Crystalline Tear Of Loyalty....priceless.

[Quiv]

on my lowbie worgen hunter, i was out in darkshore. I had silverdragon installed and I believe it activates on mouseover instead of proximity.

well i was out doing stuff and that rare cat Shadowclaw (i believe is his name) was out prowling. i didnt see him, ran past him doing a quest, and apparently moused over him. the thing pops up on my screen, my screen flashes red from him getting at me in combat, my lion jumps on him and i freak and start blasting.

because lowbie hunters are so OP bursty, i had him dead before it registered in my brain what i had done.

on-topic: it hurts that people can kill a sambas willy nilly with no care for the hunter who has invested hours and hours for him. if they would do something to tame beast, i think that would help it some. make tame beast phase us out so its hunter and beast, 1 on 1, locked in an eternal struggle (well... 10 seconds can feel like an eternity ), a battle of wits and strength, tame or be killed!

[Ijomi]

I would LOVE to see Tame Beast become a phased event. After all, the first one to tag would have the looting rights, anyway....some of us just have a different definition of loot.

More directly on-topic, I never said I believed making the Tear worthless would dissuade trolls. What I do believe it would do, however, is eliminate over time the average non-hunter as competition for these rare pets in high-traffic places.

If you're on your way to do a quest that gives you something, or gathering quest items that will lead to giving you something, you are more likely to ignore a mob that gives you nothing towards your goal. Time is money and all that.

Joking aside, I definitely don't believe the grey should be a permanent piece of trash in bags....that's the same low road the trolls take. Just....don't reward them for having acquired it.

[Cialbi]

I'm aware that you never said that, Ijomi. I was merely pointing out that removing the tears completely isn't necessarily a good idea, given that they do actually dissuade some players from killing rares but doesn't necessarily turn someone into a griefer. I believe that troll bait doesn't turn people into trolls; rather, it draws out the trolls already among us.

[Ijomi]

I never said to remove them. My suggestion is to remove their rather nice gold value. It doesn't take a troll or griefer to want 25 gold.

[Cialbi]

OK, I wasn't clear. You Ijomi, didn't make these suggestions; another commenter on this thread had.

Miscommunication FTL

[Pwncess]

I definitely agree on the pets that hunters can tame that don't give an achievement shouldn't have a sellable item drop from them.
It's just incentive for non-hunters to be more cruel, especially the opposing faction.
I've had my share of "/point and laugh at the poor hunter who's tame I just killed just because I can"

I highly doubt Blizzard would do anything like this though.
I honestly don't give them that kind of credit.
I've been let down a bit much.

But good idea and I'd petition for it even though I've already tamed all the pets I want.

[Cialbi]

If I've learned one thing on this forum, it's to be more appreciative for what Blizzard has done to cater to this community rather than complain about what wishes of ours they haven't fulfilled. I'm not very good at it, but I'm trying.

[Krunkk]

I love Blizzard for their obvious nod to hunters by making this gray item the only drop that tameable rares have to offer, and none of them give an achievement. However, I have one other suggestion that would better our chances, a change that, in my opinion, makes perfect sense.

Crystalline Tear of Loyalty
Item Level 1
"The desire to serve as a loyal companion, coalesced into a single priceless crystal."
No sell price

In the description itself it calls the item priceless, but then goes on to give it a vend value of GOLD....more than enough incentive for someone to pick a rare off at one spawn point as a hunter flies hopefully over another.

Please, Blizzard. Make it unsellable. Don't reward griefers with gold, and let all the questers in high-traffic spawn points maybe ignore the rare longer than a few minutes.

( I tried to find another topic similar to this and found none, so if I've unwittingly parroted, feel free to do the necessary modly stuff. )

Blizzard could make it unsellable and make it where it couldn't be discarded, PLUS make it so it slowly drain 1g/hour and people would still kill the rares... because they are rares.

People kill rares for many different reasons... They think they'll get phat lootz, or they think every rare is associated with an achievement, or they want to kill it so no one else will, or they kill it to be jerks.... the list goes on and on...

Blizzard has made it where people see the silver dragon around mobs' portraits and it conveys that the mob is "different" than other mobs and therefore NEEDS to be killed. It is embedded into everyone's skulls and I don't think anyone is going to change that anytime soon.

Ok I'm a hunter, but even that just sounds ridiculous!

[Ijomi]

If you could be a bit more specific as to what sounds ridiculous, that would help the discussion. :p

[pemburu]

I agree that we should be thankful for what Blizzard has actually done for the community ..but still i would like to add my suggestion ..which is consider more a sadistic fantasy

For me the best way to prevent "hunter rares" from being killed by non-hunters or hunters who's not looking into taming the rare is to make the mob so undesirable that people would stay away from it. I would propose all the cata rares that are tameable be given new abilities or properties like:

- if killed will make player lose 1000 (or more) reputation with their faction (all alliance / horde cities) AND all cata factions and guild rep.
- upon death, the rare will cast a spell on the player, taking the players health and leaving just 1 health. (might not kill but sure will scare the hell out of any player)
- upon death, the player(s) that was involved in the rare's death will suffer 25% (if not more) durability loss.
- upon death, the player(s) that was involved with the rare's death will suffer a debuff that will change the players color to green like "poison" and also have the same effect as dungeon / BG deserter debuff, in which the player cant use either PVP or LFG or raid tool for 1 hour.

I think my idea is too extreme to be implemented..but like i said..just a fantasy

[Snowwalker]

I suggested before about having some sort of taming buff, that makes the creature untargetable while tame beast is in effect. It would at least protect hunters from having someone come and kill their tame. Cause we've all had it happen...