RL horse help

[Redith]

So im planning on buying a horse since our family now has some farmland. I know what I want...but not sure what its called.
The type of horse im looking for would be a Courser. A strong swift animal that used to be used a warhorse, and carried Knights and men at arms.
My co-worker who claims to be an EXPERT on horses says im thinking of a clysdedale.....Which i know is dead wrong. Clydesdales are draft horses AKA ment to pull things. Heavy draft horses are not intended to run fast, or carry big men in armor. They are bred to be steady and pull heavy objects such as a plow through thick clay to turn a field, or heavy dray wagons. They have a plodding gait and simply are not fast enough.

So does anyone know what breed is closest to this animal

[Saturo]

Types of War Horses
The most well known horse of the medieval era of Europe is the destrier, known for carrying knights into war. However, most knights and mounted men-at-arms rode smaller horses known as coursers and rounceys. (A generic name often used to describe medieval war horses is charger, which appears interchangeable with the other terms). In Spain, the jennet was used as a light cavalry horse.[39]
Stallions were often used as war horses in Europe due to their natural aggression and hot-blooded tendencies. A thirteenth century work describes destriers "biting and kicking" on the battlefield,[40] and, in the heat of battle, war horses were often seen fighting each other.[41] However, the use of mares by European warriors cannot be discounted from literary references.[42] Mares were the preferred war horse of the Moors, the Islamic invaders who attacked various European nations from A.D. 700 through the 15th Century.[10]
War horses were more expensive than normal riding horses, and destriers the most prized, but figures vary greatly from source to source. Destriers are given a values ranging from seven times the price of an ordinary horse[3] to 700 times.[1] The Bohemian king Wenzel II rode a horse "valued at one thousand marks" in 1298.[6] At the other extreme, a 1265 French ordinance ruled that a squire could not spend more than twenty marks on a rouncey.[20] Knights were expected to have at least one war horse (as well as riding horses and packhorses), with some records from the later Middle Ages showing knights bringing twenty-four horses on campaign.[12] Five horses was perhaps the standard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_ ... war_horses

[Sonata]

Well I read something from the wikipedia article and I found a few horse breeds.

Andalusian horse.
Friesian horse.
Percheron. (this horse breed became a draft horse)

Kinda hard to find a so called warhorse breed since most of them became either draft horses or so on. Of course the good'ol Arabian is always a good horse even if it's more of a light build and not meant to carry knights.

[Rawr]

Clysdedale???!! Oh no thats a huge horse. Think the Budwiser horses. Quarter-horse or throe bred or even ex-race horse make great riding horses. And ex-race horses are well trained and will be very grateful to be on a farm and not in a slaughter house in Canada or Mexico.

[Redith]

Well I read something from the wikipedia article and I found a few horse breeds.


Friesian horse.


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Just as I saw this my brittish buddy who I emailed and is a medeval enthusiest said this was the best horse, in looks, power and speed. Heres the pic he linked me

[zedxrgal]

That's a Fresian. They are my favorite breed of horse and amazing to see /ride. Such gorgeous animals.
But plan on spending no less then about $10k and that's even for a top of the line animal.

A cheaper alternative would be a Shire /Percheron cross. Same type of build as a Fresian but cost $6k less if not more. Those horses are very used often in Renaissance fares.

[Tahlian]

Also, a Friesian might not suit your needs temperamentally-speaking. I have been given to understand that they have a tendency to become very attached to one particular person. Which is not to say a Friesian would be horrid to anyone BUT that person, but that they tend to pine if "their" person isn't around a great deal.

There's a good chance that a "true" warhorse doesn't exactly exist anymore. You might want to look at a Perch x Friesian or perhaps a Perch x Warmblood cross, to see if that would come close to what you're looking for.

Now, for a warhorse of a slightly more modern variety, there is the Lipizzaner. All those fancy-pants "Airs Above The Ground" that the TV commercials try to sell as "dancing" were once battle maneuvers, designed to take on footmen.

[Oceanfang]

Fresian?

[Redith]

Fresian?

Yha thats the kind of horse im going to try to get

[Siliverin]

they are lovley horses gentle giants. i have yet to see a Sour "mean" one unless it has been abused. They are very expensive though. even if you dont get one from a breeder. many horses where used as war horses the breed really depends on where and heritage. Indians used Paints, quarter horses and did the calvary even arabians though they were mostly used in arabia and places there. I have an arab, i love her to bits she is my girl.

sadly the type of horse you are looking for = massive amounts of cash to get i should know.......

[Redith]

they are lovley horses gentle giants. i have yet to see a Sour "mean" one unless it has been abused. They are very expensive though. even if you dont get one from a breeder. many horses where used as war horses the breed really depends on where and heritage. Indians used Paints, quarter horses and did the calvary even arabians though they were mostly used in arabia and places there. I have an arab, i love her to bits she is my girl.

sadly the type of horse you are looking for = massive amounts of cash to get i should know.......

So a friend of my moms, her father raises horses. He said 2 of his full breed Friesians are pregnant. And will give birth arround October or december. He said he would sell either for 1,300. Im so happy

[zedxrgal]

$1,300.00 For a full blooded Friesian??????? No offense meant but even unregistered animals don't cost less the $8k. I would ask for full papers on the horses. If the foals are full bloods they'll have them. Unless something has changed all full bloods were required to be entered into the Breed Registry especially colts /stallions.
Shoot if it's really $1300 I may have to come out and buy one. Gotta love family pricing.

Edit: At one time the breed was endangered of becoming extinct hence the requirement for the Breed Registry entry. Now however I believe if the horses are full blooded old world bloodlines they're still required because that conformation is being so heavily bred out. Old world blood is the original thicker bodied horses that were more of the true medieval war horse line. The modern blood lines are thinner boned and taller with almost little to no feathers on the hooves /fetlocks.

[Redith]

$1,300.00 For a full blooded Friesian??????? No offense meant but even unregistered animals don't cost less the $8k. I would ask for full papers on the horses. If the foals are full bloods they'll have them. Unless something has changed all full bloods were required to be entered into the Breed Registry especially colts /stallions.
Shoot if it's really $1300 I may have to come out and buy one. Gotta love family pricing.

Edit: At one time the breed was endangered of becoming extinct hence the requirement for the Breed Registry entry. Now however I believe if the horses are full blooded old world bloodlines they're still required because that conformation is being so heavily bred out. Old world blood is the original thicker bodied horses that were more of the true medieval war horse line. The modern blood lines are thinner boned and taller with almost little to no feathers on the hooves /fetlocks.

Heres a guy online selling freisians for 1500. and they are adults
http://www.horsetopia.com/for-sale/classifieds/ad464702

[Siliverin]

they are lovley horses gentle giants. i have yet to see a Sour "mean" one unless it has been abused. They are very expensive though. even if you dont get one from a breeder. many horses where used as war horses the breed really depends on where and heritage. Indians used Paints, quarter horses and did the calvary even arabians though they were mostly used in arabia and places there. I have an arab, i love her to bits she is my girl.

sadly the type of horse you are looking for = massive amounts of cash to get i should know.......

So a friend of my moms, her father raises horses. He said 2 of his full breed Friesians are pregnant. And will give birth arround October or december. He said he would sell either for 1,300. Im so happy

thats really cool red just make sure you see how the parents are, make sure they are gentle and good horses dont want any bad traits in there a good way to learn on how they should look and behanve it look up information on them

[zedxrgal]

thats really cool red just make sure you see how the parents are, make sure they are gentle and good horses dont want any bad traits in there a good way to learn on how they should look and behanve it look up information on them

This. ^^
Being able to see the stallion and mare would be awesome and help to get a good idea for how the foals may be. If you can view other foals produced from previous pairings to.
Also the perfect animal, the animal meant for you will pick you and you guys will have this spark. At least that's how I feel about it.

Screaming deal for a full blood.

[agroenhof]

It's most definitely a Friesian. My father breeds these horses, they are the typical "knight" horses you will see in movies. They are black, strongly built with long wavy hair. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesian_horse Another horse that has been used as a warhorse, was the Andalusian horse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andalusian_horse, and another beautiful breed is the Boulonnaise breed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boulonnais_horse. I can tell you from experience that the Friesian horses are mostly kind, calm and even-tempered. There are also two different breeds of Friesian: the "sport" and the "old" (in dutch "oer" which means "ancient" friesian). The sports Friesian is sleeker, with longer legs and a taller build. The "oer" Friesch (dutch word for Friesian) is sturdy, with a broad neck and extremely muscular. It's like the difference between the Mammoths and Elephants.

Some photo's of our horses:
Ziana:



Cameo:


And Lammie:


Lammie and Ziana are mother and daughter, and are both "sports" Friesians. As you can see - they are quite fast.

[agroenhof]

Well I read something from the wikipedia article and I found a few horse breeds.


Friesian horse.


s.

Just as I saw this my brittish buddy who I emailed and is a medeval enthusiest said this was the best horse, in looks, power and speed. Heres the pic he linked me

this is a Friesian horse

[Boven]

Remember, even if you can manage to get hold of a full blood Fresian for $1300, you'll have a very long and expensive road to travel.

Foals need to be taught proper ground manners and how to behave early on. Then there's working with them so they'll allow things on their back. It'll be a few years at least before you can even consider getting on the horse's back as well. Even then, you'll have a very green horse who needs a lot of training. With some horses that's easy. Others are a challenge even for very experienced riders.

All that long hair is pretty, but after your horse spends an afternoon rolling in the muckiest dirty mud he can find in the pasture, you'll know why feathers and long manes are a real pain.

Insurance on one isn't going to be cheap either.

Honestly, I'd suggest a less expensive alternative would be to get an old school quarterhorse. Not the more slender ones that became popular in recent years, but a large bulldog type or classic western pleasure.

[Samskeyti]

Or a tinker horse!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsy_Vanner_horse



They're not as large as shire horses, and very managable. But you need to look after the furry areas around the hooves and make sure they're dry, else they get infections underneath all the fur at the base of the hooves.

[Lupis]

Samskeyti, I am now officially completely in love with those horses. They're beautiful and perfect. <3