Troll Cat Form Suggestions
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Troll Cat Form Suggestions
It points out features in the cat that seem out of place or poor in quality and recommends changes with some artistic examples. Out of all the forms I find Troll cat to be the largest disappointment in that it does not look finished and it feels like whoever made it wasn't really checking out Trolls during the creation process. I don't necessarily agree with all the proposed suggestions in the artwork, they seem a bit too fluffy when it comes to the hair, but I think they're good suggestions and are nice color combos. I like the ornaments, tusks, eyes and they also much better resemble tigers while maintaining outrageous coloration. :p The original sketch showing braids/dreadlocks along the back would be much nicer than the two dangly braids.
Some points where the model fails:
- With the Troll cat you can see how transparencies aren't done properly along the beard and braids
- There is less fur detail throughout the model, especially around the claws which leaves a harsh shiny line and the muzzle which lacks any form of detail, it basically just glows.
- The lips come together with a downward point instead of a more catlike reverse V.
- The tusks are shaped more like door handles and are shown to come out from the throat.
- The eyes aren't Troll eyes and Trolls don't have eyebrows, especially not long bushy ones, that's more of an elf thing.
- The braids stick out strangely while yawning and are positioned at an odd angle overall. Dangling braids are also less of a Troll thing, copying from the Tauren.
- The overall face shape given by the 'mutton chops' and beard is too directly copied off of the Tauren, while the other forms keep some more distinction.
- For the blonde haired model the blue paint on the shoulder looks like it was poorly painted over an orange version.
Some comparison pics it shared:
Details pointed out and 2 suggested changes to better match bear form:
Suggested colour schemes:
Compared to originals:
Yellow hair
Red hair
Blue hair
White hair
Green hair
Just something interesting to think about. If you've seen any other artistic suggestions that could improve the Troll cat I'd love to see them!
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I love your coloration and most of your changes allot.
I especially like the new coloration for the yellow and orange hair colors.
I do like the original tusks, although I do not like their coloration.
So if I could have everything the way I wanted it, I would go with your coloration and detail changes, but to keep the tusks as they are except with a color and detail touch-up.
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The colour combos, the eyebrows!!!!!!, the superglued hanging braids, the rope corset are all things I've questioned from a design perspective, so much of it makes no sense.
The redraw of the models and colour combos are simply amazing. Everything done here is everything that I would have loved to do and done it much better than I ever could. So please please posts this of the official forums.
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Especially the orange cat, which is more along the lines of what I wanted for troll druids.
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The art at the very least is sub par and disappointing on these models. It made the decision not to roll a druid immediately after Cataclysm launch that much easier.
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And as the changes above suggest, you actually dont need to do much to fix them up to withing an acceptable level. I really do hope that blizzard completes the troll feral forms. They really do need it!
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Sadly I think this is also what will happen, if they plan on editing the current model. I know I would also love to see a worgen or troll specfic moonkin form, or updated travel and aquatic forms too, but hey you never can tell what they are up to or what they have or haven't finished, only time will tell.Taluwen wrote:Personally, Blizzard has way too much more important things to worry about. I'm sure they'll fix it but not right now. Probably not til the expansion has been released.
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Why not start with what you do like about the forms?
I, personally, love the forms. I think they exemplify the Trolls to a tee and I can't wait to start a Troll Druid.
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Thanks for sharing this post with us Fael. The person who made is defiately passionate about their druids, and I hope blizzard sees this as well. A shame it's on the EU side of things, or I would so run over and support it. :3
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I'm gonna stick to what I said back then, and I do think the troll forms need a little bit of touchup.
I like the bright color theme they're going with, fits the trolls very well, as well as the tusks (tusks <3 ) and the fact they're tigers.
I LOVE the other cat models, so I'm a bit upset to see that the dev team seems to have got a little lazy with the troll one. Mainly detail wise. I'm growing on the colors even though at start they did look like they had been dipped in a paint bucket.
I adore the fact that they chose bat to be their flight form, but it looks like the low reso theme seems to be continuing even with that. :<
The eyebrows irk me a bit, but I suppose we could shake our hand at that since there are legends that suggest trolls to be distant relatives to the elves.
I do not think bliz is going to have time to change it (they've still got moonkins to go, right?), but i'd really love to see them give the troll forms little bit more time on the drawing table.
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Good suggestions though. I just think we're taking what we have for granted, before we beg for a revamp of the druid models lets ask for a revamp of the pet models or maybe some of the vanilla character models. Anyone really take a look at how low resolution they are? =}
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Alas Blizzard have proven time and again Druids aren't overly important and drag their feet quite a bit, Travel form was a placeholder, Sealion is another abomination. Tree of Life being updated but not the far older spectacualrry ugly Moonkin form the most recent example. Sure vouch for Moonkin being okay, this is until you're playing one and have to watch your model smoosh and stretch like fat when you run *Shudder* Even worse when it's meant to be THE form for Balance yet I find an excuse to go caster whenever possible. Hell Druids had to rally up to get them to make the Cat AND Bear jaw shut it was ridiclous.
As an aside, they're working on vanilla character model updates and the artists are excited about it. They confirmed this at Blizzcon so thats nothing to worry about. As for pets? Ho boy thats like my wishful thinking of animating a lot of the old ones properly.
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