Thinking about not being a hunter anymore.

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Re: Thinking about not being a hunter anymore.

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Ryai wrote:BM used to have a Cobra Shot buff- well steady and cobra. It was removed, and SV got talents or whatever to buff Cobra Shot. Yes BM can use it and I want to use it, but with a lack of a glyph to make it do the 10% more my steady does, it's not viable for me. Meaning, yes Tah, it is a SV shot first and formost. Like Kill Command is the replacement BM shot.
Also, cobra shot is not the priority SV. The "specials" are Chimera, Explosive, and Kill Command to their respective trees. Yes, SV does want to use CoS since the mastery and need for focus benefits greatly from it, more so than BM, which is why I assume they deemed it necessary to move it to the SV part of the spell book. It's also why they gave BM a signature shot as KC instead. Just because CoS is on another tab of the spell book doesn't mean BM isn't supposed to use it. Cobra shot is a "priority" to both trees. The case of the MM talent for using SS instead as BM to buff haste is valid, but no theorycrafting or w/e has been adequately done on the matter. Also, we can't even get those points on live.
Even though your not running out of focus as BM, the cost of reapplying versus getting off another Arcane shot is not worth reapplying Serpent just to use SS.
Not trying to bash or anything, srry if I came off kinda authoritative, but this information is already been discussed and from a dev/designer point of view it makes more sense this way.


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Re: Thinking about not being a hunter anymore.

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Even though your not running out of focus as BM, the cost of reapplying versus getting off another Arcane shot is not worth reapplying Serpent just to use SS.
And? Serpent Sting still lasts 13 seconds or so- in those 13 seconds I've already gotten off 2 kill commands and arcane shot. Hell, it's NOT the sting that drains me from using AS, it's Kill Command because I always have to make sure it is used as soon as it's up, where as imo, the imp sting gives me a chance to be lax on reapplying sting for 1/2 seconds- because honestly that's only gonna make a matter for dps in raids, not dungeons.

Besides. BW+Efficency = almost 10 arcane shots in a row. So I really doubt I'll be missing out on much. Because as I said I'm not focus starved using sting like I do, I get focus starved because I'm not used to focus yet and I'm still ingrained in the 'Arcane/Steady' rotation of ye olde mana usage.

Then everyone is also ignoring my point in the first place. SV buffs Cobra Shot. SV benifits more, from Cobra Shot, because Cobra is nature- SV buffs elemental damage. Therefor, Cobra Shot is buffed for SV more than BM.

So it means really it's going to come down to, is haste + SS glyph more effective for a BM hunter, or is Cobra Shot more effective, once we hit 85. Or will Cobra Shot be like ye old Starfire glyph, you weave it into the rotation when you want to top off serpent sting and nothing more?

Or tldr;

Cobra shot does + dmg for SV. For BM and SV it ignores arp or whatever. It extends Serpent Sting.
Steady shot does same damage for all speccs. It can be boosted by a glyph. With MM's talent, it can give you 15% haste.

So in all honesty I think it's probably going to come down to how you play, because I remember being told back when BM could still use aimed shot that no multi shot did more damage on single targets! when multi shot really didn't do more damage than aimed shot when I tested it, and I still did decent dps when supposedly my dps should have been lowerr.

Cobra and Steady are the new Aimed and Multi.
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