AdamSavage wrote:I'm not liking Mark's at all right now. It's a messed up shot rotation that I'm still trying to get the hang off. There is just no way to use all the shots when there off cooldown because you run out of focus. Maybe if I can figure out a shot order I would test it out more but for now I'm sticking with BM.
There is no shot order, it's pure priority interspersed with Steadies to regen Focus to ensure you have enough Focus for whichever priority shot is coming off CD in a few seconds. It plays nearly identically to Survival at the moment, there's no real difference between the two in the sense that one is more orderly and one more chaotic, they're both chaos. BM is a bit more orderly right now which is quite attractive especially since it's also the highest DPS on the PTR.
Nimizar wrote:@Anansi: I'm puzzled by your comment about Focus Fire. The focus return to the pet is a sideline for this talent - the main element is the haste transfer from the pet to the hunter. At a 50 focus return, a lot of that focus would have been wasted anyway. Having it be 20 focus with BM balanced accordingly is far more reasonable.
You're right, I forgot about the Haste component, and I'm stubbornly having a bit of a challenge in getting used to the fact that Hunters want Haste now!
Saturo wrote:I don't think I'll even bother with my hunters in Cata. Warlocking and DKs it is for me. D:
Based on the current PTR, I have arrived at the following conclusions:
Hunter = Not Fun
Elemental/Resto Shaman = All Sorts of Fun
I'm pretty sure I know what my plan is for Cataclysm. I'll check out the PTR once the current beta build is up and see how the new ISS affects Marksman Hunters, it has the potential to be a massive improvement, but I want to test.
AdamSavage wrote:Surv is even worse then Marks. There is so many PVP talents in there it's just stupid.
Actually I find the Survival spec to be, in theory, more compelling, but the play style is terrible. Once access to Cobra Shot is available it'd be a bit better but it's still a chaotic mess.
Taluwen wrote:Guys, quit QQing about BETA things. It's not set in stone. No point in QQing about any 'nerf's that arent even live yet.
Things like damage can and will change, and it's beta/test for the very purpose of generating feedback, what you call QQ. But things like shot "rotations" will not change, it's the way Hunters play now and it's not just a beta thing. The way Hunters play in Cataclysm is *completely* different from the way they play on live now and it's not going to change.
I posted feedback on the PTR forums discussing the dramatic changes to the Hunter play style and specifically the lack of any sense of rotation and the priority system being pure chaos especially when coupled with a highly ineffectual UI. It was interesting to see how many other people agreed and for the WoW forums there was quite a decent discussion going for a couple of pages, which of course eventually got crapped on by the trolls.
Of note one of the issues was the incredibly clunky ISS mechanic and apparently Blizzard were thinking the same thing since they've altered in in the newest beta.
Point is, if everyone just stays silent then that's not helpful.
