Is there a definitive Ferocity pet Raid build?

[Minifig]

I hate to use cookie cutter builds, but I'm starting to wonder if there is a definitive ...cookie cutter build for the ferocity tree of pets?

Thanks everyone

[Cialbi]

BM or not?

Either way, the answer is yes, there is very little room for creativity with PvE builds for Ferocity.

[Minifig]

I'm Marks right now, because it outputs the highest dps when the rotation is right.

[Cialbi]

Originally edited this into my first post, then thought better of it
Pull this from a thread I made a while ago: http://forums.wow-petopia.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=9915

• Ferocity
• BM Ferocity
• BM Ferocity w/ Charge

[Minifig]

Thanks.

Just trying to up my DPS a little more. I'm happy with the 12k I'm pulling, but I'm starting to wonder if I could pull higher if I spec Shadow the right way.

[Fillmore]

I'd use the one from Warcraft Hunter's Union. Pet's don't die enough for Pheonix (I raid BM) and 1 point in bloodthirsty is enough. Put a point in dash and boars as switching between targets on many bosses is important.

I use this for BM: http://www.wowhead.com/petcalc#cud00ssz0hoRb

And this for SV/MM: http://www.wowhead.com/petcalc#0md00sc00hoko

If you use female dwarf you will find this to be the optimal BM builds for raiding.

[Cialbi]

I'd use the one from Warcraft Hunter's Union. Pet's don't die enough for Pheonix (I raid BM) and 1 point in bloodthirsty is enough. Put a point in dash and boars as switching between targets on many bosses is important.

I use this for BM: http://www.wowhead.com/petcalc#cud00ssz0hoRb

And this for SV/MM: http://www.wowhead.com/petcalc#0md00sc00hoko

If you use female dwarf you will find this to be the optimal BM builds for raiding.

Really? If you use the above BM build and not removing Dash/Dive from the priority list, then you're wasting 30 focus at the beginning of the fight.

I strongly advise that all Ferocity pets be either specced into Dash/Dive or Charge/Swoop, but not both. If your pet were to have both abilities, it would autocast Dash/Dive first to get into range, then autocast Charge/Swoop once it's target was within the maximum range of that ability, resulting in your pet having wasted Dash/Dive and the 30 focus needed to activate it.

Sure, you can talent for both abilities, but you'd better take one off autocast, which then begs the question of why you talented for that ability in the first place. Hence why I made a spec with Dash/Dive, and one with Charge/Swoop, but not a spec with both.

As for Bloodthirsty and Heart of the Phoenix, that is pretty much personal preference. Those points are free to move around in my opinion, so long as you know to avoid having the above problem.

[Fillmore]

I'd use the one from Warcraft Hunter's Union. Pet's don't die enough for Pheonix (I raid BM) and 1 point in bloodthirsty is enough. Put a point in dash and boars as switching between targets on many bosses is important.

I use this for BM: http://www.wowhead.com/petcalc#cud00ssz0hoRb

And this for SV/MM: http://www.wowhead.com/petcalc#0md00sc00hoko

If you use female dwarf you will find this to be the optimal BM builds for raiding.

Really? If you use the above BM build and not removing Dash/Dive from the priority list, then you're wasting 30 focus at the beginning of the fight.

I strongly advise that all Ferocity pets be either specced into Dash/Dive or Charge/Swoop, but not both. If your pet were to have both abilities, it would autocast Dash/Dive first to get into range, then autocast Charge/Swoop once it's target was within the maximum range of that ability, resulting in your pet having wasted Dash/Dive and the 30 focus needed to activate it.

Sure, you can talent for both abilities, but you'd better take one off autocast, which then begs the question of why you talented for that ability in the first place. Hence why I made a spec with Dash/Dive, and one with Charge/Swoop, but not a spec with both.

As for Bloodthirsty and Heart of the Phoenix, that is pretty much personal preference. Those points are free to move around in my opinion, so long as you know to avoid having the above problem.

How is it a waste if it gets your pet attacking faster? Not to mention the dps boost from charge? And target switching is huge in raiding from ad phases where BM is already at a disadvantage. Maloriak, Defense, Magmaw, Council, Cho'gall all require target switching. Also at that gear level you are never focus starved with "Sic Em". I'm mean your build would work too but in raiding you're trying to squeeze every ounce of dps out you can and Bloodthirsty and Phoenix are quality of life not dps.

The only time my pet has died raiding was when I screw up a MD or Counsel's trash pool if you aren't paying attention to the whirlwinds. In 5 mans in Stonecore the opening trash can kill your pet a lot too but it's avoidable. Phoenix is really a PVP talent and is never used as far as I can tell and I've cleared all not heroic raiding so far.

[Lisaara]

WarcraftHuntersUnion.com has all the builds you need.