Family Suggestion for Mushan: Behemoth

[PorrasouxRex]

This is a suggestion for a family involving the Mushan, as well as many other grazzing, large animals we have in game currently. (Though Rhinos should stay in their own family, as the massive horn, as well as other traits make it more unique to it's own family)

The family: Kodos, Clefthooves, Mushan (Exotic)

Abilities: Heavy Crash: The Behemoth, with its two front legs stomps into the earth with its weight (An AoE stun for 3 seconds around the Behemoth, or an AoE KNOCKUP. Not a knockBACK. A knockUP around the Behemoth)

Exotic Ability: Beastial Shield: The Behemoth protects a target from further attacks with its massive body, reducing damage taken of the target by 10%, lasts for 10 seconds.

Any thoughts?

[Edanna]

You just totally reminded me of my fave behemoth's from ffx man if I could get that as a pet and the chimera I'd be in even more love with my hunter then ever before

But no we get boring chimera's we really need ones that are at least 4 different animals stuck together that would be so awesome!

[Edanna]

On topic though sounds like a great idea! Maybe blizz will end up spoiling us more in mop then anyone thinks or maybe we will have to wait until the next expansion whatever happens though I'm with wow till the end so I guess we will just have to wait and see.

[Edanna]

Ah crap I just realized I misunderstood the thread ah well at least I got that off my chest it's been hanging there for a few years lol

[Wain]

If they're ever made tameable I guess could see something like this working, though I always had the feeling kodos would use a horn attack, while mushan obviously couldn't. And clefthooves are so similar in physiology to rhinos they may as well be "Outland Rhinos", and I think they'd be better off with those

[PorrasouxRex]

If they're ever made tameable I guess could see something like this working, though I always had the feeling kodos would use a horn attack, while mushan obviously couldn't. And clefthooves are so similar in physiology to rhinos they may as well be "Outland Rhinos", and I think they'd be better off with those

True, I baised this family more around "Big stompy grazzing animals" to keep apart from Rhinos, as I felt Rhinos should just have their own family because of the traits they have. Kind of like how Crocolisks and Basilisks are very alike except for the whole "Turn to stone" stare, just like how Kodo horns are laughable compared to a Rhino-sized horn, and Mushans and Clefthooves don't have horns.

[Crotalus Horridus]

I personally do not think Mushan Beast, Kodos, and Clefthooves should be Exotic. They are all heavily domesticated (Except for Clefthooves) by farmers and people who turn them into mounts and all that stuff. You'd think that with such a common domestic animal, that everyone would be able to tame one, right? For an ability, I had more of something that involved stomping around (Something that you hear a lot of if you tamed the Enraged Mushan).




Running Thunder - While your Mushan Beast/Kodo/Clefthoof runs, it builds up static electricity in it's feet. When it runs up to the target/targets, it releases the static electricity and zaps 1 - 5 targets at a time, stunning them for 5 seconds.

So basically it's a chain lightning that stuns things.

[Ziarre]

Even clefthooves are (at least sometimes) domesticated, there's a deceased one that was pulling a wagon in Terokkar. Granted, that's only one example, and technically there's also a single example of a domesticated rhino (see: Lunchbox).

[pop]

YES

Thoughy my ocd would be agaisnt reptile and mammals in a single family but who gives a fel if they are made tamable XD

[Crotalus Horridus]

YES

Thoughy my ocd would be agaisnt reptile and mammals in a single family but who gives a fel if they are made tamable XD

Actually, Clefthooves are relatives of the Kodo, hinting that Kodos may be Synapsids (Mammal-like reptiles).

[pop]

YES

Thoughy my ocd would be agaisnt reptile and mammals in a single family but who gives a fel if they are made tamable XD

Actually, Clefthooves are relatives of the Kodo, hinting that Kodos may be Synapsids (Mammal-like reptiles).

I can see Kodos as reptiles, but Clefthooves? I see clefthooves as rhinos of the outland.

[Crotalus Horridus]

YES

Thoughy my ocd would be agaisnt reptile and mammals in a single family but who gives a fel if they are made tamable XD

Actually, Clefthooves are relatives of the Kodo, hinting that Kodos may be Synapsids (Mammal-like reptiles).

I can see Kodos as reptiles, but Clefthooves? I see clefthooves as rhinos of the outland.

The evolutionary line could have worked like this:

Early Azerothian Reptile to Kodo (Synapsid) to Woolly Kodo to Clefthoof.

[Wain]

YES
Thoughy my ocd would be agaisnt reptile and mammals in a single family but who gives a fel if they are made tamable XD

Actually, Clefthooves are relatives of the Kodo, hinting that Kodos may be Synapsids (Mammal-like reptiles).

Is there a source for this? Other than the rpg, which isn't canon, or unattributed Wowpedia/Wowwiki quotes

[Crotalus Horridus]

YES
Thoughy my ocd would be agaisnt reptile and mammals in a single family but who gives a fel if they are made tamable XD

Actually, Clefthooves are relatives of the Kodo, hinting that Kodos may be Synapsids (Mammal-like reptiles).

Is there a source for this? Other than the rpg, which isn't canon, or unattributed Wowpedia/Wowwiki quotes

http://www.wowpedia.org/Clefthoof
http://www.wowwiki.com/Clefthoof

WoWpedia - ''Another strong argument against their biological relationship is the fact that kodos officially are named to be reptiles, while clefthooves are mammals, as plainly can be seen from their thick fur. Thus, any mention of clefthooves and kodos as being cousins should probably be taken as meaning in terms of their similar cultural roles as large grazing pack animals, rather than any direct biological link.''

WoWwiki - ''Clefthoof are large herbivores native to the plains of Nagrand. They seem to have adapted to complete exposure, their wooly coats and thick skin protecting them from the elements, and living only in open areas. They have evolved with large, powerful horns and bony neck plating, both of which can be assumed to function mainly in dueling between males over mates due to the absence of a predatory species in Nagrand able to take down the clefthoof. Their great size is most likely the only deterrent the clefthoof needs against natural predators.
Although stated by a strategy guide, it would seem impossible for kodos and clefthoof to be related to each other (except through a titan connection). During the original Horde incursions into Azeroth, any such animal accidentally finding its way through the Dark Portal would have found itself in the Eastern Kingdoms where no currently-living animals resemble the kodos or clefthoof. Although both are plains animals, the kodo is native to the plains of Kalimdor, where it was domesticated by the tauren, long before the Dark Portal ever linked Draenor and Azeroth. That said, it should be noted that there are many other races native to Azeroth that are also native to Draenor, including skunks, tallstriders, scorpions, ancients and even worgs and wolves, among other things.

Another possible reason for their similarities is parallel evolution, where in different environments with similar conditions, animals tend to take the same body shapes.''

[Wain]

Thanks. An official strategy guide is the closest reference I've seen at least. Though I'm not sure if it's considered canon or not. Wowpedia/Wowwiki were big on filling in gaps using rpg material, which was later confirmed to be non canon, rendering a lot of info invalid in reference to the MMO.

A common example of this is the assertion that kodos are reptiles. Those sites repeatedly state that it's official but offer no sources other than the RPG.

[pop]

I see kodos as reptiles because the name reminds me of Komodo, famous for it's Giant Monitor Lizard XD

[Rawr]

I really doubt Kodos are reptiles. Kodos seem to me to be related to the Thunder lizards, them being Dinosaurs. In Cycle of Hatred, Aegwynn said that the word "kodo" referred also to thunder lizards. And no Dinosaurs are not reptiles. Other (possibly) related species to the Kodo are Storm wyrms, Salamanders (not the Naga looking things), and Lightning lizards. But considering the Epic Kodo mounts have horns like rhinos do it can be argued they are related to them as well (even with a lack of fur). I may just stick with Crotalus Horridus and go with the Mammal-like-reptile theory.

[Crotalus Horridus]

I really doubt Kodos are reptiles. Kodos seem to me to be related to the Thunder lizards, them being Dinosaurs. In Cycle of Hatred, Aegwynn said that the word "kodo" referred also to thunder lizards. And no Dinosaurs are not reptiles. Other (possibly) related species to the Kodo are Storm wyrms, Salamanders (not the Naga looking things), and Lightning lizards. But considering the Epic Kodo mounts have horns like rhinos do it can be argued they are related to them as well (even with a lack of fur). I may just stick with Crotalus Horridus and go with the Mammal-like-reptile theory.

Most dinosaurs (Except for Birds) are under the class of reptilia, which are reptiles. However, I do agree with you that Kodos and Thunder Lizards and the likes of that are not dinosaurs if they indeed evolved into what are now Clefthooves. For an animal to evolve into something so mammal-like in appearance, it must be a Synapsid. Dinosaurs are Diapsids, which also include snakes, lizards, crocodiles, and birds. Also, I think the Epic Kodos have horns cut and shaved to look like that (There horns are most likely made of bone) of rhinos.

[Crotalus Horridus]

*LoL Double Post :/* I've noticed that Mushan Beast are not the dumb lumbering beast that they look like, they are actually quite intelligent. Take for example, Miss Fanny in Valley of the Four Winds. You can tell her at what level to hit random vegetables and fruits and tofu and she will do exactly that, pretty smart, huh?