Cata Release

[Lisaara]

Totally agreed on that point, Tal; if there's going to be news from Blizzard about a REAL projected release date, it'll be at Blizzcon.

Yup. So until then, we wait....with popcorn. ^_^

[SpiritBinder]

Well I've talked to GMs and know someone that has a family member working for Blizzard and most workers don't know anything from what my friend told me and also other GMs. They know about as much as we do so unless Bou knows the creator or something, he probably doesn't have much of a clue, just like us. Blizzcon is coming up so we should have something more solid than word of mouth guesses, hopefully!

One does not know his connection, nor to whom or what capacity that is in, including yours and myself, and speculation about either is folly at best. That and you take to one person when it clearly is a company that you have been vexed by in some manner.

In his defence, as he is not here however, he has been more that accurate with information long before it's intent to be released, and to be frank his %'s of getting right over wrong really did not need an amazon reference.
If he is not sure, he clearly marks it with "Caution" or "Not Yet Verified" labels. One does not hold his position or following for very long if they are to piss into the wind each time they hear a rumour... Now I cant remember who 1st stated that the 2 new races were worgen and goblin, from memory their named started with Bou....

[Adam-Savage]

Well I've talked to GMs and know someone that has a family member working for Blizzard and most workers don't know anything from what my friend told me and also other GMs. They know about as much as we do so unless Bou knows the creator or something, he probably doesn't have much of a clue, just like us. Blizzcon is coming up so we should have something more solid than word of mouth guesses, hopefully!

One does not know his connection, nor to whom or what capacity that is in, including yours and myself, and speculation about either is folly at best. That and you take to one person when it clearly is a company that you have been vexed by in some manner.

In his defence, as he is not here however, he has been more that accurate with information long before it's intent to be released, and to be frank his %'s of getting right over wrong really did not need an amazon reference.
If he is not sure, he clearly marks it with "Caution" or "Not Yet Verified" labels. One does not hold his position or following for very long if they are to piss into the wind each time they hear a rumour... Now I cant remember who 1st stated that the 2 new races were worgen and goblin, from memory their named started with Bou....

*smiles*

[Lisaara]

Well I've talked to GMs and know someone that has a family member working for Blizzard and most workers don't know anything from what my friend told me and also other GMs. They know about as much as we do so unless Bou knows the creator or something, he probably doesn't have much of a clue, just like us. Blizzcon is coming up so we should have something more solid than word of mouth guesses, hopefully!

One does not know his connection, nor to whom or what capacity that is in, including yours and myself, and speculation about either is folly at best. That and you take to one person when it clearly is a company that you have been vexed by in some manner.

In his defence, as he is not here however, he has been more that accurate with information long before it's intent to be released, and to be frank his %'s of getting right over wrong really did not need an amazon reference.
If he is not sure, he clearly marks it with "Caution" or "Not Yet Verified" labels. One does not hold his position or following for very long if they are to piss into the wind each time they hear a rumour... Now I cant remember who 1st stated that the 2 new races were worgen and goblin, from memory their named started with Bou....

I bolded the last line from what you quoted from me. No offense intended but I think I'm happy waiting for Blizzcon where Blizzard will give us an accurate date than someones 'guesses'. but you're free to agree with his guesses.

As far as goblins and worgen go, I heard about them from my friend, then saw them at a later date on the previews.

I didn't intend for this to be an argument. I was just saying personally Blizzcon is where I want to hear it from, not just some random person's guess unless said person is from Blizzard or there's a blue post somewhere on the forums with something official.

[Adam-Savage]

I didn't intend for this to be an argument. I was just saying personally Blizzcon is where I want to hear it from, not just some random person's guess unless said person is from Blizzard or there's a blue post somewhere on the forums with something official.

Yet you continue to try and discredit Boubouille. I don't know if you have noticed yet but he is well respected on these forums. So when you keep trying to discredit Boubouille your going to start steeping on toes. So rather then continue to say Boubouille is unreliable.. I would ask that you simply not talk about him. Your only going to annoy more people and it's gonna get very heated and ugly quickly.

[Lisaara]

But I didn't. I just said personally I'm gonna wait til Blizzcon for an official word rather than trusting a guess, no matter how credited they may be. I am allowed to voice that opinion. Now I'm feeling like I'm getting personally attacked for saying I want to wait til Blizzcon. What everyone else does is their own decide. I'm just voicing what I'm going to do.

[Adam-Savage]

But I didn't. I just said personally I'm gonna wait til Blizzcon for an official word rather than trusting a guess, no matter how credited they may be. I am allowed to voice that opinion. Now I'm feeling like I'm getting personally attacked for saying I want to wait til Blizzcon.

It's not an attack. I've held back what I really think to keep the peace. Others have hinted your playing with fire sorta speak. No matter what we say you automatically refuse to believe anything he has to say is the impression your giving off.

[SpiritBinder]

No blue post means he's full of it til theres solid evidence. I've yet to see any evidence supporting it's been pushed back.

I've yet to see him right once, actually. Most people never listen to him. He's about as reliable as Amazon.....which isn't saying much.

I'm not mad but it's pretty pointless to even bother mentioning him when the only post thats important is a blue post. If it's not a blue post, then theres no sense in even mentioning it or making a fuss and confusing people

No offense intended....?

I didn't intend for this to be an argument....?

Your previous statements makes your offensive argument seem ill adjusted... No?

If one wishes to wait for a blizzard employee to confirm the release date, please do so. Yet you seem so undoubtedly aggressive towards particular posters from other sites for no clear nor justified reason. Until you curb this, maybe you should step out of the conversation if it agitates you so much, that or you may just find more intended towards yourself, which as I'm sure you can now see, are not all that pleasant.

[Lisaara]

I'm not being aggressive nor am I agitated. Tone is hard to tell between text. But seems I'm getting tag-teamed so I will step out.

[Kalliope]

Your tone is pretty clear in the posts Spiritbinder quoted and it's why I stepped into this thread the way I did. (Only Spiritbinder said it much more clearly and directly than I did, especially the points regarding Boubouille's accuracy, since he is VERY good about putting disclaimers up when things are uncertain.)

I'm not going to drag things out further, since the matter is being dropped. I just wanted to (clearly) agree for the record that your commentary was not misinterpreted, and it was out of line.

[Lisaara]

Well then I apologize. I didn't mean for it to be out of line. I was just stating personally out of preference that I'm waiting for Blizzcon. I don't know this guy personally. I don't follow him and I don't appreciate his words being forced upon me either(I'm sure there isn't a rule saying I have to trust this guy). I preferred your way, Kalli, since you were more polite and nicer about it. So I'm leaving it at that and dropping this entirely. If anyone wishes to talk to me more about it, please PM me and I ask to be nice and polite about it. I don't want an inbox full of flames and harassment.

[SpiritBinder]

All good, perspective achieved.

[Kalliope]

Nope, no one's forcing anyone to believe anything. You're entitled to not believe the projected release dates posted on MMO (by Boubouille), but slandering the man is out of line.

But as Spirit said, perspective achieved.

[SgtMakkie]

Grrrrrr do I have let Reikoku loose in this thread;) Please lock this thread. As all I, as op had was a possible release date no more no less and it has become this

Set traps and waits, *easy boy *(pats reikoku)