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I don't have too much to add, but I wanted to post that going to http://wod.wowhead.com/latest-additions provides a more detailed breakdown of what items get added on which days, as well as the "Added in Build" filter on item/spell pages, so you can just cut to "everything added on the day of Shadowberries" etc. There's also a filter letting you specify an ID range.

Read about the spell ID work a few days ago, that was pretty clever. I don't have a hunter so I might be clumsy thinking of stuff, but if people have questions about searching or the data I'd be happy to help. A few people have been pinging me on Twitter about this so thought I'd post here.
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I wouldn't focus too much on Ashes of A'kumbo. It was added in a build prior to the effigy items and lantern making it unlikely to be involved later in the chain than those.
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I used the ashes yesterday at the place I found them at, and nothing happened. I guess they could be involved, but I don't know. In either case we still have to run around with no clue what we're doing just to find a place that might've changed since using the ashes (Or they did nothing.)

There's an item in FFR that's similar after all. Ancient frostwolf petroglyph or something? When clicked on it does exactly the same thing as the ashes - you light up as if you've learned something - but nothing happens.

And what useless said :P

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Considering Ashes can only be obtained once and Muffinus said everything needed for Gara is in working order, no bugs, then that the "one time use only obtainable once" is intended, and would mean the Ashes would have to be used in the exact correct spot in order to trigger the next step. If a hunter uses them in the wrong spot, or hell even misclicks, then that hunter is forever screwed out of taming Gara. Just seems to rule it out to me. Sucks though because the Ashes seemed really promising :(
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Nothing really stood out to me on Perculia's list other than a spot in Nagrand with some new Spirit mobs added in, gonna check that out, if nothing there then I'm gonna go out and say we should bug Muffin until he helps us :lol:


Edit: Oh hey look what I found. I thought this was pretty interesting, not related to the quest though sadly.

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perculia wrote:I don't have too much to add, but I wanted to post that going to http://wod.wowhead.com/latest-additions provides a more detailed breakdown of what items get added on which days, as well as the "Added in Build" filter on item/spell pages, so you can just cut to "everything added on the day of Shadowberries" etc. There's also a filter letting you specify an ID range.

Read about the spell ID work a few days ago, that was pretty clever. I don't have a hunter so I might be clumsy thinking of stuff, but if people have questions about searching or the data I'd be happy to help. A few people have been pinging me on Twitter about this so thought I'd post here.
Thanks Perculia! Any help and time spent on this with us is greatly appreciated. Know you are a pretty busy gal. much respect and admiration! /salute

now off to watch some football for a few :D
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Theres actually a thread about that TLPD being in Draenor. Thats a mystery I would love to figure out once Gara gets figured out. Got me all like WTF lol
perculia wrote:I don't have too much to add, but I wanted to post that going to http://wod.wowhead.com/latest-additions provides a more detailed breakdown of what items get added on which days, as well as the "Added in Build" filter on item/spell pages, so you can just cut to "everything added on the day of Shadowberries" etc. There's also a filter letting you specify an ID range.

Read about the spell ID work a few days ago, that was pretty clever. I don't have a hunter so I might be clumsy thinking of stuff, but if people have questions about searching or the data I'd be happy to help. A few people have been pinging me on Twitter about this so thought I'd post here.
Thanks for the info!

I do wonder though, when Gara was being designed, did they really desire that players sift through that kind of data in order to find clues? I mean those databases have been the source of all of our breakthroughs. I can't help but wonder if thats how they wanted us to figure this out. Of course, I don't know how else we would have. We all know theres nothing in game that would point us in the right direction. Just all feels odd to me, not adding up. Oh well, back to sifting :)
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perculia wrote:I don't have too much to add, but I wanted to post that going to http://wod.wowhead.com/latest-additions provides a more detailed breakdown of what items get added on which days, as well as the "Added in Build" filter on item/spell pages, so you can just cut to "everything added on the day of Shadowberries" etc. There's also a filter letting you specify an ID range.

Read about the spell ID work a few days ago, that was pretty clever. I don't have a hunter so I might be clumsy thinking of stuff, but if people have questions about searching or the data I'd be happy to help. A few people have been pinging me on Twitter about this so thought I'd post here.
Thanks again for the list, noticed some more things that stood out.

There were many different "Ritualist" mobs added in 6.0.2, I know that many of these are in the cave under Pillars of Fate between Spires and SMV, should check that out.

There is one that I noticed that I don't think I have seen before though, and that would be the "Soothsayer Ritualist" one, any info on that?

Edit: http://wod.wowhead.com/npc=88880 This one
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Used the Ashes of A'kumbo inside Shadowmoon Burial Grounds, camo'd past the first patrol and stood amongst the spirits/ghosts. Nothing happened -- at all, it was as if I did nothing at all. So. Yeah.

This is getting ridiculous.
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I beginning to think this is all a ruse by Blizzard to have us run around and test ALL THE THINGS :P

Looking at the list of added items, I'm also thinking that lantern is that the last item to acquire or at least that there wasn't another item the build that added the other question items we need.

Like others have mentioned, I wonder what the significance is of the 60 minute Lantern buff duration. Why not 5, 10, or 30 min?

I'm thinking somewhere there's an entrance into the void realm, and the lantern buff allows us to see it, and enter it. It's just a matter of finding out where it's hidden.
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Darkbrew wrote:I'm thinking somewhere there's an entrance into the void realm, and the lantern buff allows us to see it, and enter it. It's just a matter of finding out where it's hidden.
Got to be, something we interact with that triggers the spells that suck us into the void. The lantern item itself says "Allows you to see into the void realm" and the buff has us partially phased. Its gotta be something only visible with the buff, but without it is gone.
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I was thinking in a similar way yesterday.. Maybe there is a voidwalker or other npc that roams around SMV (or in any zone) that we have to find and kill, that you can only see with the buff active. There could be one or multiple but... you would have thought one of us would've found one by now if this was the case. Same with a portal. So many people have been running around literally every place thinkable. With the buff and without.

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I'm going to old Outland to the portal in Blade's Edge Mountain and the other inactive ones. I'm kinda angry at this point and feel like this is a huge waste of time but since we're just forced to throw darts at this point, I'm throwing em!
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I've already looked around the old SMV but none of the other zones. Doubt there's anything in the old zones (How the hell would we be expected to think of going to old zones unless we exhausted every other idea like we have now?) but guess it doesn't hurt.

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jensketch wrote:I'm going to old Outland to the portal in Blade's Edge Mountain and the other inactive ones. I'm kinda angry at this point and feel like this is a huge waste of time but since we're just forced to throw darts at this point, I'm throwing em!
I had to quit. I've went through some database stuff, but I had to take a break. Without something to go on, I have a feeling more and more people are going to fizzle out and lose interest in searching due to frustration and no direction.
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Has anyone messed around with the shadow council mobs with the lantern buff active?
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I went to some warlock trainers with and without lantern buff. I thought, we need to get to the void, who's better to ask than warlocks? But nada

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I'm just reading this thread and waiting for Muffinus to finally say something while leveling an alt on live... No point running around Draenor when I already did that enough this week. Ran around looking for stuff before we found the effigy and now I feel like we're almost back at square one.. we've made progress but..? We're just stuck again. Was fun the first time, now not so much.

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Quivering wrote:
jensketch wrote:I'm going to old Outland to the portal in Blade's Edge Mountain and the other inactive ones. I'm kinda angry at this point and feel like this is a huge waste of time but since we're just forced to throw darts at this point, I'm throwing em!
I had to quit. I've went through some database stuff, but I had to take a break. Without something to go on, I have a feeling more and more people are going to fizzle out and lose interest in searching due to frustration and no direction.
Honestly, this is the same way I'm feeling at this point. Whatever we're missing is either in a dungeon or raid or out of Draenor or even unaccessable, because we as a community have combed over Draenor enough times to say that something is wrong. We need a hint or something, its like Blizzard wants hunters to run around like chickens with their heads cut off to keep us busy. I don't know any more.
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Zgar wrote:
Quivering wrote:
jensketch wrote:I'm going to old Outland to the portal in Blade's Edge Mountain and the other inactive ones. I'm kinda angry at this point and feel like this is a huge waste of time but since we're just forced to throw darts at this point, I'm throwing em!
I had to quit. I've went through some database stuff, but I had to take a break. Without something to go on, I have a feeling more and more people are going to fizzle out and lose interest in searching due to frustration and no direction.
Honestly, this is the same way I'm feeling at this point. Whatever we're missing is either in a dungeon or raid or out of Draenor or even unaccessable, because we as a community have combed over Draenor enough times to say that something is wrong. We need a hint or something, its like Blizzard wants hunters to run around like chickens with their heads cut off to keep us busy. I don't know any more.
exactly that's why my feeling is getting stronger that the last part of the chain starts somewhere in tanaan. >_>
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