Flying in WoW Discussion

[AdamSavage]

He basically just rambles on and and on about how they don't want flying, yet the reasons they give are invalid. You have several different things that allow you to glide, or actually fly and this allows you to bypass quite the number of mobs. If your good with the glider, you can glide yourself on top of the exact position you need to be. My priest has levitate and with some skill can get you want to be, vs floating past it. Useful in nagrand where you have lots of high places.

I still think the sole reason for not flying is a very weak excuse. You spend 20 -30 minutes tops doing the garrison daily.. Why not just make those zone flight free ? No flying is nothing more then a poor attempt to slow the progression down. We have done max level dailies before, with flying. That didn't really speed things up. Saved you a minute or so getting there and back. That's basically it.

I could be wrong about this, but it sounds like they want to do away with flying mounts in all future content. Not just this expansion. I'm going to give this expansion till 6.1, and see how that is. Then decide if I want to keep playing the expansion. If it turns out they want to remove flying all together, I will not play anymore.

[Lisaara]

Only thing I gotta say.....just because you don't agree with someones reasoning....doesn't make the reasoning invalid. There's a difference between validity and just not agreeing with someone. ^^; I think you're mistaken them for being one and the same. To me, the reasons make sense for the most part. Also...gliding and flying are not the same thing. Flying is constant. Gliding is not. Example: Eagles can fly. Sugar Gliders cannot. They glide temporarily.

Anyway, if I find more info and updates, I'll post em.

[AdamSavage]

Well you can actually fly, with the rocket. However, it's slow and it only last 60 seconds. It's better then nothing though.. I'm not sure what you would call the rockets ? Flying, even in real world is limited by how much fuel the aircraft has to some degree. So even that is not constant. Unless you mean that in another way ? I really hope they come out with flying, but it really doesn't look good. It's supposed to be a short expansion with only two tiers. I can't recall where I heard that.. I could very well be wrong.

LFR is a complete Joke.. I couldn't believe how simple it was. I don't mind it being that simple, but they could make it little more complicated. I did the first wing in 15 minutes or so. Got loot and left. I've also gotten 645 gear twice from missions in my garrison. I just wish the random secondary stat, would be less random.. Hunters don't need bonus armor on a ring! I had to re-roll the spec 3x before I got multistrike.

[Lisaara]

Well....hate to tell ya but the poll hosted in mmo champion seems to show majority players don't mind not being able to fly. I'm amongst those that don't mind it either. I was speaking of flying via animal...which majority of our mounts are animals of sorts. And yes, this isn't gonna be a big expansion.

The topic is really about the LFR so....that's a bit irrelevant, especially since you've only done three bosses. The rest hasn't been released yet. LFR isn't meant to be hard either, ontop of that. It's just there to give slightly better loot and show you the raid. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Back on topic, if anything new is found, I'll link it.

[AdamSavage]

Well....hate to tell ya but the poll hosted in mmo champion seems to show majority players don't mind not being able to fly. I'm amongst those that don't mind it either. I was speaking of flying via animal...which majority of our mounts are animals of sorts. And yes, this isn't gonna be a big expansion.

The topic is really about the LFR so....that's a bit irrelevant, especially since you've only done three bosses. The rest hasn't been released yet. LFR isn't meant to be hard either, ontop of that. It's just there to give slightly better loot and show you the raid. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Then they can their stupid ground mounts, and enjoy driving around everywhere. I'm going to try to make it to 6.1 and see from there..I would like to know if they plan to get rid of flying all together though. Unless this is going to be the opposite of cata, where it was around flying everywhere all the time. Minus the daily zone hub they had.

[Danielfboone]

Well....hate to tell ya but the poll hosted in mmo champion seems to show majority players don't mind not being able to fly. I'm amongst those that don't mind it either. I was speaking of flying via animal...which majority of our mounts are animals of sorts. And yes, this isn't gonna be a big expansion.

The topic is really about the LFR so....that's a bit irrelevant, especially since you've only done three bosses. The rest hasn't been released yet. LFR isn't meant to be hard either, ontop of that. It's just there to give slightly better loot and show you the raid. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Back on topic, if anything new is found, I'll link it.

The poll at mmo-champion is irrelevant. It only reflects the views of the ones who bother to go in their forums and is a small minority of the player base as a whole. The only rrelevant poll would be one put out by Blizzard themselves and presented in the game or launcher itself. Nothing on Twitter, Facebook, or even the WoW forums themselves would be representative of the entire player base.

[AdamSavage]

It seems to be a split based on who you talk to, but even then.. It's such a small sample of players. People might even change their mind, later in the expansion.

[Danielfboone]

Well you can actually fly, with the rocket. However, it's slow and it only last 60 seconds. It's better then nothing though.. I'm not sure what you would call the rockets ? Flying, even in real world is limited by how much fuel the aircraft has to some degree. So even that is not constant. Unless you mean that in another way ? I really hope they come out with flying, but it really doesn't look good. It's supposed to be a short expansion with only two tiers. I can't recall where I heard that.. I could very well be wrong.

LFR is a complete Joke.. I couldn't believe how simple it was. I don't mind it being that simple, but they could make it little more complicated. I did the first wing in 15 minutes or so. Got loot and left. I've also gotten 645 gear twice from missions in my garrison. I just wish the random secondary stat, would be less random.. Hunters don't need bonus armor on a ring! I had to re-roll the spec 3x before I got multistrike.

I have to agree. For the first time since LFR was introduced, even I would say it's too easy. The difference between it and normal is the biggest ever.

[cowmuflage]

Well....hate to tell ya but the poll hosted in mmo champion seems to show majority players don't mind not being able to fly. I'm amongst those that don't mind it either. I was speaking of flying via animal...which majority of our mounts are animals of sorts. And yes, this isn't gonna be a big expansion.

The topic is really about the LFR so....that's a bit irrelevant, especially since you've only done three bosses. The rest hasn't been released yet. LFR isn't meant to be hard either, ontop of that. It's just there to give slightly better loot and show you the raid. That's it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Back on topic, if anything new is found, I'll link it.

The poll at mmo-champion is irrelevant. It only reflects the views of the ones who bother to go in their forums and is a small minority of the player base as a whole. The only rrelevant poll would be one put out by Blizzard themselves and presented in the game or launcher itself. Nothing on Twitter, Facebook, or even the WoW forums themselves would be representative of the entire player base.

True a blizzard made poll would be the only way to go really.

Also why are talking about LFR? What's that got to do with flying? Why not make another thread for that then?

[Danielfboone]

It seems to be a split based on who you talk to, but even then.. It's such a small sample of players. People might even change their mind, later in the expansion.

I actually have no doubt that if the entire player base was actually polled, wanting flying would win by at least a 60-40 margin

[Danielfboone]

I mention LFR only because it was already brought up and commented on by others. For example, in the post I quoted.

[cowmuflage]

I mention LFR only because it was already brought up and commented on by others. For example, in the post I quoted.

Oh I know that. Was more to do with the fact that it kind of came out of no where and has like nothing to do with flying (the talk about LFR that is) XD

[AdamSavage]

Not directly related to flying. So I'm going to go off topic abit.

I've started to notice quite the drop off friends that come online and stay online. I see a peak around 6-7pm EST and then it drops right off.. For a expansion that is only 1 month old today.. This isn't a good sign. I know you see a drop off, but never this early or this much.

I know a few of my friends are pissed off that we can't fly. I don't blame them either.. You don't give something to someone, then take it away with really stupid reasons. Being able to fly while doing the sole daily you have to do, each day isn't going to effect how long you take to do it. You don't really use a mount while doing the questing, you walk mostly as you spend most of the time killing or collecting stuff. It's a weak and stupid reason.

EDIT: Why can't they just allow flying, and those who want to fly can do so. Those who enjoy the ground mount, they can keep doing so. Everybody wins!

[AdamSavage]

Also why are talking about LFR? What's that got to do with flying? Why not make another thread for that then?

Didn't want to make a new thread, just to quickly talk about LFR. I veered off topic abit, but came back to the original topic.

[Danielfboone]

In my opinion, not having flying makes having the stable in your garrison pretty much mandatory. The 20% speed boost plus the immunity to being stunned somewhat alleviates the inconvenience of being grounded. It's still not enough though.

[Krysteena]

*slowly realises this thread is still going*

[Wain]

Opinions vary so widely on this topic. Please be respectful, but also please try to avoid giving the exact same arguments many times over. I'd like to leave this thread open as a place to vent for those who want to, even though I don't see anything really new being added (that is also on-topic).

[AdamSavage]

If I could get the sky terror things daily, and combined with the feather. That would ease the desire to fly enough, as they are pretty fun to use.

[Castile]

Not directly related to flying. So I'm going to go off topic abit.

I've started to notice quite the drop off friends that come online and stay online. I see a peak around 6-7pm EST and then it drops right off.. For a expansion that is only 1 month old today.. This isn't a good sign. I know you see a drop off, but never this early or this much.

I know a few of my friends are pissed off that we can't fly. I don't blame them either.. You don't give something to someone, then take it away with really stupid reasons. Being able to fly while doing the sole daily you have to do, each day isn't going to effect how long you take to do it. You don't really use a mount while doing the questing, you walk mostly as you spend most of the time killing or collecting stuff. It's a weak and stupid reason.

EDIT: Why can't they just allow flying, and those who want to fly can do so. Those who enjoy the ground mount, they can keep doing so. Everybody wins!

I think the drop off is more indictive to the time of year not the expansion or its appeal. It's summer over here and people want to go outside more often and do things after work while it's still light for longer. In the North I would assume people are busy on the run up to christmas and busy seeing family/friends. Christmas parties and what not.

I miss my flying mounts too but I think you need to chill out abit. I'm sure it will come back in due time. Theres more expansion to come..Tanaan Jungle is still out there. I think thats the reason we haven't seen flying yet.

[AdamSavage]