WoD Misdirection change

[Quiv]

Celestalon said this on the stream on http://finalboss.tv/stream/. The show is live right now, should be archived when over.

They are making Misdirect into a buff that lasts for like an hour (think Arcane Intellect). All threat the hunter generates while the buff is active goes to that target. No more details were given (is the buff on the target or hunter?) but wow that seems crazy.

[Danielfboone]

I don't really like it. It would have to only work on your focus target in raids and dungeons. If used during soloing it would make things way too easy for us Hunters. I like it the way it is.

[SylviaDragon]

I won't complain about it being buffed. especially with all the stuff getting pruned. I djust hope its not abused too much by mean players. I have met quite a few hunters who love to md on the healer and multi shot a whole room for laughs. hopefully they can just click it off.

[Kayb]

don't know know enough about it to have an opinion of it

[Slickrock]

I LOVE this change. As a raider... fights where you have to reapply it again and again, this makes a lot of sense. Especially since focus target macros work so poorly (and there are a lot of addon problems with focus target as well).

LOVE the change. Yes.. easier. Makes sense. Good thing.

[pop]

Why are people complaining over quality of life changes? I do wish Blizzard would implement 'Glyph of the Buzzkiller' for those who hates buffs so that they can gimp themselves.

[Tankperson]

Part of me really likes this. When I'm out soloing or fighting things that are immune to taunt it's one less thing I have to do every few seconds.

[Xota]

If the target keeps the buff for an hour, then that sounds like it would make hunters mandatory for raids.

[Makoes]

If the target keeps the buff for an hour, then that sounds like it would make hunters mandatory for raids.

How do you figure that? It's only the threat generated by the hunter that is channeled to the buffed target. All this change really does is remove the need for the hunter to keep applying MD to the target, except to renew the buff if needed.

[Kalliope]

If the target keeps the buff for an hour, then that sounds like it would make hunters mandatory for raids.

How do you figure that? It's only the threat generated by the hunter that is channeled to the buffed target. All this change really does is remove the need for the hunter to keep applying MD to the target, except to renew the buff if needed.

Exactly. If there needs to be a balancing factor, it'll be a lower percentage of threat instead of all threat temporarily returning to the hunter (which was a silly mechanic because we have feign death anyway).

[Slickrock]

If the target keeps the buff for an hour, then that sounds like it would make hunters mandatory for raids.

How do you figure that? It's only the threat generated by the hunter that is channeled to the buffed target. All this change really does is remove the need for the hunter to keep applying MD to the target, except to renew the buff if needed.

And again there's also the issue with focus target. Something in my system blocks a macro from setting it, and I've tried over a year to fix it. If MD is applied this way, it will make things a LOT easier..

[Niabi]

Exactly. If there needs to be a balancing factor, it'll be a lower percentage of threat instead of all threat temporarily returning to the hunter (which was a silly mechanic because we have feign death anyway).

Perhaps the developers are thinking of removing Feign Death. There's been mention before that they intend to squash some of our hunter abilities down to a more user-friendly number.

[Lisaara]

Exactly. If there needs to be a balancing factor, it'll be a lower percentage of threat instead of all threat temporarily returning to the hunter (which was a silly mechanic because we have feign death anyway).

Perhaps the developers are thinking of removing Feign Death. There's been mention before that they intend to squash some of our hunter abilities down to a more user-friendly number.

They're not, considering they just put a glyph in to allow your pet to feign death with you. Glyph of Play Dead.

[Xota]

If the target keeps the buff for an hour, then that sounds like it would make hunters mandatory for raids.

How do you figure that? It's only the threat generated by the hunter that is channeled to the buffed target. All this change really does is remove the need for the hunter to keep applying MD to the target, except to renew the buff if needed.

Constant AoE threat. And it changes more than just not requiring reapplication. It would remove the downtime.
And on the downside, it could screw up tank swaps. Knowing how careless some hunters are with their pet's growl and Aspect of the Pack, a tank can expect that those hunters will forget and misdirect-nuke the boss back onto them after the other tank taunts.

And I guess Tricks of the Trade could get the same treatment, so it wouldn't make a competent hunter mandatory.

And again there's also the issue with focus target. Something in my system blocks a macro from setting it, and I've tried over a year to fix it. If MD is applied this way, it will make things a LOT easier..

Do you have the same problem if you rename the Interface and Addons directory? There's several classes I couldn't play right without focus macros working.

And people are allowed to have different opinions without one being automatically called a 'buzzkill'.

[Kalliope]

Exactly. If there needs to be a balancing factor, it'll be a lower percentage of threat instead of all threat temporarily returning to the hunter (which was a silly mechanic because we have feign death anyway).

Perhaps the developers are thinking of removing Feign Death. There's been mention before that they intend to squash some of our hunter abilities down to a more user-friendly number.

They're not, considering they just put a glyph in to allow your pet to feign death with you. Glyph of Play Dead.

Plus Feign Death isn't a spammable combat ability. It's an escape (a PvE escape for the most part).

[Quiv]

My main concern is when MD is put on the pet. You can't click off things on your pet, and you don't always want EVERYTHING going to the pet. IE the Spirits summoned by Warbringers. Makes me wonder how it'll be implemented.

[Kalliope]

My main concern is when MD is put on the pet. You can't click off things on your pet, and you don't always want EVERYTHING going to the pet. IE the Spirits summoned by Warbringers. Makes me wonder how it'll be implemented.

I'd have MD default to the pet on the game's end if there's no player target set. Hopefully that's possible.

[Boven]

And on the downside, it could screw up tank swaps. Knowing how careless some hunters are with their pet's growl and Aspect of the Pack, a tank can expect that those hunters will forget and misdirect-nuke the boss back onto them after the other tank taunts.

That could be a big problem in fights where dps has to change targets fairly often. A fight like Fallen Protectors springs to mind. Failing to reapply MD to a new tank could get adds that spawn during a fight going to the wrong tank. The 'correct' tank would then have to deal with getting aggro back on them.

[Quiv]

I'd have MD default to the pet on the game's end if there's no player target set. Hopefully that's possible.

That would be a nice quality of life change too. Save a needless macro. Just hope they don't put the MD buff on the pet itself since we can't click-remove buffs from pets.

[Shinryu Masaki]

I doubt that they will make us place a buff on our MD targets once more, since when it was like that at first, a crap ton of tanks where macro-ing a MD aura remover marco into all of their attacks and skills. Why the hell they would even do that was beyond me. I do remember getting yelled at by tanks throwing a fit of nerd rage like the end of the world was coming when ever I dared place MD on them. Blizzard finally got fed up with this and changed teh spell to be a buff on us and not on our targets to prevent such macros from removing MD ever again.