Why should SV / MM hunters get Exotic Beast families?

[Saturo]

You guys might hate me for this, but I've named my Chimera-shot button Bernie. Long story.
I like Bernie more than any pet...

Laughed hard, you are joking, right?

No...

[Shandorei]

You guys might hate me for this, but I've named my Chimera-shot button Bernie. Long story.
I like Bernie more than any pet...

Laughed hard, you are joking, right?

No...

Hahah, awesome Bernie is a hilarious name :p Too bad nobody gets to see it ingame

[Aquillian]

Hehe, doesn't matter when it creates discussions, I like them, specially when you get a little more along going towards a possible agreement or conclusion.

Anyway, is that you'd love to play in SV/MM with a exotic pet? This is my opinion: Even if I could have exotics in SV / MM I would still not go in it for that, BM is my playstyle because I like to help my pet, rather than it helping me. You wouldn't had nearly as good pets in SV / MM anyway if you had exotics on them, so there wouldn't really be any point having exotics for them other than the skins :s And the skins is what makes BM, so you would take something big from BM there.. Ahh I suck at explaining this Hope you get the point

Yar that's what I was getting at =) I do like my exotics for the skins. I get what you mean, and that's a fair point :3 I like discussions too, lots of things I hadn't considered before.

[Razzy]

I'm a MM and I love my pets. I even went BM for a day, but starving fog machine kitty and dinosaurs that shrink far from a believable size couldn't compensate for my shots.

I love my wolf to death, though. Even when I abandoned him for a newer model, I got rid of the model and went out looking for Snarler again.

[Shandorei]

Hehe, doesn't matter when it creates discussions, I like them, specially when you get a little more along going towards a possible agreement or conclusion.

Anyway, is that you'd love to play in SV/MM with a exotic pet? This is my opinion: Even if I could have exotics in SV / MM I would still not go in it for that, BM is my playstyle because I like to help my pet, rather than it helping me. You wouldn't had nearly as good pets in SV / MM anyway if you had exotics on them, so there wouldn't really be any point having exotics for them other than the skins :s And the skins is what makes BM, so you would take something big from BM there.. Ahh I suck at explaining this Hope you get the point

Yar that's what I was getting at =) I do like my exotics for the skins. I get what you mean, and that's a fair point :3 I like discussions too, lots of things I hadn't considered before.

Ahh yeah I see, hopefully blizzard would rather add more rares, from both normal and exotic family so all three specs can get something unique^^ There is some atm, but not updated, the only real updated pet models are the exotics which BM gets.. Also I would so much hope blizzard could end the "BRING WOLF OR DIEEE" thing in raids, would add even more to the MM / SV spec, and perhaps pleased more of them

[cowmuflage]

dude Quelthasa Not attacking you or anything but Bm gets all the new "fancy" looking pets nowaday heck look at most spirit beasts there just fancy skins of other pet familys I think most of them should be in those familys and have the spirit beasts look DIFFERNT to the other pet faimlys would make more sence ya know?. sorry had to rant bout that. thats basicly the main reason i'd like to get exotics as i'm MM and Blizz has not given us any fancy looking pets in a long time and it would stop the asshole BM hunters on my realm dissing me for not haveing "fancy" skins or not haveing "exotics cos im a MM and thus i must hate pets" >.>.

[Max]

I agree with the OP. Bm have such a bad rep now, that sometimes I feel almost ashamed to be one. Exotics are the one thing that makes bm stand apart. It certainly isn't their damage output.

I was about to write this but then I saw your post, so i'll just QFT it.

[Siliverin]

Well i willl put my 2 cents in, in my opinion they shouldnt get exotic beast. I have been a BM hunter since the dawn of wow. all the specs have their own special thing and if they let all specs have exotic pets what would bm have that makes them special? i know i get talked down to and kicked from groups cause i am bm spec'd and cant pull the same dps as a mm or surv hunter. it makes me sad but im not changing my spec for no one. from what ive been able to see hunters are like mages in a way spec wise ( i have an 80 mage)
BM/Frost- Leveling
MM/Arcane- raid/duengon's ( if you dont want people getting made at u in duengons at least on my server)
Surv./Fire- Pvp

It would be nice to see blizz do something for bm hunters, damage wise, so they are not beign left out or being talked down to. do somethign to help close the damage gap a bit maybe a special aura or something. if they ever let all specs tame exotic pets.. not to sure id like being a hunter anymore. like i said all the class have something that makes them special if you take one away from one spec to share with the others, do the same with the specal abilites in the other specs.

[Max]

Surv./Fire- Pvp

Surv is higher on the DPS than BM; its PVE just as much as BM is PVP

[Siliverin]

Surv./Fire- Pvp

Surv is higher on the DPS than BM; its PVE just as much as BM is PVP

true, im just going but the majority of what i see on my server but again very true so i guess BM/Surv = pvp/leveling but still bm always gets knocked

[Shandorei]

dude Quelthasa Not attacking you or anything but Bm gets all the new "fancy" looking pets nowaday heck look at most spirit beasts there just fancy skins of other pet familys I think most of them should be in those familys and have the spirit beasts look DIFFERNT to the other pet faimlys would make more sence ya know?. sorry had to rant bout that. thats basicly the main reason i'd like to get exotics as i'm MM and Blizz has not given us any fancy looking pets in a long time and it would stop the asshole BM hunters on my realm dissing me for not haveing "fancy" skins or not haveing "exotics cos im a MM and thus i must hate pets" >.>.

Ahh yeah I see, well, this rep your spec have, is because most hunters I see while raiding, doing dungeons, even BGs(Yeah actually), with their wolves only to get that ... 320 AP? buff, when you see these players you can clearly see that they have no interest in their beasts.. And most of them are like this, perhaps with an exception of you + some smart players.

I know you would like to have cooler pets, neat looking ones, cute, anyway, this is blizzard who fail to see. They should in my opinion let out much more rares in the "normal" pet families to justify the BM exotic talent, while still keeping it special to BMs that they can have exotics, if you understand Thing is, the spec evolves around the pets, thats why blizzards give much more love to BM hunters around these, whilst SV / MM is evolved around shots and traps, which is why they give you the fancy tools. I personally think this goes both ways, and both specs lack something from each other, but trading these, and BM a shot, and SV/MM Exotic just doesn't seem fair to me, its just how it goes and that is why Dual-Talents is here to help you out! ;D

[Max]

dude Quelthasa Not attacking you or anything but Bm gets all the new "fancy" looking pets nowaday heck look at most spirit beasts there just fancy skins of other pet familys I think most of them should be in those familys and have the spirit beasts look DIFFERNT to the other pet faimlys would make more sence ya know?. sorry had to rant bout that. thats basicly the main reason i'd like to get exotics as i'm MM and Blizz has not given us any fancy looking pets in a long time and it would stop the asshole BM hunters on my realm dissing me for not haveing "fancy" skins or not haveing "exotics cos im a MM and thus i must hate pets" >.>.

Ahh yeah I see, well, this rep your spec have, is because most hunters I see while raiding, doing dungeons, even BGs(Yeah actually), with their wolves only to get that ... 320 AP? buff, when you see these players you can clearly see that they have no interest in their beasts.. And most of them are like this, perhaps with an exception of you + some smart players.

I know you would like to have cooler pets, neat looking ones, cute, anyway, this is blizzard who fail to see. They should in my opinion let out much more rares in the "normal" pet families to justify the BM exotic talent, while still keeping it special to BMs that they can have exotics, if you understand Thing is, the spec evolves around the pets, thats why blizzards give much more love to BM hunters around these, whilst SV / MM is evolved around shots and traps, which is why they give you the fancy tools. I personally think this goes both ways, and both specs lack something from each other, but trading these, and BM a shot, and SV/MM Exotic just doesn't seem fair to me, its just how it goes and that is why Dual-Talents is here to help you out! ;D

^This. there is Dual specc, another reason MM/Surv shouldn't get Exotics

[Shandorei]

Well i willl put my 2 cents in, in my opinion they shouldnt get exotic beast. I have been a BM hunter since the dawn of wow. all the specs have their own special thing and if they let all specs have exotic pets what would bm have that makes them special? i know i get talked down to and kicked from groups cause i am bm spec'd and cant pull the same dps as a mm or surv hunter. it makes me sad but im not changing my spec for no one. from what ive been able to see hunters are like mages in a way spec wise ( i have an 80 mage)
BM/Frost- Leveling
MM/Arcane- raid/duengon's ( if you dont want people getting made at u in duengons at least on my server)
Surv./Fire- Pvp

It would be nice to see blizz do something for bm hunters, damage wise, so they are not beign left out or being talked down to. do somethign to help close the damage gap a bit maybe a special aura or something. if they ever let all specs tame exotic pets.. not to sure id like being a hunter anymore. like i said all the class have something that makes them special if you take one away from one spec to share with the others, do the same with the specal abilites in the other specs.

what you say is very correct, only that both BM and frost also is viable in PvP ^^ hehe.

And the thing you said about making BM more viable in increasing the damage with some special aura.. That is not bad at all, and is exactly a thing that should be looked upon, but all the utility we get from BM in PvP with stun, movement increase, and 10 sec immunity makes it quite difficult to give us these buffs without turning overpowered, the most reasonable thing to do in my eyes is buffing some of the talents that increase pet damage, not ours. I think it should be given a shot in the future, afterall, we are Beast Masters.

I say it again: No shot could ever justify the loss of Exotic beasts. Sorry, I can't change my opinion on this.

[Shandorei]

Well i willl put my 2 cents in, in my opinion they shouldnt get exotic beast. I have been a BM hunter since the dawn of wow. all the specs have their own special thing and if they let all specs have exotic pets what would bm have that makes them special? i know i get talked down to and kicked from groups cause i am bm spec'd and cant pull the same dps as a mm or surv hunter. it makes me sad but im not changing my spec for no one. from what ive been able to see hunters are like mages in a way spec wise ( i have an 80 mage)
BM/Frost- Leveling
MM/Arcane- raid/duengon's ( if you dont want people getting made at u in duengons at least on my server)
Surv./Fire- Pvp

It would be nice to see blizz do something for bm hunters, damage wise, so they are not beign left out or being talked down to. do somethign to help close the damage gap a bit maybe a special aura or something. if they ever let all specs tame exotic pets.. not to sure id like being a hunter anymore. like i said all the class have something that makes them special if you take one away from one spec to share with the others, do the same with the specal abilites in the other specs.

what you say is very correct, only that both BM and frost also is viable in PvP ^^ hehe.

And the thing you said about making BM more viable in increasing the damage with some special aura.. That is not bad at all, and is exactly a thing that should be looked upon, but all the utility we get from BM in PvP with stun, movement increase, and 10 sec immunity makes it quite difficult to give us these buffs without turning overpowered, the most reasonable thing to do in my eyes is buffing some of the talents that increase pet damage, not ours. I think it should be given a shot in the future, afterall, we are Beast Masters.

I say it again: No shot could ever justify the loss of Exotic beasts. Sorry, I can't change my opinion on this.

[Nefretiti]

I have had a BM hunter from pretty much my first day of WoW .. and I stayed true to my BM spec even when my guild pretty much told me "Respec or you wont raid"
I am really getting seriously tired of this discussion, if you MM/SV hunters want 'cool looking' skins then ask for more unique wolves or something .. but leave the exotics alone .. they belong to BM spec and should always do so, much like black arrow,explosive shot and whatever else belongs to SV/MM.

my two cents ..

[cowmuflage]

Sorry Quelthasa but you saying "most of them are like this, perhaps with an exception of you + some smart players" pisses me off as its not really true i see more uptight Bm hunetrs nowadays than anything. you are going by stereotypes man and thats not good. and no I don't want to "deul spec" ok i can't stand BM and I'm getting sick of BM hunters useing that exuse yet they don't liek it when i say it to them so why say it to me?

sorry to sound angry i don't mean too

[Siliverin]

And the thing you said about making BM more viable in increasing the damage with some special aura.. That is not bad at all, and is exactly a thing that should be looked upon, but all the utility we get from BM in PvP with stun, movement increase, and 10 sec immunity makes it quite difficult to give us these buffs without turning overpowered, the most reasonable thing to do in my eyes is buffing some of the talents that increase pet damage, not ours. I think it should be given a shot in the future, afterall, we are Beast Masters.

that is very true never thought about that. I think that would be the best, to buff the talents of the pets, and not us. Blizz should look into it. I mean if you are gonna take something that is "special" to one spec and share it with the rest, you better do it with the other specs "special" talents, it would only be fair, i mean you take something special from a spec, what does it have that sets it from the rest? nothing. again just my opinion

[cowmuflage]

yeah they should give you more pet buffs as thats whats BM is about the pet doing the main DPS and not the hunter.

[Slickrock]

Wow... lotta posts... a few notes reading through all that..

It's clear MM here don't want to loose their pets, just as BM doesn't want to loose their flavor, so let me be clear, BW is not enough to distinguish BM from MM/SV if everyone got exotics.

BM is raid viable, and can do just as much dps as SV, but both are behind MM.

The 51-point BM talent would have to be replaced if everyone got exotics, or it would have to be severly buffed. Only 4 extra pet talent points for a 51-point talent? I don't think so.

If everyone got exotics, then they aren't exotic anymore. Just remove the label entirely and give BM the dual-pet talent instead for the 51-pointer. I'd buy that.

[Slickrock]

Sorry Quelthasa but you saying "most of them are like this, perhaps with an exception of you + some smart players" pisses me off as its not really true i see more uptight Bm hunetrs nowadays than anything. you are going by stereotypes man and thats not good. and no I don't want to "deul spec" ok i can't stand BM and I'm getting sick of BM hunters useing that exuse yet they don't liek it when i say it to them so why say it to me?

sorry to sound angry i don't mean too

Yeah, you do sound angry.. but what I see is MM hunters that mock BM hunters.. that's what I deal with on a daily basis. And now they want my exotics too?..