New Pets in Uldum on PTR

[Cialbi]

Would you people please stop romanticizing the Madexx camp? What if your tamed Madexx had never happened; some jerk of a hunter flew in and killed your tame in a fit of jealousy and thus denied you your tame? That would create a separate sequence of events than what you have gone through. Now imagine yourself at this moment in time but after going through that less fortunate sequence of events that leaves you Madexx-less. Do you honestly believe that, in that hypothetical situation, you would have meekly nodded your head and agreed that you should go through said ordeal again in the hopes of possibly finding and successfully taming another spawn?

[Ziarre]

I would, but that's because I'm crazy. The rush when all that work pays off...

[Pent]

Would you people please stop romanticizing the Madexx camp? What if your tamed Madexx had never happened; some jerk of a hunter flew in and killed your tame in a fit of jealousy and thus denied you your tame? That would create a separate sequence of events than what you have gone through. Now imagine yourself at this moment in time but after going through that less fortunate sequence of events that leaves you Madexx-less. Do you honestly believe that, in that hypothetical situation, you would have meekly nodded your head and agreed that you should go through said ordeal again in the hopes of possibly finding and successfully taming another spawn?

I would personally go through with it (and the scenario isn't much different than what I have seen during my camping), but here is the thing... I am all for the non-rare version(s). I am even for the new non-rare version to NOT be color changers. I am also for Blizzard making all Madexx colors available on non-rare non-color changing scorpions.

I am also for Blizzard making Madexx owners have the ability to change the color of their Madexx by themselves... kinda like a scorpion barbershop.

[Jagwyr]

It's not as if Blizzard made Salhet's lions or whatever tamable and left Sambas as rare.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of, TBH. They did it to Humar. And now to Madexx (yes, I know, color-changer.. but it's still gonna look exactly like Madexx when you summon it). I'm just bothered by the whole idea of taking rares with unique skins and giving those skins to common mobs. It doesn't sit right with me.

I'd be happy as punch if every rare in the game had its own unique skin. I'd also be delighted if, as someone suggested, all the rares had short (30 min-1 hr?) spawn timers, to make them much more easily accessible to any hunter that wanted them.

I just don't like when they put in a rare with a unique skin and a super long spawn timer... certain people dump hours/days of time into catching the rare... and then they stick the skin on a common mob.

But I do understand the perspective of those who are happy this model will be available (I just wish they could have just given it its own new color... hot pink Madexx, anyone? white Madexx? rainbow colored Madexx? ) without requiring a lengthy camp/awesome luck. And I'm happy for the people who will be delighted to get their new scorpion pets.

(edit for typo!)

[Celi]

I agree with Pent.

You still know which one is yours. You still know that you have the rare and not the common.

[Tilo]

ooooh nice somewhere else to get orange/green beetle & blue scorp, nice finds

[Jäysee]

<.< Wonder what other skins they have imputed. Wondering as well if any lion will have the new Sambas modle (hopefully not.. or different colors - Humar anyone?)

Humar with new lion model? (edit) I would seriously /drool! if that or the white one were added/changed!

[Ryai]

It's not as if Blizzard made Salhet's lions or whatever tamable and left Sambas as rare.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of, TBH. They did it to Humar. And now to Madexx (yes, I know, color-changer.. but it's still gonna look exactly like Madexx when you summon it). I'm just bothered by the whole idea of taking rares with unique skins and giving those skins to common mobs. It doesn't sit right with me.

Humar = lv 21/23 lion...
Pitch = lv 76 lion...

.. It took two expansions for them to make a black lion outside of Humar and oh you know Echayeeke also has a white lion counterpart at a higher level that was easily able to be gotten when he didn't glitch, right?

Salhet's lions = FOR QUESTS. They are specifically Salhet's lions, and I don't think they're even attackable AND you can't go at war with the Ramkahen and I am very certain even if you could they'd not be tamable. The only thing I see them doing with Sambas is deciding Oh, hey, old lion models came in black and white! Lets make some white and black lions using Golden King's model!.

Look, honestly, I've seen more rares than common pets. Common pets are actually the rare pets, and rare/unique pets are actually just causes of grief and stress. I'm tired of Blizzard thinking it's a challenge and a fun challenge for us to sit on our asses, with or without an ID scanning device, to tame a rare. Oh you also camping against other hunters, fighting against other hunters. Fighting other players be they your own faction or not. And oh you know, having your kills ganked for no reason.

*motions to craploads of lost pet threads*

There's also the thing that it's a worse time sink than Archaeology. Atleast with it you get vendor trash, with rares like Madexx, there's nothing for you to do for 12+ hours as you wait for him to spawn. Absolutely nothing. So you're out leveling, farming or doing something actually fun.

Also besides, look at Wain. He's an indirect source of knowledge. He hinted at pet skin changes and look, they happened! Someone claimed someone said Salhet's lions were going to become tamable and ... he shot it down like a ghost calling down a nuke in SC2. If Wain says no, I believe Wain.

[Novikova]

Would you people please stop romanticizing the Madexx camp? What if your tamed Madexx had never happened; some jerk of a hunter flew in and killed your tame in a fit of jealousy and thus denied you your tame? That would create a separate sequence of events than what you have gone through. Now imagine yourself at this moment in time but after going through that less fortunate sequence of events that leaves you Madexx-less. Do you honestly believe that, in that hypothetical situation, you would have meekly nodded your head and agreed that you should go through said ordeal again in the hopes of possibly finding and successfully taming another spawn?

I'd be pretty sad, honestly. But yes, I would have kept going. I tried to be happy. I tried to settle. But I couldn't. And honestly, the memories are what will always make my Madexx for me. The worry, sadness and glee. When people whisper me going 'Hey! did you finally get him?' or 'Grats! You got him!" or when they cheer someone on after getting a rare - those're memories no new mob can take from me. I won't forget nearly screaming seeing blue madexx pop up. By the time I was making that lap, I was groggy - allergy medicine, camping 12+ hours and - there he was! Proudly waving his pincers! Just for me! It only took a heartbeat for me to swoop, tag, tame. And there he was. My blue buddy. My green buddy. My black (scorpid) buddy. They're all my scorpid buddies, each with their own camp and story.

Nothing will change that.

If someone is happy with their new blue buddy and spared an agonizing camp (Only to be griefed...) or can't camp but want the pet - then so be it. Why should I deny someone happiness? Not everyone can camp mobs for hours and hours due to health, RL, whatever.

[Lisaara]

Heh, a little perplexed at why some people are so upset over this, I suppose I just don't really understand.

I've got the blue Madexx, love him to pieces. This change has absolutely no effect on my feelings towards him nor at Madexx in general. No skin is going to be 'unique'. I see the rare unique models far more than common skins. You'd be more likely to get stares standing in a city with a plain brown boar or something. Love your pet for who it is, not over its rarity. If you want the thrill of the hunt, then camp for Madexx. Who cares if there's a couple of the skins out there now on regular mobs? Your pet will be your pet, nothing can change that.

But hey, that's just how I see it.

Agreed. Who cares if its unique or not? It only matters if YOU like it. No one else really gives two pents otherwise.

You really only need one Pent anyway.

Me.

Trufax. <3 Much love.

[Shade]

I just don't like when they put in a rare with a unique skin and a super long spawn timer... certain people dump hours/days of time into catching the rare... and then they stick the skin on a common mob.

I'm happy that people are going to get a pet that they want. But I spent a good week camping for hours on end to pick up a Madexx in the color that I wanted. I wasn't sure about how much I would like a scorpion-and I'm still not really sure yet.

But if Blizzard makes the color I have available in a common mob-after I spent so much time looking for him-I'm honestly going to be pretty pissed. I went after him for the challenge of it more then anything else. Blizzard sticking the look on a common pet just kinda throws all that work in my face and laughs at the time I spent looking for him.

Sorry. What about if Blizzard suddenly put Loque'nahak's exact color and skin on a basic cat, or Sambas's or even Karoma, and left it for everybody to tame? Plenty of people would be ticked for the exact same reason I'm really not happy about this happening to Madexx.

I plan on keeping mine, but they really do this and stick with it, he'll likely go to the back of my stable where I keep the pets that I would dump if I found something more special to tame. Because hey, the look is going to be common, I won't have to spend a lot of time looking for it again if I decide I want him again later on.

*sigh*

*Edit so I don't sound so mean*
I'm fine with them putting a new mob with the same build as Madexx-but to make it the same colors as Madexx too? That makes me mad. And 'its a color changer' doesn't fly with me-it is still the same colors in that color change.

[Kalliope]

*sigh* This debate comes up every time there's a change like this.

You know what work you went through to get your pet. Nothing will ever take that away from you. It doesn't matter what other people do/get after you get your pet; you know what work went into it. It's a bonding experience with your pet.

King Krush is RIDICULOUSLY easy to tame now, especially since we can go up to level 85. But I will never forget the blood, sweat, and tears that I put into getting my Theseus. Just because taming him is easier for others, it takes nothing away from his history with me.

Your pets are still special too. It's all in how you look at it.

[Shade]

*sigh* This debate comes up every time there's a change like this.

You know what work you went through to get your pet. Nothing will ever take that away from you. It doesn't matter what other people do/get after you get your pet; you know what work went into it. It's a bonding experience with your pet.

King Krush is RIDICULOUSLY easy to tame now, especially since we can go up to level 85. But I will never forget the blood, sweat, and tears that I put into getting my Theseus. Just because taming him is easier for others, it takes nothing away from his history with me.

Your pets are still special too. It's all in how you look at it.

Some people actually get pets for just the look to show off. That's why I got myself a Madexx. I never used a scorpion, and I don't normally, he is just a companion for while I am out in the field working on archaeology or if I am in town. With him now a common in the upcoming patch that kind of defeats the purpose of getting him in the first place, in my case anyways.

Now seeing him out in the wild as a common pet is going to frustrate me in that I spent so much time looking for him when now I can just go out there and pick him up whenever the mood strikes. Part of the appeal was the rarity for him.

I'm truly happy people that want him and haven't been able to get him can now, but I'm also upset that I spent so much time when, had I waited I could have picked him up whenever after this patch.

I wish that if this had been in the plan for awhile, that they made Madexx just one color and put the common versions of him in the other colors. Thus those who have Madexx can still have a pet with a rare look, but that others could get a similar looking pet.

I, and others who spent a lot of time trying to tame Madexx, are allowed to be a bit frustrated over this turn of events, just as you are entitled to your own opinion on the matter.

[Gimlion]

It's not as if Blizzard made Salhet's lions or whatever tamable and left Sambas as rare.

This is exactly what I'm afraid of, TBH. They did it to Humar. And now to Madexx (yes, I know, color-changer.. but it's still gonna look exactly like Madexx when you summon it). I'm just bothered by the whole idea of taking rares with unique skins and giving those skins to common mobs. It doesn't sit right with me.

I'd be happy as punch if every rare in the game had its own unique skin. I'd also be delighted if, as someone suggested, all the rares had short (30 min-1 hr?) spawn timers, to make them much more easily accessible to any hunter that wanted them.

I just don't like when they put in a rare with a unique skin and a super long spawn timer... certain people dump hours/days of time into catching the rare... and then they stick the skin on a common mob.

But I do understand the perspective of those who are happy this model will be available (I just wish they could have just given it its own new color... hot pink Madexx, anyone? white Madexx? rainbow colored Madexx? ) without requiring a lengthy camp/awesome luck. And I'm happy for the people who will be delighted to get their new scorpion pets.

(edit for typo!)

Why?! That would defeat the purpose of a rare spawn with a unique skin. If this were the case I think I'd honestly prefer running with a duller common mob, purely because they'd be more rare as tamed pets than the sparkly rares that have an hour respawn rate.

[Swiftsniper]

really sucks blizzard are making madexx model available for free tames. A slap in the face to everyone who has camped this rare scorpion. Oh well....I'm sure the nerds at blizzard have a good reason.

[Kalliope]

Some people actually get pets for just the look to show off. That's why I got myself a Madexx. I never used a scorpion, and I don't normally, he is just a companion for while I am out in the field working on archaeology or if I am in town. With him now a common in the upcoming patch that kind of defeats the purpose of getting him in the first place, in my case anyways.

Now seeing him out in the wild as a common pet is going to frustrate me in that I spent so much time looking for him when now I can just go out there and pick him up whenever the mood strikes. Part of the appeal was the rarity for him.

I'm truly happy people that want him and haven't been able to get him can now, but I'm also upset that I spent so much time when, had I waited I could have picked him up whenever after this patch.

I wish that if this had been in the plan for awhile, that they made Madexx just one color and put the common versions of him in the other colors. Thus those who have Madexx can still have a pet with a rare look, but that others could get a similar looking pet.

I, and others who spent a lot of time trying to tame Madexx, are allowed to be a bit frustrated over this turn of events, just as you are entitled to your own opinion on the matter.

There will always be a "latest and greatest" pet to show off, so if that's all your pet means to you, then you can substitute Sambas or whoever else instead.

You're entitled to be frustrated. I'm just pointing out that once you're past the initial grumblings, your pet still looks cool regardless. If you would still have picked up a scorpid with this look post-patch, then you DO like the look beyond the rarity.

It's a bit cruddy that there was a bait and switch type situation, but not everything could be implemented before launch. That's just how it goes, unfortunately. Omelets, eggs....etc. :/

[Ijomi]

Look, honestly, I've seen more rares than common pets. Common pets are actually the rare pets, and rare/unique pets are actually just causes of grief and stress. I'm tired of Blizzard thinking it's a challenge and a fun challenge for us to sit on our asses, with or without an ID scanning device, to tame a rare. Oh you also camping against other hunters, fighting against other hunters. Fighting other players be they your own faction or not. And oh you know, having your kills ganked for no reason.

*motions to craploads of lost pet threads*

My feelings exactly, and this is from a hunter who pulled an Arcturis and Skoll camp. I for one would be thrilled that other hunters could get a look they wanted without the absolute anguish that a camp can cause. All of us have felt the frustration of a camp, most of us the heartache of a camp gone wrong. Why would you wish that on another hunter, who is no different than you in their desire for a pet they like? I'm sitting here in such relief that I could actually get a sniff of the Madexx model, which on a overpopulated server like Moon Guard has the lifespan of about three minutes, and apparently I'm wrong for that because I need to suffer for my class. Really, guys?

If you're catching a pet for the vanity instead of your own personal preference, you're doing it wrong.

[Vasken]

I'd be happy as punch if every rare in the game had its own unique skin. I'd also be delighted if, as someone suggested, all the rares had short (30 min-1 hr?) spawn timers, to make them much more easily accessible to any hunter that wanted them.

Seconded. If you're taming a rare just because it's rare and you'd like attention... Well. No comment.

Most people love the skin and couldn't care whether or not it's rare. I camped King Krush for months because I liked him! Not because I wanted to /afk in Orgrimmar and show him off. If they made him a common devilsaur I'd still love him and use him as much as I do now. If they shortened the rare respawn timers, who cares? More people could enjoy them! You put work into your's, and that's what matters. There'd be a grumble or two, but the positives far outweigh the negatives.

If someone loves Maddexx and doesn't fancy juggling their degree/job and 12 hour camping shifts? This is the scorpid for them! People should be taming for the pet's LOOKS, not the attention you sometimes receive from a rare pet (as good as it is)!

And, in all honestly, the Cata 'rares' are the most common pets these days! They're still gorgeous though!

[Lupis]

Meh. The fact that the scorpion is a color changer kills it for me. I can't bond to a pet that always changes colors, it doesn't seem right.
If I could get a blue scorpion without camping, I'd happily take it. Or any other color. I have stuff to do outside WoW, and I can't spend all day at a camp spot. But I don't think I should be punished because of this.

As to anyone who thinks this is a slap in the face... Frankly? I agree in many ways. It sucks when you camp for something forever just to have it made easy. Unfortunately, changing something like this is impossible. Vent all you want, but it doesn't help anyone. If they took it away now, then a ton of hunters will be really upset that they can't get a pretty scorpid. And unfortunately, only a few hunters will be happy. They want to appeal to the masses.
I've said this to my brother a hundred times when he's upset - It Doesn't Help Anyone To Rant. I can agree and give all my support to your cause, but ranting and venting about something that won't change is detrimental to everyone. It upsets people. I hate reading through a topic full of angry people.
I'm very apologetic to all that have a blue or a tan Madexx, I really am. Don't take my words wrong. But look at almost any thread were a rare was changed to be common, or something like that. Everyone blew up. Then we moved on.

And I must admit, getting a pet just because its rare is, in fact, really... not great sounding. A hunter that really wants that pet for leveling or questing with won't be happy to hear this. If its rare and unique, then somebody out there wants it for the appearance, not the rare tag.

If you're willing to shelf, or worse abandon, the pet because its made common, then you don't need that pet.

I got all the Cata rares except Jadefang out of camping, and I HATED IT. Camping is a horrible heartache. I don't wish it on anyone. But I got the pets because I adore how they look. I'd still tame Terrorpene if he was one of a million.

[Tulune]

quote]If you're catching a pet for the vanity instead of your own personal preference, you're doing it wrong.[/quote]

Not everyone plays the same, and if that is how someone plays, well they are doing it right for themselves.

I don't understand the anger directed at people who tame rares for the thrill, and because they are rare. People who do that have every right to be upset if Blizz puts the skin in as a common.

Differing opinions, people.

And I apparently fail at quoting