Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFIXED

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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by SpiritBinder » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:20 pm

Wain wrote:So, Takanuka returned the day after receiving a one-week hiatus, with a new username. I've completely deleted the second user, so any posts by that name are gone for good. Takanuka's ban is now permanent instead of a break.
LAUGH! Dammit I was hoodwinked! :lol:

Thanks for spotting that :D

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Unread post by Valnaaros » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:21 pm

I knew it! Had a gut feeling ;D

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Unread post by Wain » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:22 pm

Yeah, I'm more than happy to let people vent, within posting guidelines. So if you feel upset by the change feel free to express that. I can understand why people who loved the pup might feel that way. The poster who was banned was previously given a suspension for being abusive and ignoring requests to curb his behaviour. Since he ignored the suspenion it's now permanent.
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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Quiv » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:24 pm

Ahh the ol sockpuppet routine.

Anywho, this whole craze is one of the reasons I backed off spending any gold to battlenet cash to join in the taming of the scorpid (sorry to those whose hopes I may have gotten up). What I am concerned about is how they pick and choose which to revert and which not. When the next glitch/exploit tame comes along, everyone is going to try it with expectations (or the very least, hope) of keeping it because some in the past kept their baby direhorns or the scorpids. The hit-n-miss response doesn't exactly tell the community "Stop doing this" but more "you might get to keep it!" While there will always be some who take part in it, I feel a consistent response across all the unintended tames would send a clearer message and properly manage player expectations.

That all being said, I'm just pretending my little Sammie grew up :D

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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Tilo » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:34 pm

Although it is unfortunate that it was 'removed', it is understandable... I've got my screenies, thankful to have participated and seeing the rallying of both factions to help others get this and the Emberspit Scorp.; hopefully we'll be able to keep those, but we'll see of course.

Again the rallying of both factions helping eachother, and the overall :hug: going on was really great to see within the hunter community. :)
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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Wain » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:11 pm

Not to fan flames and paranoia, but can someone with the baby direhorn confirm that it still exists in their stable? You'd probably have to get it out of the stable and summon it just to be sure the appearance is right. Just curious.
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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Gigabear » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:14 pm

Rawr wrote:I think people are mostly mad at the inconsistency here, I mean if all glitch pets were taken away after sometime I would still get one but just for the pics, lols, and it's something to do. The fact that it wasn't hurting anything, no one got an advantage from it, Blizzard even promptly made it so no outside class could go there, only some of the puppies were changed, and then someone pointed it out when people were already upset about it is what really erked some folks. :| :mrgreen:
I have managed to snag a total of three unintended tames. Garwal, who got forceably removed, and the puppy/scorpion combo. 2 of the three I managed to get were removed. But many others were not. And you're right. They need to have a consistent standard here. Slimes is far worse than puppy. And puppy is equal to the grubs. Why is puppy removed but those are not? Didn't even know about the baby direhorns, which frustrates me as well because "cute" pets are in VERY short supply as it is and I'd have loved to get one.

Really all unintended tames need to either go baseline, or be outright removed going forward. This ensures no player if forced to choose between breaking the rules, or possibly being denied an exclusive pet if they allow them to remain.

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Unread post by Valfreya » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:15 pm

Taming our puppies last week, was the most fun I have had in game in a long time. And the feeling of community was back for me. It felt like when I first started playing wow years ago, just the excitement of it made me love my hunter community and the game even more. But man, some of the posts I have read from some people about this pet has been really horrible. I got some really horrible whispers from people of how I should be perma banned. I loved my puppy. I had a wonderful experience getting it. I really don't want to hear an I told you so. Thats just rubbing salt in the wound honestly. Oh well, Ill just pull out my oil stained wolf and run around with that, and keep telling myself Im happy with my screen shots of my puppy lol.
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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Wain » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:16 pm

I'm unsure why they changed the appearance of this one but not others. It's something you might ask for an official response to on either the WoW forums or Twitter. Maybe they had reasons for this one but not others, but if so I'm not sure.
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Unread post by sasrei7 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:24 pm

I really wish they'd have more cute tames or you know as long as it's not breaking the game or causing any unfair advantage to just keep it in game. Things like the oil wolf and flaming pigs really didn't do any harm besides be a pain in the butt to nail lol. I mean if a hunter wants to spend 2-5 hours trying to tame something that doesn't give that hunter any unfair advantage, then where is the harm? DOn't get me wrong I think it's awesome a lot of the legion stuff, but I miss my oil wolf and my flaming bacon.. I wonder if the worg puppy was removed because of the whole no eyes glitch? I mean that be creepy lol.

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Unread post by Gigabear » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:28 pm

sasrei7 wrote:I really wish they'd have more cute tames or you know as long as it's not breaking the game or causing any unfair advantage to just keep it in game. Things like the oil wolf and flaming pigs really didn't do any harm besides be a pain in the butt to nail lol. I mean if a hunter wants to spend 2-5 hours trying to tame something that doesn't give that hunter any unfair advantage, then where is the harm? DOn't get me wrong I think it's awesome a lot of the legion stuff, but I miss my oil wolf and my flaming bacon.. I wonder if the worg puppy was removed because of the whole no eyes glitch? I mean that be creepy lol.
Interestingly enough, the eyes look perfect if you raise your texture detail. This was mostly a graphical bug with easy fixes. I overwrote my Hati earlier, which is a shame, but Maybe we can convince Blizz to give us a tameable puppy sometime before the next ice age?

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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Rawr » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:29 pm

They have a glyph of spiders, don't think they really care how creepy a pet is (I like spiders but I knew ppl who refused to raid if I pulled one out). :mrgreen:

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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Valfreya » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:30 pm

sasrei7 wrote:I really wish they'd have more cute tames or you know as long as it's not breaking the game or causing any unfair advantage to just keep it in game. Things like the oil wolf and flaming pigs really didn't do any harm besides be a pain in the butt to nail lol. I mean if a hunter wants to spend 2-5 hours trying to tame something that doesn't give that hunter any unfair advantage, then where is the harm? DOn't get me wrong I think it's awesome a lot of the legion stuff, but I miss my oil wolf and my flaming bacon.. I wonder if the worg puppy was removed because of the whole no eyes glitch? I mean that be creepy lol.

Was your oil wolf taken away?

I just took mine out of the stable and he still summons with his Oil coat still on.

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Unread post by sasrei7 » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:37 pm

I uh forgot about the timewalking dungeons of doom, frig I hate those dungeons now lol. So much hate lol.

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Unread post by Xylexia » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:40 pm

Can't do timewalking with pup hati :( just incase

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Unread post by Dialga » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:31 am

Let's just leave the Direhorns out of it.

Really disliking the shift in Blizzard's attitude from 'clever use of in-game mechanics' to this, though. I was fine when it was ToS breaking pets like fire patches and playable races, but - it's just such a poor decision from a business standpoint. Incredibly. It's inciting fury in customers for absolutely no reward. So what if the pup model was low poly? The old worg they changed it to looks even worse, and that model's found all over WoW. We tame pets that literally have Young in the name in the starting zone. Makes no sense.

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Unread post by zedxrgal » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:41 am

I've zero proof of this but my thoughts & feelings are not the appearance of it being a wolf pup as to why it was removed but the method getting to it. Which seems that's forgotten in my opinion. Being summoned to another class hall.
I do think it being a mini pet is a factor but not the primary.

And one thing I was just thinking. This ........issue could potentially have very damning effects for people who have the baby direhorn. The taming of the baby was the first putting of Blizzard's foot down. And now with such severe backlash for and against I wonder if those with the baby direhorn are now in danger of theirs getting changed. Again. No proof just thoughts.

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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

Unread post by Dialga » Wed Apr 19, 2017 12:48 am

zedxrgal wrote:I've zero proof of this but my thoughts & feelings are not the appearance of it being a wolf pup as to why it was removed but the method getting to it. Which seems that's forgotten in my opinion. Being summoned to another class hall.
I do think it being a mini pet is a factor but not the primary.

And one thing I was just thinking. This ........issue could potentially have very damning effects for people who have the baby direhorn. The taming of the baby was the first putting of Blizzard's foot down. And now with such severe backlash for and against I wonder if those with the baby direhorn are now in danger of theirs getting changed. Again. No proof just thoughts.
We invented a special macro to tame pets with buffs, and no one got banned or changed over that (unless you got caught with the 20% permahaste bug). We ran to an island that was bugged out the butt in WoD and ghost-ran several miles over and over to reach the Thunderlord's Rylak that was stuck half in a rock. The ghost slime might have been a walk up and tame but it was glaringly obvious it was just an oversight with the code being attached to the crocolisk being attached to all the summons. There's been a special shrink-powder quest item bug to put on pets that hasn't been fixed, ever, and it was introduced in WRATH. Of all the stuff we've pulled, getting into a class hall is benign. Especially since we weren't the ones stacking AK with it....

The direhorn has existed for over a year now, and it'd be a very bad call to rip them away from a customer perspective. The puppies, well, you had a week. That's about as long as any fix in the making's ever been. The lengths of refunds and lost time they'd have to justify to angry customers over it - hell, I wouldn't have bought Legion if I thought this was the way Blizzard was going to treat unintended pet hunters.

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Re: Dreamway Prowler Pup and Emberspit Scorp - UPDATE: HOTFI

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zedxrgal wrote:I've zero proof of this but my thoughts & feelings are not the appearance of it being a wolf pup as to why it was removed but the method getting to it. Which seems that's forgotten in my opinion. Being summoned to another class hall.
I do think it being a mini pet is a factor but not the primary.

And one thing I was just thinking. This ........issue could potentially have very damning effects for people who have the baby direhorn. The taming of the baby was the first putting of Blizzard's foot down. And now with such severe backlash for and against I wonder if those with the baby direhorn are now in danger of theirs getting changed. Again. No proof just thoughts.
But the scorpion obtained in the Shammy class hall is left untouched? Unless they just haven't gotten around to it yet. This whole thing is just confusing.

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