How To: Tame Pets With Appearance Buffs

[ummeiko]

So I was questing on my shaman in hellfire when I came across the cursed scarabs:

http://www.wowhead.com/npc=21306

After jumping on my hunter and successfully taming, relogging, etc, a few times... I can't get them to keep the red glow after taming, even with the trick. It may have something to do with them despawning naturally... might be considered a "timer buff" of sorts.

But I just thought I'd throw in that these special glows aren't an option as far as I've found.

[Shade]

Grimtotem spirit taming was using in-game items, spells, and gems in order to achieve enough haste to tame a mob as a beast in the short time span it lived. There was nothing exploiting about it. If anything it was a bug of "unintended tameable beast" and Blizzard let it slide because there was no real harm done: Hunters achieved the pet using normal in-game methods. These pets can die, enter arena, and participate in normal gameplay without loss of the unique appearance because they were intended to look like this.

Garwal and the Oil-Stained pets are a bit different then this. They involve taming a pet and letting the tame finish as the pet self-despawns. Fairly normal game play, though you're slightly taking advantage of normal coding in order to achieve a tame. This has been known for awhile and the fact it's been left in-game is probably because Blizzard doesn't see it as malicious. However, these pets are interesting because you cannot take them into arena or they loose their "buff" which causes these appearances.

Now, these recent findings are far faaaaaaar different then the above two listed "unique pet" categories. These involve irregular gameplay in order to basically trick the system into letting you have pets with any buffs/debuffs, including pets that have active buffs/debuffs that cause extra damage and are outside the norm. There is something inherently different about taming these as it involves forcing pets to despawn and logging out in order to trick the system (basically) into recognizing that you still have a pet and that it now retains the buff it had in the wild. These are also different that they inherently cannot die at all or they lose the buff, which makes them slightly different then other pets.

So saying these pets are "just like other unique previous pets we've had" isn't true. These are unlike previous encounters with 'wtf' pets. And I wouldn't expect Blizzard's response to be "just like with the grimtotem guides and ghost hydras" because they're obviously not the same types of issues.

Again, I'm am a fan of some of these pets. They are pretty stunning and downright cool, but I'm also saying that if you tame one, take it with a grain of salt. Whether you keep it or not, keep in mind that these pets probably won't be permitted for long and that you should enjoy them while you can.

I applaud the finders of these buffs and looks, but at the same time, I'm hesitant to tame them myself and get attached.

See that's what I was thinking, I doubt that these are going to last. I love the idea of a tamable ghost wolf skin right now, but I am also fairly certain that Blizz did not intend for this to happen, and given that they are releasing a SB in this exact same skin, I don't think that they are going to let this remain in game.

But hey if they do, it lowers the number of people who will be camping the lovely Karoma.

[TygerDarkstorm]

I have the same thinking as Rikaku in mind, and with that thinking, I will probably release my blue carrion bird with the mist effect, and tame the non-misty one-she will still be just as pretty to me. For me personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's cool to see the pets with the effects, however, it IS an exploit to get them and it's only a matter of time before someone goes abusing one of the pets with a damaging debuff.

[BonziBUDDY]

I have the same thinking as Rikaku in mind, and with that thinking, I will probably release my blue carrion bird with the mist effect, and tame the non-misty one-she will still be just as pretty to me. For me personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's cool to see the pets with the effects, however, it IS an exploit to get them and it's only a matter of time before someone goes abusing one of the pets with a damaging debuff.

I think you're being a little too paranoid here. Blizzard is not going to take action against your account for this kind of thing.

[Bubu]

Great job guys:O)
All those pets r nice and shiny toys. Well most of them :O)

Will try to do some researches too.
Question - any unusual looking crocks around?:O)
For turtle I'm still waiting for fire baby, but for crock....

[Poearia]

Amagah! I wonder if there is any way to tame her and keep the babies XD!

[Cialbi]

I have the same thinking as Rikaku in mind, and with that thinking, I will probably release my blue carrion bird with the mist effect, and tame the non-misty one-she will still be just as pretty to me. For me personally, I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's cool to see the pets with the effects, however, it IS an exploit to get them and it's only a matter of time before someone goes abusing one of the pets with a damaging debuff.

We are most definitely headed this way, I'm afraid. Just look at this

[Ollof]

I stand corrected on the Druid Form pets. It has been a while since I played. Thank you.

However if you look at things as absolutely as some do, taming the Grim Totem was an exploit. Just like you say this is. When Blizz messes up and tags a mob inappropriately that is different, ZG Serpents, Basin “Crocs”. However the use of in game items for an effect that was not intended can be considered an exploit. Even if it is just timing a pet to DIE as you Tame. The Grim Totem died after it was tamed and required most but not all to relog so that they could revive the pet. Thus an exploit.
You say that the Grim Totem was not an exploit because we were using in game items to tame the pet. One can say that damaging with a DoT is in game. Taming is obviously in the game and if you put the two together you are not exploiting anything; just using two in game mechanics to tame a pet. One can also say that macros are in the game. Thus to use one is fine; even if it causes you to tame a pet that might is not tamable by simply clicking.
And we all hate clickers and non-macro users in raids RITE??? SSC Vash Macro….surely that was an exploit.
BUT; to abandon a pet and STILL have it; I will concede that; _THAT_ is a true exploit. So is a pet with an AoE damage “buff”.

tl;dr I think timing a tame to coincide with DoT death while spamming revive to despawn a pet is NOT an exploit, just innovative use of game mechanics. However spamming a macro that abandons a pet but you still get to keep it, is. Also pets that have any damage buff after death should not be tameable.

[Rikaku]

Looks like a patch of hotfixes were announced... "Some won't take effect til next realm restart"... @_@

[Twila]

If this can still be done.. My Horde moo cow is willing to aid any alliance (or horde, sense you need another to throw the torch) after the flaming Armored Battleboar. My alliance girl would also like a horde to help with it too :3

[TygerDarkstorm]

I stand corrected on the Druid Form pets. It has been a while since I played. Thank you.

However if you look at things as absolutely as some do, taming the Grim Totem was an exploit. Just like you say this is. When Blizz messes up and tags a mob inappropriately that is different, ZG Serpents, Basin “Crocs”. However the use of in game items for an effect that was not intended can be considered an exploit. Even if it is just timing a pet to DIE as you Tame. The Grim Totem died after it was tamed and required most but not all to relog so that they could revive the pet. Thus an exploit.
You say that the Grim Totem was not an exploit because we were using in game items to tame the pet. One can say that damaging with a DoT is in game. Taming is obviously in the game and if you put the two together you are not exploiting anything; just using two in game mechanics to tame a pet. One can also say that macros are in the game. Thus to use one is fine; even if it causes you to tame a pet that might is not tamable by simply clicking.
And we all hate clickers and non-macro users in raids RITE??? SSC Vash Macro….surely that was an exploit.
BUT; to abandon a pet and STILL have it; I will concede that; _THAT_ is a true exploit. So is a pet with an AoE damage “buff”.

tl;dr I think timing a tame to coincide with DoT death while spamming revive to despawn a pet is NOT an exploit, just innovative use of game mechanics. However spamming a macro that abandons a pet but you still get to keep it, is. Also pets that have any damage buff after death should not be tameable.

No matter how you wish to look at it, it is an exploit. Killing a pet AND taming it at the same time is basically the same thing as abandoning it and taming it at the same time.

[Rhyela]

Honestly, for those of us who have used this "trick", "cheat", "exploit", whatever, to obtain a pet with nothing more than the cosmetic difference, probably don't need to worry about being banned. Exploits happen all the time that people find out about and then use themselves. My brother used the sticky-wall-walking pretty often to explore and while maybe not exactly the same as this, it still wasn't intended. It seems to be the ones that use it for an in-game advantage, such as that big fiasco where some guild did some sort of exploit in the LK fight, and I think they all got banned for a while.....stuff like that is what Blizzard will hit harder.

What I'm trying to say is that yes, something will most likely happen to fix this. Whether they take away the pets we've tamed, remove their buff, or let us keep them but prevent future tamings, is yet to be seen. But I personally don't believe that the people that used this exploit simply to get the COSMETIC buff have anything to worry about when it comes to being banned. Crap like this happens all the time in one way or another. But it seems to me it's only the big game-changing ones (affecting raid fights, other players, battlegrounds, etc.) that get smacked hard.

It's kind of a wait-and-see situation. I'm going to keep my boar for now because I like him and because he has the cosmetic effect. If I lose him, I'll be a little bummed but I'll be fine. I've got 22 other pets I love just as much or more, and they're all normal. I'll live. For now, I'll have fun with him and take many screenshots.

[Astratia]

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Wrong thread x.x

[Ryai]

No matter how you wish to look at it, it is an exploit. Killing a pet AND taming it at the same time is basically the same thing as abandoning it and taming it at the same time.

I am pretty sure Grimtotem wolves nearly always died the moment they were tamed, anyways, due to how short their lifespan was and how much you had to crunch the tame cast down.

Exploiting to me would be like how the 'minor ghostwolves' were found, originally it was thought that they could only be gotten by crashing the game and preventing the server from 'cleaning' the pet, pretty much forcing the game to bend to your will due to outside forces.

But abandoning/reviving a pet at just the right second, while an exploit, is not as bad tbh as forcibly crashing the game. And if it's on a pet that does nothing more than fivilously sparkle or have a fire glow around it, who cares? It's not a damage dealing buff like we are trying to stay away from. It's not a buff that is affecting the game outside of visual pizzaz. This sort of effect is no different than the Oil Wolves- and as we have our own lurker this should NOT be a surprise to blizzard that if we could figure out how to tame an oil wolf which, I remind you, is explotation too, then obviously Blizz doesn't care aslong as we are NOT breaking the game.

This will hopefully prove true- aslong as we just ignore the damage buffing pets.

[Cialbi]

Keep in mind that the first time the Ghostpaw Runner was tamed as a ghost, it was pretty darn clear that the crash which enabled it was entirely accidental. That, and all subsequent attempts at trying to reproduce this were made without attempting to force quit, crash, DC, or otherwise exploit the game in that manner. Once it became clear that reproducing the results would have to involve crashing the system, the testers simply stopped.
Besides, attempting to reproduce the crash-tame won't be very kind to the user's system, so I don't anticipate this being successfully reproduced - intentionally, at least.

However, I still think that a line has been crossed. We can ignore the less-than-honest uses of Acherontia's macro (or in her case, actively discourage it), but someone else already opened that can of worms. All we can do is refuse to follow in his footsteps, and try to dissuade others as well.

[Trigamortis]

I tried this today on the Rabid worgs found in Silverpine, and it took me a few tries but eventually it worked.

I've always loved the model for these guys... esp with the poisonous death cloud buff they have.


EDIT: The fact that I'll lose him if either one of us dies means he spends his days either stabled or dismissed until I'm doing something that doesn't involve combat... like hanging out in org, or checking the AH.

EDIT: It wasn't till I posted that I noticed the 'exploit' calls

[Bubu]

IS it last (today) hotfix and there is no more "Ghost Wolves" in Ashenvile?
At least I can't see any... They r all gray even without any "ghost" effect in both wild or after taming

[Cialbi]

@Trigamortis: keep in mind that this effect will be lost upon the death of your pet or yourself!

@Bubu: Removal of ghost wolves? I guess it makes some sense, since they're giving us Karoma after all. It just seems a bit odd, considering how many pets they would have to make untameable to fix this issue in this manner.
Make sure you check all spawn points of the Ghostpaw Runners.

[Cerah]

I just tamed my own Oil-stained hawk, Nightshade, using the process described on the first page of this thread. I'm beyond happy to have her!



So what if it is an "exploit"? It's not like a cosmetic affect is a game-changing thing, so I don't think Blizzard will be too worried about it. Even if our new buffed pets are taken away later, I'm glad to have this opportunity, even if only for a little while.

[Kurasu]

IS it last (today) hotfix and there is no more "Ghost Wolves" in Ashenvile?
At least I can't see any... They r all gray even without any "ghost" effect in both wild or after taming

have you tried t otake them down in HP? The ghostly effect doesn't actually show up until they've been beat on a bit.