little too far.

Remember that the artist is a person too. I've gotten called out on commissions I didn't finish. Did I deserve it? Hell yes! I should have finished the commission. And I offered a way to finish it in a different way, and all smoothed over well, but that doesn't mean I wasn't just about crying because I felt so shitty about it.

I'm not trying to villainize anyone, and I'm sorry if I sound like I am. It's just- a problem that strikes close to home.

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Next time I'd suggest asking if you can pay half at the start and half at the end. So that if something gos wrong you have not lost all your money.

Feelings will get hurt over this kind of stuff but that happens.
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cowmuflage wrote:Next time I'd suggest asking if you can pay half at the start and half at the end. So that if something gos wrong you have not lost all your money.

Feelings will get hurt over this kind of stuff but that happens.
Oooh, that's a good idea. I hadn't thought of that.

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LupisDarkmoon wrote:
cowmuflage wrote:Next time I'd suggest asking if you can pay half at the start and half at the end. So that if something gos wrong you have not lost all your money.

Feelings will get hurt over this kind of stuff but that happens.
Oooh, that's a good idea. I hadn't thought of that.

Listen to Cow, she does this stuff for a living.
Yup! A lot of the people I've done work for like to pay that way. It makes me feel safer too I guess? I don't worry as much if the person is going to take my work and run.
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Right. I had messaged Undel BEFORE I messaged the person back and got a reply from them. If it had been the other way around, I wouldn't have tossed Undel a message because they turned around and said they'd continue to try or give a refund.
I asked my friends my family and people on another site for advice and they all told me to message an admin first. They saw the entire log I showed you guys as well so they weren't missing any of the story.
In my panicked state, I did as they said. I made sure to even mention in my letter I was not trying to start drama or cause any trouble. I was asking Undel if anything could be done in the situation. Again, I had messaged Undel first. Had I known the reply I would get from the person I wouldn't have.
Undel can go through my messages and see the entire thing, including the new messages.

From the first mail that I got from this person saying they could not refund me because they already spent everything, it came across to me that they were just going LOLTOUGHSHIT, which was why I mailed the admin in the first place. I wasn't trying to start anything. I was a crying mess in real life doing what twenty or so people on the internet were telling me to do because I wasn't thinking straight.

As for payment, that's kinda what we were doing, except we broke it into three payments. I payed one third at the start, another third in the middle and I was going to pay the final part once it was done.

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Not really a rant but I was talking about someone who is afraid to fly to a family member and some of my comments seem abit eerie now...

"you are more likely to be hit by a bus crossing the road than you are to die in a plane crash"
*A women got run over by a bus this week on Wellington St*

"Planes don't just drop out of the sky for no reason - they are kinda designed not to"
*MH17 shot down by militants over the Ukraine*

Think i'll shut up now :?

(Also I'm very sorry if anyone here knew anyone onboard that plane - so horrible)

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I don't want to go hungry. Please to be processing my aid faster, thankyou.
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I saw a blog post today that said "not all Bi women are attracted to men" uh correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't that mean they are not bi? :/
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cowmuflage wrote:I saw a blog post today that said "not all Bi women are attracted to men" uh correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't that mean they are not bi? :/
Nope- the definition of bi is technically "Attracted to the same and other", which means their gender + other genders... But not, by definition, same gender and male. So they might be attracted to females, agender, bigender, etc but not cisgendered men.

As far as I know, that's the difference between Bisexual and Pansexual. Pan = attracted to every gender, Bi = attracted to the same gender and some others but not necessarily all.

...Or that's how it is if my reading is correct. x.x

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LupisDarkmoon wrote:
cowmuflage wrote:I saw a blog post today that said "not all Bi women are attracted to men" uh correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't that mean they are not bi? :/
Nope- the definition of bi is technically "Attracted to the same and other", which means their gender + other genders... But not, by definition, same gender and male. So they might be attracted to females, agender, bigender, etc but not cisgendered men.

As far as I know, that's the difference between Bisexual and Pansexual. Pan = attracted to every gender, Bi = attracted to the same gender and some others but not necessarily all.

...Or that's how it is if my reading is correct. x.x
All I can find on it and all that I get told is "Bisexuality is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior toward both males and females" Now I'm just plan old confused >.>

I wish people would stop bloody changing definitions on things and keep it as one thing. It's seriously why a lot of the time I just don't bother caring because I get told it's something else like a month later >.>

That's not aimed at you of course! Just you no I'm just confused easily XD
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This weather sucks balls. I'm freezing my bum off here >.> I guess it would be worse if it was snowing. I hear snow sucks poop.
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I decided to get up my gear yesterday. PvP. I used to like it. I don't mind the alliance winning once in a while. What I do mind (please excuse me here) was the bloody Russian team I was against yesterday! This is stereotypical, so do excuse, but every Russian team I'm against completely sweep the floor. Every. Bloody. Time.

So, I went in and tried my hardest. I died, surprise surprise. I go to the graveyard and I see people who just got rezzed drop dead. Confused, now seeing people getting pissy in the chat, I rezzed.

And I died.

Yes. The Russians weren't worried about getting to the boss. They were camping us at the graveyard. They'd even take insignias so you could only be rezzed at the graveyard. They were aoe'ing us down as we rezzed. The whole team. We were surrounded by 40 Russians, the whole lot of them, who seemed to think this is fair. No. No it's not. They thought it was fun. No. No it wasn't. They were trying to win AV the hard way. Kill 500 horde. They were farming us for honour. So someone said 'Rez at a different Graveyard'. It didn't work. They figured out and ran to that graveyard and killed us there. So after swapping between graveyards ten times, we rezzed on our side of AV. Took the game long enough.

Of course, the Russians won. But only be side of their unfair way of playing. No, I'm not QQ'ing. Well. Maybe I am. But I have reason! This is ridiculous! We need that buff where if you're closet or the graveyard you can't get hit. Like in TB. People couldn't kill you or even hit you. Why is is this so hard to implement into other BG's, to stop this?

I don't care about people moaning about the horde always losing. I just tell them to stop typing and start hitting buttons instead, if they think the others aren't putting in enough effort. I do care about this!

*takes a deep breath* I'm good :D
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cowmuflage wrote:This weather sucks balls. I'm freezing my bum off here >.> I guess it would be worse if it was snowing. I hear snow sucks poop.
I'll swap. Have this god damn sunshine of mine! I'm melting away! The fans do nothing!
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Aaaaaand exhibit A of why I don't like pvp :lol: I think I fishflopped my way through grinding for the three war mounts I have, and even then it was horrible.

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