Cataclysm Currency Changes Explained

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Cataclysm Currency Changes Explained

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Some info on the new to be Currency Changes.
In a nutshell:

* Emblems of Triumph and Emblems of Frost will be converted into Justice Points.
* All PvE emblems and badges below Frost and Triumph will be converted into gold. This even includes legacy badges, like Badges of Justice.
* Arena Points, Honor Points, any leftover Battleground Marks of Honor, Stone Keeper's Shards, Venture Coins, and Spirit Shards will be converted into the new Honor Points.
* Rated Arenas and Rated Battlegrounds won't be available again until Season 9 (shortly after the release of Cataclysm), when they can be entered to win the higher-tier PvP Conquest Points.
As we discussed in our previous announcement (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...Id=24401796793), we're refining the currency systems used for purchasing PvE and PvP items in World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, and the transition to this new system will take place in two stages. Today, we're going into more detail on how these changes will be rolled out, so if you haven't yet, make sure to check out the prior article to get up to speed on the currency names.

One change of note since that original announcement is that we've changed the name of the low-tier PvE currency from Hero Points to Justice Points. The original announcement post has been updated to reflect this.

Out With the Old

In the upcoming 4.0 patch we'll begin the first stage of the conversion to the new currencies. Emblems of Triumph and Emblems of Frost will be converted into Justice Points. For this initial conversion there will be a soft cap of points you can have, with a hard cap enforced later as detailed below. All PvE emblems and badges below Frost and Triumph will be converted into gold. This even includes legacy badges, like Badges of Justice. If any of these older currencies are converted into gold, the player will receive it through an in-game letter.

At this time any bosses a player defeats that are level-appropriate to them (and previously awarded badges or emblems upon defeat) will award them with the new Justice Points. Similarly, any items that previously cost emblems or badges of any type will now cost Justice Points instead.

On the PvP side, Season 8 will end with the release of patch 4.0, and all Arena Points, Honor Points, any leftover Battleground Marks of Honor, Stone Keeper's Shards, Venture Coins, and Spirit Shards will be converted into the new Honor Points. The new Honor Point pool will also have a soft cap for these conversions, but a hard cap will be enforced later. At the time of conversion, items that previously cost Honor or Arena Points will be sold in exchange for the new Honor Points. Rated Arenas and Rated Battlegrounds won't be available again until Season 9 (shortly after the release of Cataclysm), when they can be entered to win the higher-tier PvP Conquest Points.

In addition, purchasing any item with these secondary currencies (Honor Points and Justice Points) will now require that the purchaser meet the item's minimum level requirement.

It's important to note that these conversions are not 1:1, but are indicative of the level and relative worth of each before the conversion to the new point systems. For example, Stone Keeper's Shards will convert into more Honor Points than Spirit Shards.

Tip of the Cap

While we previously announced that there's a limit to the amount of these new currencies you can stockpile, we're providing a grace period in the form of a soft cap. This soft cap will allow the initial conversion to push the amount owned over the cap, but will not allow any further points to be earned (or returned through item refunds) until enough points are spent to put you below the hard cap.

For instance, a player has 3000 Emblems of Triumph, and 1200 Emblems of Frost; at the time of conversion they'll be given 4200 Justice Points. The hard cap for Justice Points is 4000, so that player won't be able to earn any more Justice Points until he or she spends enough points to reduce the total to under 4000. This also applies to the new PvP Honor Points, which also have a cap of 4000.

Shortly before Cataclysm is released, another patch will enforce the hard cap, marking the second stage of the currency conversion. Any Justice or Honor Points above the hard cap will be converted to gold, and just like in the first stage of the conversion, the player will receive an in-game letter explaining that some of their currencies were converted into gold as well as delivering the gold itself.

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Great! Now to figure out, how many Justice Points we need for our gear, and then convert the rest of our emblems into lower values to get the gold!

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Interesting.

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Sooo...how do we buy heirlooms? Or will the older ones go away and be replaced with ones that need the new stuff to buy 'em?
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MaximumOverdrive wrote:Sooo...how do we buy heirlooms? Or will the older ones go away and be replaced with ones that need the new stuff to buy 'em?
From what I seen it's via a guild vendor.
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AdamSavage wrote:
MaximumOverdrive wrote:Sooo...how do we buy heirlooms? Or will the older ones go away and be replaced with ones that need the new stuff to buy 'em?
From what I seen it's via a guild vendor.
I thought those were just the guild heirloom items that gave you increase guild rep for things you did, did they throw the old heirlooms in with them?
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To quote the OP:

"any items that previously cost emblems or badges of any type will now cost Justice Points instead."
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Mmo Champion has a Cataclysm Currency and Honor Calculator now on there front page.
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Mockingbird wrote:To quote the OP:

"any items that previously cost emblems or badges of any type will now cost Justice Points instead."
So note to self, don't downgrade any of my badges or I'll loose what I've been savin up.
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I LOVE this...

This means I can farm heroics and some light raiding and once the conversion happens, be able to buy my 2nd hunter a full set of T10 251 gear. Sweet!!!

Being nicely geared going into Cata will be nice.
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Slickrock wrote:I LOVE this...

This means I can farm heroics and some light raiding and once the conversion happens, be able to buy my 2nd hunter a full set of T10 251 gear. Sweet!!!

Being nicely geared going into Cata will be nice.
Not really, unless you farm a HECK of a lot. As of right now the T10 Chest/helm/legs are 1100 points on the vendor. Each triumph and frost badge is about 2.5 points if I recall the conversion right. So that's around 400 badges for a single piece.

On the other hand we don't know how many points we'll get from dungeon bosses post-conversion since that isn't working right on the PTR/beta yet.

Either way, if you have the frosts to spend, I'd spend the frosts before the conversion if you have something to buy with them.
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Maybe I missed this somewhere, but the wg badges you can buy that grant 2000 honor and are account bound. What, if anything, happens to those?
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