Beast or Beast types you'd like to see tameable

[Worba]

Zhevra and other ungulates! I thought we were going to get these with the Exotic Pets talent back when it was first mentioned in Wrath Beta and was crushed that it never happened. I've never really understood why we couldn't tame them to be honest. The whole "they're a mount" argument seems weak to me.

I agree with Hydras. But I'd like Zhevras the most. I think I'd give my entire stable for one. I'm an equine lover!

The fact is...it's not weak because I think they're keeping it realistic on that level. A hunter MOUNTS a horse and rides it. A horse has no hunting instincts what so ever because they don't hunt. They flee if a predator is near. They only fight if necessary, which against a well armed, pro predator....the horse would be killed. So equines are kinda out of the question and I see why it wad denied. It'd be cool but it wouldn't make any sense. :/ Most if not all the pets we can tame are predators of some sort or have some sort of way to fight. Equines don't really have much. They were meant to run. Running really doesnt help the hunter much.

That's just two cents from another equine lover. I love me some horses. I'd never send them into the jaws of death.

Hmmm... yeah, I could see that with horses, although a good old fashioned warhorse would come pretty close to being a "predator" - they were bred and trained to be absolute monsters on the battlefield... but horses are such an iconic "mount" creature that I don't think I could ever get used to the idea of them being pets on a gut level... that extends (for me) to most anything with an "equine" sort of build e.g. stags, zhevras, giraffes, talbuks et al...

I would be okay with shoveltusks though; having humanoid faces seems to be enough of a departure from the equine look to make it work, when I see one patrolling with a wolvar master.

[Worba]

Since I posted it elsewhere, figured I would here to. This is my pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease make it tameable beast on the beta.

Isn't that a yeti? XD I thought Yeti's were humanoids....I could be wrong though.

They can classify as anything they want, but the (wotlk) yeti's model is actually just a tricked out Uhk'Loc, so they could work quite nicely as gorilla skin...

[Bundia]

Zhevra and other ungulates! I thought we were going to get these with the Exotic Pets talent back when it was first mentioned in Wrath Beta and was crushed that it never happened. I've never really understood why we couldn't tame them to be honest. The whole "they're a mount" argument seems weak to me.

I agree with Hydras. But I'd like Zhevras the most. I think I'd give my entire stable for one. I'm an equine lover!

The fact is...it's not weak because I think they're keeping it realistic on that level. A hunter MOUNTS a horse and rides it. A horse has no hunting instincts what so ever because they don't hunt. They flee if a predator is near. They only fight if necessary, which against a well armed, pro predator....the horse would be killed. So equines are kinda out of the question and I see why it wad denied. It'd be cool but it wouldn't make any sense. :/ Most if not all the pets we can tame are predators of some sort or have some sort of way to fight. Equines don't really have much. They were meant to run. Running really doesnt help the hunter much.

That's just two cents from another equine lover. I love me some horses. I'd never send them into the jaws of death.

I have to disagree. I have witnessed the fighting spirit of a horse on numerous occasions. And that is from wild and domestic horses. And the notion that a horse's first instinct is to flee is incorrect. In the wild, a stallion would never had a herd if he fled every encounter. He'd also be dead if he could not fight back.

As for all or even most of our pets being predators, I have to disagree as well. Turtles, Moths, Wasps, Dogs, Beetles, Cats (it's a general term), Worms, Tailstriders(I find them meek), Bats, and Rhinos aren't predators in any sense in my view. However, as a Hunter we have trained them to fight for us and beside us.

And as a mount for humans, horses have run into certain death. There is no reason they cannot do the same standing at the side of their hunter. I'd hate to underestimate to power of the Equine.

[Lisaara]

Zhevra and other ungulates! I thought we were going to get these with the Exotic Pets talent back when it was first mentioned in Wrath Beta and was crushed that it never happened. I've never really understood why we couldn't tame them to be honest. The whole "they're a mount" argument seems weak to me.

I agree with Hydras. But I'd like Zhevras the most. I think I'd give my entire stable for one. I'm an equine lover!

The fact is...it's not weak because I think they're keeping it realistic on that level. A hunter MOUNTS a horse and rides it. A horse has no hunting instincts what so ever because they don't hunt. They flee if a predator is near. They only fight if necessary, which against a well armed, pro predator....the horse would be killed. So equines are kinda out of the question and I see why it wad denied. It'd be cool but it wouldn't make any sense. :/ Most if not all the pets we can tame are predators of some sort or have some sort of way to fight. Equines don't really have much. They were meant to run. Running really doesnt help the hunter much.

That's just two cents from another equine lover. I love me some horses. I'd never send them into the jaws of death.

I have to disagree. I have witnessed the fighting spirit of a horse on numerous occasions. And that is from wild and domestic horses. And the notion that a horse's first instinct is to flee is incorrect. In the wild, a stallion would never had a herd if he fled every encounter. He'd also be dead if he could not fight back.

As for all or even most of our pets being predators, I have to disagree as well. Turtles, Moths, Wasps, Dogs, Beetles, Cats (it's a general term), Worms, Tailstriders(I find them meek), Bats, and Rhinos aren't predators in any sense in my view. However, as a Hunter we have trained them to fight for us and beside us.

And as a mount for humans, horses have run into certain death. There is no reason they cannot do the same standing at the side of their hunter. I'd hate to underestimate to power of the Equine.

Turtles - sometimes eat small fish
Dogs - decendents of wolves, therefore have hunting instincts
Cats - Are natural predators. They even needs to be trained to be kept in check
Beetles - Did we forget the stag beetle who fights harshly for a mate?
Wasps - Stingers. They are fighters.
Moths - Okay you got me on this one.
Worms - And this one too.
Tallstriders - Have you ever seen an ostrich in action? They can kill you.
Bats - Are predators, hunting for insects and other small animals. varies from species to species.
Rhino - So...you're gonna stand there while a rhino charges at you for protecting its calf.

Horses just, I personally think, aren't fit to be a hunter's pet. Where in history have you seen a hunter's horse do anything but flee from the hunter? A pride of lions or pack of wolves would kill your horse in a matter of seconds.

Worba: Since shoveltusks are fictional, I could see those, especially since it's already someones pet as an npc.

[Worba]

The predator/mount/aggressive/passive/etc thing doesn't really work - in fact there isn't really any airtight argument to be made about the mount/pet thing on either side.

It just boils down to whether you can imagine the creature as both pet and mount, or just as a mount... some can, some (like me, excepting shoveltusks) can't. The reasons behind either view are more visceral than anything else.

In the end I suspect Blizzard's decision on this will be based mostly on popularity and whimsy. While I'm not a fan of any of them becoming tamable, I honestly think wyverns and griffins are pretty likely to happen at some point, hippogriffs, stags and zhevras might happen... even giraffes might happen someday... but I really, really doubt horses will ever become hunter pets.

It's just a gut feeling.

[Bundia]

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I still think your reasoning is based upon a personal opinion of the matter and is hardly based on any fact. My opinion of the matter is just that as well. But when you say in an earlier post that something is fact that isn't is where people will disagree.

I just don't really see why not a Zhevra, Shoveltusk, Stag, or any other ungulates? When we have the many pets that we do have the ability to tame. How often do you see a "real" hunter running around with a pet Worm? How about a Beetle? Rhino? Raptor? Dragonhawk? Ok. Now I'm heading into fantasy. And this is a fantasy game. While things need to be realistic to an extent a fantasy game can stretch what reality is. To me a Hunter should be able to tame any beast. And even if that isn't the case, a Beast Mastery Hunter should most certainly be able to tame any beast.

So the question for me maybe more of a "Why not" rather than a "Why."

[Worba]

The red tameable mage slayer that exists now could pretty much be split away from the wolves, and combined with the blue mage slayers, and all the darkhounds and made into a new family of devil dogs. They would look especially awesome with undead hunters.

Grats on the blue tag Wain ^_^

[Lisaara]

The predator/mount/aggressive/passive/etc thing doesn't really work - in fact there isn't really any airtight argument to be made about the mount/pet thing on either side.

It just boils down to whether you can imagine the creature as both pet and mount, or just as a mount... some can, some (like me, excepting shoveltusks) can't. The reasons behind either view are more visceral than anything else.

In the end I suspect Blizzard's decision on this will be based mostly on popularity and whimsy. While I'm not a fan of any of them becoming tamable, I honestly think wyverns and griffins are pretty likely to happen at some point, hippogriffs, stags and zhevras might happen... even giraffes might happen someday... but I really, really doubt horses will ever become hunter pets.

It's just a gut feeling.

I dont think any of them will become tameable. But I do see your point. I just cant see a horse fighting me, or being able to do anything to Deathwing or any boss for that matter. Stags got antlers, as do Shoveltusks, Gryphons and Hippogryphs got beaks and claws and can fly. Zhevra is iffy but they got a horn so I suppose that could work but I just cant see a Zhevera or a horse fighting for me as a pet. Doesn't look right at all.

[Ellaran]

Zebras are the most vicious of equines. They can snap the back of a lion, or crush its face in, with a single kick. They aren't afraid of biting a predator back, either. If real zebras had horns, they'd use them to stab and gore predators.

And deer? Forget Disney and his sugar-dripping view. Deer can and will murder you. Especially the large species like moose and elk. Oh god, elk. They're not deer, they're demons. And like college boys, when they're horny they're going to get some or else people will die.

Let's also not forget this is WoW, where the first reaction of any being when you attack them is to run to you and beat your face in with their fists, heads, hooves, horns, tails, etc. Considering some of the critters we can command, red-eyed ungulates and bloodthirsty zebras are on the low end of the weirdness scale.

[Vephriel]

Zebras are the most vicious of equines. They can snap the back of a lion, or crush its face in, with a single kick. They aren't afraid of biting a predator back, either. If real zebras had horns, they'd use them to stab and gore predators.

And deer? Forget Disney and his sugar-dripping view. Deer can and will murder you. Especially the large species like moose and elk. Oh god, elk. They're not deer, they're demons. And like college boys, when they're horny they're going to get some or else people will die.

Let's also not forget this is WoW, where the first reaction of any being when you attack them is to run to you and beat your face in with their fists, heads, hooves, horns, tails, etc. Considering some of the critters we can command, red-eyed ungulates and bloodthirsty zebras are on the low end of the weirdness scale.

Well said Ellaran! With the plethora of tameable creatures we already have I see no reason why some ungulates would be far-fetched. And for people who can't see them as a pet type, well, they don't have to tame one. ^^ I've been wanting Stags for years (along with Hydras). it doesn't hurt to dream.

[zedxrgal]

Well said Ellaran! With the plethora of tameable creatures we already have I see no reason why some ungulates would be far-fetched. And for people who can't see them as a pet type, well, they don't have to tame one. ^^ I've been wanting Stags for years (along with Hydras). it doesn't hurt to dream.

This.

I have personally witnessed a deer attack and let me tell you it was vicious and bloody. Flailing hooves, biting, kicking. Oh yeah ...................... that's pleasant. lol

I could so see stags etc being pets in game. That would be cool. So many I've waited for. /daydreams

[Lisaara]

Zebras are the most vicious of equines. They can snap the back of a lion, or crush its face in, with a single kick. They aren't afraid of biting a predator back, either. If real zebras had horns, they'd use them to stab and gore predators.

And deer? Forget Disney and his sugar-dripping view. Deer can and will murder you. Especially the large species like moose and elk. Oh god, elk. They're not deer, they're demons. And like college boys, when they're horny they're going to get some or else people will die.

Let's also not forget this is WoW, where the first reaction of any being when you attack them is to run to you and beat your face in with their fists, heads, hooves, horns, tails, etc. Considering some of the critters we can command, red-eyed ungulates and bloodthirsty zebras are on the low end of the weirdness scale.

You do make a valid point. Though I was meaning more of the horses like the Stormwind mounts. I can't really see that doing much for a hunter pet. Just me, personally.

[Worba]

While I'm not wild about the idea of stags et al becoming pets, I wouldn't actively oppose the idea either - after all if we can already tame gorillas and rhinos then apparently there is no categorical restriction against herbivores becoming hunter pets.

The only ones that would really bother me as hunter pets are horses and cows. Those I might sound off about in the wow forums (not that my one voice would matter - it would just be for the sake of principle), but otherwise I'd just "look the other way"...

[Agruvona]

The black stags in Ashenvale with the green eyes are also a dream pet that I've wanted since my early days of playing the game.

Yes

[Lisaara]

While I'm not wild about the idea of stags et al becoming pets, I wouldn't actively oppose the idea either - after all if we can already tame gorillas and rhinos then apparently there is no categorical restriction against herbivores becoming hunter pets.

The only ones that would really bother me as hunter pets are horses and cows. Those I might sound off about in the wow forums (not that my one voice would matter - it would just be for the sake of principle), but otherwise I'd just "look the other way"...

Yeah. Thats what I was getting at. You said it better than I. XD

[Worba]

The black stags in Ashenvale with the green eyes are also a dream pet that I've wanted since my early days of playing the game.

Yes

The one context where I would like to see a stag as a pet, would be as a spirit beast.

Lots of potential there, imo.

[Kalliope]

The one context where I would like to see a stag as a pet, would be as a spirit beast.

Lots of potential there, imo.

How many of those would be named Patronus?

[Worba]

The one context where I would like to see a stag as a pet, would be as a spirit beast.

Lots of potential there, imo.

How many of those would be named Patronus?

Barf, barf... that poseur?

No, I was thinking something creepier, more along the lines of the stag from the Wild Hunt, in ancient myth. E.g. darker and shadowy rather than bright and silvery.

[Lisaara]

I'd like a silver stag like Cenarius's father to be a spirit beast.

[Mad Hatter]

Phoenix Spirit Beast...but why listen to me? They think i'm mad!... But no really...Phoenix Spirit Beast...Pretty please?