Changed Skins = Changed Pets?

[Acherontia]

Someone tested the Soriid the Devourer on another thread, and found that his skin will change (shhh) from live to beta. Does this mean that ANY pet whose skin is changed will CHANGE come cata?

For example, will anyone with the white worg Lupos find themselves with the brown coyote he is going to become? Will anyone with Grunter find themselves with a Helboar instead?

I'm very curious about this. Thanks if anyone can give a headsup!

[Saturo]

It is very likely. Unless they decide to make a whole new mob, with the same name, old, tamed versions will change into the new one.

[Acherontia]

I feel terrible for anyone who has Lupos and has been using him since day 1, then!! I'd be VERY upset if my Timber, whom my Night Elf has been using since a level 10 pre-boat Wetlands run, turned brown :O

[Pent]

I didn't even think about trying it out with Grunter last night when I was dealing with taming Soriid to try it on...

crud... I am not even sure if I can find Grunter on live unless I just get lucky... I'll look though....

I might have to drop my Hayoc to get him though.. I guess that is fine considering there are white windserpents in Grizzly Hills.

btw... it will suck if Lupos does go brown, but it isn't like they can't get another white worg from Alterac Valley. Sentimental feelings aside anyway....

[Teigan]

Unless they're gonna do something wild like turn him into a ghost wolf and the coyote is just a placeholder. That would be neat, but is just wild speculation.

[Acherontia]

Interesting speculation though... O.O

[FuzzyDolly]

I'd be pissed if a pet I have tamed changed skins on me. Especially since Timber is the one of the THREE wolf models I like. The other 2 being the mulgore barker and Ironjaw. I have my pets for reasons.

[cowmuflage]

good thing the timber colour is not a rare then

[Azunara]

Timber is, however, gone from his spawning place. He's been replaced by some mechanic level 85 (unattackable.) elite. The level of the mobs dropped, as well, (2, 3, 4s,) and he's nowhere to be found. Considering EVERY time I look for him, he's there, I would say Timber is gone.

[cowmuflage]

But the skins not right? so its not all bad

[Azunara]

Well, I'd imagine Timber skin is out there still. Just no Timber himself.

[Kalliope]

Well, I'd imagine Timber skin is out there still. Just no Timber himself.

Others with the same skin.

They're giving us Ghost Howl as a tameable too, so I'm not sure what Blizzard has in mind here, since they're essentially replacing one with the other.

[The Insect Man]

It always seemed logical to me that, once tamed, a pet would just become generic beast of that family and skin type (and hence if the skin of the wild mob changed in expansion, your pet would retain the same skin) - however, every so often there's a bug whereby another hunter's pet appears to me with its original size, and sometimes even name, showing that pets are stored with their original identity, so who knows, maybe.

[Acherontia]

It always seemed logical to me that, once tamed, a pet would just become generic beast of that family and skin type (and hence if the skin of the wild mob changed in expansion, your pet would retain the same skin)

They keep the NPC ID. Your pet IS the original. You can check this yourself--go to your WoW armory page. Go to the Talents & Glyphs section, and then right-click on the page and View Source/View Source Code. You'll see that each pet has a family, level, name--and NPC ID detailing which pet (exactly) it is.

This is why NPC_Scan does false alarms for tamed pets. That's also why it sometimes bugs and shows up as the original. Just today someone was running around with a silver-dragoned pet named Mist Howler

[Teigan]

It saddens me that my Timber wolfie is going extinct. I know his skin isn't but, Timber was my very, very first pet. Dun Morogh won't be the same without him.

[Kalliope]

Yeah, I'm debating sending Babykalli out to Dun Morogh to grab him, just on principle. It was a tossup for me between the light grey and the light blue in the first place, and somehow, it just seems right that she'd have a pet from Dun Morogh (when she was just plain Kalli, her first pet was a black bear from Dun Morogh).

I'm going to hold out just in case someone spots him in beta with a new model or something first, though.

[Vephriel]

They keep the NPC ID. Your pet IS the original. You can check this yourself--go to your WoW armory page. Go to the Talents & Glyphs section, and then right-click on the page and View Source/View Source Code. You'll see that each pet has a family, level, name--and NPC ID detailing which pet (exactly) it is.

This is why NPC_Scan does false alarms for tamed pets. That's also why it sometimes bugs and shows up as the original. Just today someone was running around with a silver-dragoned pet named Mist Howler

The fact that they retain their original identity actually means a lot to me. Before I knew about that I used to no be as concerned about going after *specific* rares because I figured after they were tamed they just became <insert colour> of pet and it didn't matter. It also saddened me because I felt like only I knew exactly which pet I went out to tame.

After I learned that no matter what they really are the same 'on the inside', it helped me connect more in some cases or just overall feel better that they don't lose who they are. I dunno, hard to describe, and maybe that's just myself. I know nobody else knows/cares who they are, but it makes a difference in my head.

[Rhyela]

They keep the NPC ID. Your pet IS the original. You can check this yourself--go to your WoW armory page. Go to the Talents & Glyphs section, and then right-click on the page and View Source/View Source Code. You'll see that each pet has a family, level, name--and NPC ID detailing which pet (exactly) it is.

This is why NPC_Scan does false alarms for tamed pets. That's also why it sometimes bugs and shows up as the original. Just today someone was running around with a silver-dragoned pet named Mist Howler

The fact that they retain their original identity actually means a lot to me. Before I knew about that I used to no be as concerned about going after *specific* rares because I figured after they were tamed they just became <insert colour> of pet and it didn't matter. It also saddened me because I felt like only I knew exactly which pet I went out to tame.

After I learned that no matter what they really are the same 'on the inside', it helped me connect more in some cases or just overall feel better that they don't lose who they are. I dunno, hard to describe, and maybe that's just myself. I know nobody else knows/cares who they are, but it makes a difference in my head.

No, I agree, after I learned about mob IDs (not something I knew about until just recently), it makes me feel better about the fact that I like to tame specific rares. They're still the same underneath, even if no one else knows it. And the Northrend ones will still trigger NPC Scan!

[Palladiamorsdeus]

WHAT?! No. NO. BULL!@#$. My Lupos is NOT going to become a brown Coyote. I have HAD Lupos since I hit level twenty three. FIVE YEARS AGO. I did NOT tame a BROWN COYOTE.

Now, I realize this won't make sense to some people. But I tamed my pet because that was what I wanted. I didn't tame him/her because they were the best. That was the wolf/warg model I was aiming for. I dropped Timber for him because of the shadow damage, but I have had that model for five years now. I am very, very attached to him. Having to change it out because they have suddenly decided to change it to a different look is....mortifying, to say the least.

[Tilo]

eh.... I wasn't much for worg models, tamed & dismissed OCJ several times, just never clicked...

Regarding keeping the skin changes come Cata, really who knows? I mean I'm almost tempted to wait around for Gruntor just for that fact, then you have to consider if:

- they'll make it like the worgen
- they'll make it like the ghost wolf, hydra, slime etc. - keep it but no others
- they'll say 'oopsy' & just revert it all back
- they'll allow other boars have that skin (cause Gruntor is a long freakin camp)

Who knows really... we shall see...