Madexx vs. Venomscale Spitter?

[Sherbe]

Well, I like Madexx and I like Venomscale. My first Madexx was red (Slate), I figured I wouldn't like him but wanted to try him out and everybody here were already going Madexx crazy and it was the "last Cata rare". Well well, I totally fell in love, and took a good look at the colours available. I figured I want the Green and the Brown and don't want Black. Next thing that happens, is that people are starting to talk about a colour-changer in PTR, and I'm excited. Then it becomes known that it's going to be brown. Yay anyway, so cool to get one colour easily. Venamscales appear, I fly east from Madexxs top spawn point and tame the first one (named Yay). Didn't stop camping because of the green (Serket), and got blue (Nefertari) in the process. So now I have exactly the colours I wanted.

I have to agree/contribute with the original post. I actually like my brown buddy a bit extra because I know he looks cool but doesn't set off NPCscans. He's modest and cool. He can be running around Uldum all he wants, and we can frolic over the dunes without upsetting anyone. I love the other colured scorpies, but they are my proud OMGcan'tbelieveyoucampedALLthose-shinyrares. There is a different vibe even though I love them all as much. I'm happy there are Madexxs, and if a brown would have spawned for me before the patch I'd have that instead, but boy am I glad there are Venomscales!

[Ziarre]

Recently I tamed a Spitter to eyeball the brown color on my worgen...and I think if I don't find a Madexx before I start Sambas huntin', I'm going to return for one. XD

[rhythm]

I ran into the green Madexx first, then I saw a thread w/ the blue one and I really like how it looks. However, I found the brown one and not any other color, and I tamed it. It's Madexx and honestly it can be rainbow colored and no one beside me and a very select few hunters would blink an eye at it. Point being, it's special to ME and the fact that's it IS Madexx is important to me, not that it's not a snowflake.

[rhythm]

My 2 cent on the camping issue, me and my wife alternated camping on Arcturis for 3 days, about 16 hours a day before I finally tamed him. 1 killed 1 tamed by someone else and 1 by me. Camping is up to you, if you believe it's bothersome and do not enjoy it, let it be. Do a fly over and hope to get lucky. I don't enjoy people complaining about camp times while camping constantly for this or that. I do enjoy the wait and if I didn't I wouldn't complain about it, I'd just not do it.

[Novikova]

My take on it is this:

1) Yes, I've met good people and gotten stuff done while camping. That said, my WoW time is playtime. Not Novi parked on her butt hoping not to be griefed/beaten to/miss out on a spawn. It does after all, only take around 10 seconds to miss a pet.

2) Why do we camp? Because we *want* that pet very badly. I only camp for the ones I *want*. Perhaps old age and post-Vanilla burnout taught me that doing out of habit on an MMO is not very healthy. I do it when I *want*. I *wanted* Madexx and Aotona very much. Same with King K and many others. Sometimes you get lucky and snag them on a flyby. But more often than not, you have to sit and look.

3) Even with a good camp, a griefer or clueless goober can still wander by and ruin your day. Few things are as heartbreaking as sitting for hours and hours to have someone snag the tame or kill it under you. Take Madexx, the TH rares or the Basin rares. All in a busy (Or formerly busy) area and remember all the stories of 'lol just totally killed this rare'. Whoops.

So depending on your luck, you can spend YEARS looking for a pet or bumble onto it. Which is ... kinda lousy if you think about it. As far as the 'I want it to be special and others must camp for it too!11!!' ... well, look at how many rare spawns are pets in your local capital city. And I really bet their biscuits get steamed on remembering that epic ground riding used to be 1k gold. Leave the common Madexx be and his rare brown counterpart. I like my bronze madexx. She's got 'tude.

[Kokiron]

A lot of the time a normal skinned mob is actually more 'rare' than it's actual rare cousins. The tawny lions in the Barrens are a good example of this; I see black and white lions all over the place but rarely if ever see a brown one unless you count Sambas. Plain cats are getting harder to come by, too. Seems like everyone is running around with Sambas or some type of hunchbacked cat.

I do like my rares though, so far I've got: Jadefang, Loque, Skoll, Gondria, Arcturis, Aotona, Terrorpene, Madexx (Green), Ghostcrawler, Karoma, Olm, and Sambas. Dem spirit beasts man, one for every day of the week almost if I decide to run BM (which I probably will in raids, in 5 mans Surv's AoE is just too much to let go of rofl).

My hunter's been 85 for like 6 days...I have no life >_>

[Xella]

As I go for the look of the pet more than the origin of the pet (and I always feel guilty walking around with a rare pet because of NPCscan and the cache), having a common version of the pet available always makes me happy—I'll always go for the common over the rare, if I can manage it (though if the rare's a low level rare and I'm not high enough for the common yet, I'll grab that instead).

Unfortunately (for that system, anyway) a lot of the really nifty looking pets ARE rares (I go for bold, bright colours, so Skoll and Krush are on my list, while pets like Sambas and Loque are not). I don't find camping enjoyable (even less so when there are things—like my 11 remaining archaeology finds—I haven't done yet that require me to do other stuff in-game but sit around tabbed out), but (with the exception of spirit beasts) there are not-as-attractive other options so if I HAVE to have a certain pet species for a buff/debuff, I can grab an interim pet.

Madexx is a special problem, and I'm not entirely thrilled with the way he's handled (even though I have no personal interest in him). If each spawn point guaranteed a specific colour instead of him being random, or if (like other rares) he only had one colour available, I think that would be fine—but finding Madexx only to have him be the wrong Madexx seems like excessive heartbreak to me. In the former case, even though you'd be waiting around for a long time (if other Madexxes spawned and they shared a spawn timer, which would be likely), you would know that the colour you wanted was the one that spawned in, say, the most northeastern location, so you would know where to get your hopes up at. In the latter, well, he'd be like every other rare spawn with a unique/semi-unique skin at that point, which I suppose I'd be okay with too.

[Holgarr]

If each spawn point guaranteed a specific colour instead of him being random, I think that would be fine - but finding Madexx only to have him be the wrong Madexx seems like excessive heartbreak to me. Even though you'd be waiting around for a long time (if other Madexxes spawned and they shared a spawn timer, which would be likely), you would know that the colour you wanted was the one that spawned in, say, the most northeastern location, so you would know where to get your hopes up at.

This is how they should've done it. Madexx has, what, five different spawnpoints? Well, since the Venomscale Spitter already is the Brown skin, cut Madexx's spawnpoint number to four, assign a color to each point (say, Red for north, Blue for west, Black for south, Green for east), and voila. Each skin has a specific point, the browns are still accounted for, and all are happy. No more camping for days hoping your color is the next to appear and that you're in the right spot to grab it - just wait at the spot your desired color will spawn at. (I'll be waiting on the East.)

Hey, we already know Madexx has no purpose other than as a cool hunter pet, so why not simplify things a bit so hunters can actually GET that cool pet?

[ummeiko]

If a rare that I like has a common counterpart, there's a good chance I will tame the rare. It's just how I am - I've been a rare hunter for years. I like the thrill of it.

That said, if I have a rare, I'm not going to go out of my way to be a jerk with it. Nine times out of ten, it will be renamed and I'm not going to afk on the spawn point.

HOWEVER, neither will I tiptoe around other players with it because it might set off NPCscan. I personally don't see a reason to add that sort of self-imposed rule to my game play. I mean heck, I could be camping a spawn on my hunter and never leave that spot, but most of the time I'm going to have to reset the cache the minute I log on to my bank alt. Or do a by, or tol barad. It's just a side effect of using the mod. I don't think it should keep me from enjoying my pets.

[Novikova]

Yeah, but it's obnoxious when someone runs around the spawn points with it out, especially if they kept the pet's name the same. That said, whatever floats your boat - it's just annoying and slightly thoughtless. Anyone who expects people NEVER to have their rares out? Is rude. Anyone who runs around the spawn points with it? Also rude, but more thoughtless.

[Bryndell]

Yeah, but it's obnoxious when someone runs around the spawn points with it out, especially if they kept the pet's name the same.

When I was camping Skoll there was a hunter who tamed him,kept his name,and kept pulling him out at the spawns. I was so annoyed. I armoried him, and he has most all the rares, with their wild names. SOOOOOO frustrating.

[Gimlion]

Meh, I like naming alot of rares after their Wild Namesl... Mostly because I can't think of the pet without thinking about the specific mob, so no name is more fitting. The whole running through Spawns with them out though, that's just being a tool.

[Sasrei]

Ive never named a rare after its wild name, mostly cause like in any adoption you get a choice to change the name and I prefer to name it something that has meaning to me. Most of my rares I were hunting have names I already picked out for them so thats what I was calling them while hunting them.. Sambas was Mathias and Sendai from the start, and Karoma was Honshu fro mthe start. Ever since I got that one scare.. camping Sambas.. npcscanner goes off.. red dot ! Named Sambas.. at the right spot and its a hunters pet.. oppossite faction your pet is a red dot and if you dont have track hunamoids on or if hes far away you dont notice.. so I parked right next to him and popped out all my rares to make myself feel better he was not amused but neither was I.

[Novikova]

Yeah, that's one reason why. I don't care if people like to use the wild names (Though I've been tempted to brain people with LOQUENAHAK type names - ease off the caps lock there, Captain Cool. Even with cruise control you still gotta steer). Some people love to be jerknoids. :/ That can't be helped. But I would never expect anyone to not use a pet because it's rare. Just ... don't sit at the spawn points with its wild name. Then you set off tracking, macros AND mods.