If an oil stain is abandoned,does

Unread post by **whuumper** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:51 am

it retain its look if it is restored?

The reason in my last post why my pets disappeared ,is the pet abandon macro was hit some how.
Now I have not just lost my new sambas/but my oil stain and my gore bite? An yes i removed macro off bars ,lesson learned there sheesh .

An have they made it so u can not tame a oil stain ?

Pokefarm · Unread post by **Lisaara** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:56 am

I highly doubt it considering Blizzard will not want us to have it.

Unread post by **Kurasu** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:35 am

You can give it a try. However, my guess is that they will return you an oil-stained wolf.... without the oil-stain. This is one of those 'You might as well try', but it may have been a fatal mistake.

Unread post by **seclipse** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:58 am

well way back in the day my grimtotem guide (spirit wolf) was released by a hacker and blizz's reply to my request to restore was along the lines of "this pet was never meant to be tamed so it is our decision to not restore this pet". so yeah i lost my spirit wolf.

you can give it a try. worst case is they say no or give you a non oil stained one.

Unread post by **Siliverin** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:32 pm

wow that sucks

all you can do is give it a try but like everyone said 20 to 1 they will restore the wolf with no oil coat, or not restore it at all.

Unread post by **Alastiel** » Sun Dec 26, 2010 9:28 pm

They can still be tamed with the old technique (using the alliance quest "Lupus Pupus"). I did it just a few days ago, after the patch that made it impossible to use the petabandon macro. Only took me a few tries. Maybe 10 minutes. It's even a lot easier now, since our tame time has been reduced. I started my tame a split second before the wolf bent down its head to eat, and the tame went through very smoothly. Note that you will have to log out and then back in before the pet will show up in your stables.

So, in short... no need for the doom and gloom posts. It's not impossible to get a replacement.

Pokefarm · Unread post by **Lisaara** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:43 am

Alastiel wrote:They can still be tamed with the old technique (using the alliance quest "Lupus Pupus"). I did it just a few days ago, after the patch that made it impossible to use the petabandon macro. Only took me a few tries. Maybe 10 minutes. It's even a lot easier now, since our tame time has been reduced. I started my tame a split second before the wolf bent down its head to eat, and the tame went through very smoothly. Note that you will have to log out and then back in before the pet will show up in your stables.

So, in short... no need for the doom and gloom posts. It's not impossible to get a replacement.

You should mention that it is now against blizzard ToS to do that now and could put their account at risk. So in short, it's not OK for them to use that method and Blizzard already knows they need to fix it more.

Personally, I'd not encourage something that could get someone into trouble for exploiting a bug.

Unread post by **dayseeder** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:31 am

I'm a long-time lurker, but I felt this was something worth registering and responding for. I abandoned my oil-stained a few days before the relevant hotfix was made. After learning about the hotfix, I ticketed to get my wolf back.

He was returned to my stables as oily as ever, and the GM made no comments about his unusual buff.

Unread post by **Cialbi** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:04 am

From what I understand, it entirely depends upon which GM answers your ticket. Some will give you your pet back, regardless of whether or not hunters were intended to tame the particular beast in the first place. Some will only restore a rare that you had to abandon because you needed stable room. Some will simply refuse your request, because Blizzard's policies don't require them to.
As for the actual pet restoration process, it also seems to depend upon which GM you get. If the above post is correct (I assume it is), then it is possible for the pet to be restored in the exact condition that was last in. However, I remember one user commenting on how they had a different version of a pet restored than what was originally tamed and released, and told that nothing more could be done.

So, go ahead and submit the ticket, and hope that you get a generous GM! It may take several tries until you get a GM that will actually be willing to attempt a restoration.

Unread post by **Agravaine** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:23 am

Taluwen wrote:You should mention that it is now against blizzard ToS to do that now and could put their account at risk. So in short, it's not OK for them to use that method and Blizzard already knows they need to fix it more.

Personally, I'd not encourage something that could get someone into trouble for exploiting a bug.

Wasn't the bug exploit the petAbandon() macro?

And, are you referring to this section (under C. Rules Related to Game Play) of the wow terms of use?

(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;

Pokefarm · Unread post by **Lisaara** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:48 am

Agravaine wrote:
Taluwen wrote:You should mention that it is now against blizzard ToS to do that now and could put their account at risk. So in short, it's not OK for them to use that method and Blizzard already knows they need to fix it more.

Personally, I'd not encourage something that could get someone into trouble for exploiting a bug.
Wasn't the bug exploit the petAbandon() macro?

And, are you referring to this section (under C. Rules Related to Game Play) of the wow terms of use?

(i) Using or exploiting errors in design, features which have not been documented, and/or "program bugs" to gain access that is otherwise not available, or to obtain a competitive advantage over other players;

Obtaining the buffs by anymeans is an exploit and against the ToS. i've asked several GMs this. They've all said the same thing, that it was exploiting a bug that allows you to obtain the 'buffs'. Please don't start that argument again in a different thread. We already discussed this elsewhere.

Unread post by **Agravaine** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:10 pm

Taluwen wrote: Obtaining the buffs by anymeans is an exploit and against the ToS. i've asked several GMs this. They've all said the same thing, that it was exploiting a bug that allows you to obtain the 'buffs'. Please don't start that argument again in a different thread. We already discussed this elsewhere.

Oh no. I will bring this up wherever you will. We may have discussed this, but it remains moot. And several GMS? About how many? Did you take screenshots?

I still maintain that APPEARANCE EFFECTS ARE NOT BUFFS.

Unread post by **Cialbi** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:15 pm

Agravaine, you've made your position quite clearly on Acherontia's thread, and it's also quite apparent that you and Taluwen simply will not agree with each other on this issue no matter how long you debate it. Can we just leave it at that, and not derail this thread?

Unread post by **Alastiel** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:57 pm

I very much doubt that Blizzard actually see this particular technique as an exploit. (A visual buff does not give any manner of advantage to the player, after all) They were aware of it pretty much since day one, and if it was something that actually worried them, they would have taken care of it when they removed the possibility to use the petabandon macro for taming pets with buffs. Or long before that, even. It really does not appear to be on their list of priorities and concerns. Considering how long the "Lupus Pupus"-technique has worked, I don't think that it should, in all fairness, be something that should worry anyone. Blizzard certainly do not seem to care about it.

So, in short, I do not believe that this is likely to be hazardous to anyone's account, and the OP should be able to tame a new wolf if he/she wants to. It has not, after all, suddenly become more of an exploit than it was before, and it has never been anything that has incurred the wrath of the GMs upon anyone in the past.

Pokefarm · Unread post by **Lisaara** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:35 pm

Cialbi wrote:Agravaine, you've made your position quite clearly on Acherontia's thread, and it's also quite apparent that you and Taluwen simply will not agree with each other on this issue no matter how long you debate it. Can we just leave it at that, and not derail this thread?

Thank you. I'm glad someone respects that.

Unread post by **Jroaeyl** » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:14 pm

My level 20 hunter has a level 20 ghost wolf (Ghostpaw Runner) -- which, I must add was extremely easy to do with this low level toon compared with a max level toon.

Anyway, what I would like to share is that the pet does not give me an unfair advantage at all. But what it surprisingly did was, it has enhanced my level of play. Knowing that it would turn into a regular Ghostpaw Runner, I am now making sure that it does not die -- heals cast every time, pet not sent to higher level targets or multiple mobs, etc.

The normal way to do it is to just send any other pet in knowing I could rez anytime -- but where's the fun in that?

YMMV... Peace all.

And btw, I lost my King Krush a while back because I accidentally hit the abandon pet macro I was using. A GM helped me almost 24 hours after I filed a ticket. He amusingly gave Krush back.

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