TAMABLE HYDRAS? (patch 4.1 on PTR, no tamables found yet)

[Miseration]

Has anyone heard anything on this as of late? Any of you PTR players? I'm nervous I won't get to tame a hydra.

[TygerDarkstorm]

I'm pretty sure that if something had been changed for them to be tamable, you would have seen this thread blow up again.

[Miseration]

I'm pretty sure that if something had been changed for them to be tamable, you would have seen this thread blow up again.

True enough, I registered to ask . I guess me and Reptar(King Krush) will continue to eat people in Cata. TY

[TygerDarkstorm]

I have a feeling we won't see them for a couple of patches or so.

[Cialbi]

Well, it is worth asking if anything has changed or not. I would be shocked if 4.1.0 went live with the ghost hydras being their own unique but half-finished pet family.

P.S. Stick around, Miseration, and join the community! Nice choice for an avatar, btw.

[TygerDarkstorm]

I wouldn't be surprised if the ghost hydra reverts back to a hydralisk for 4.1. I mean, deep down I'm hoping for them to secretly make hydras tamable when the patch comes out, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

[zedxrgal]

Here is the way I personally see it:
Someone on MMO saw/heard/etc something they truly didn't, was caught and it was removed or they played a vicious joke.

Here are my views of what could happen because of the above:

A) Blizzard will make them tamable because of the uproar by the posting on MMO and heaven forbid they look bad and have the whole hunter community even more bitterly pissed at them.

B) Blizzard says they don't care what was on MMO and Hydras will not be tamable now or ever so hush it.

C) Blizzard is sneakily working on making them tamable and someone let the cat, or would that be Hydra, out of the bag so now follow through will happen they just want to make us wait it out and writhe THEN release them once all hope is truly lost in our eyes.

D) Blizzard is still thinking it over, having many many meetings on the matter, completely going back and forth fillibustering it over and over again never reaching a decision the going "oops sorry hunters. We forgot to make up our minds".

Yep. Thats how I see it. )
I have give up but secretly hope A) will happen.

[Cialbi]

I would agree, except that even without MMO-C posting this info in the first place instead of posting and then changing their mind, this thread would have been created eventually. Why? Some Petopian would eventually notice that their ghost hydra pet had a new icon and pet family on the PTR, get really excited and create a thread just like this one.

[Kurasu]

What worries me is that the ghost hydra is not the first pet that they made into a 'vanity pet', for various reasons. So IMO, while I'm praying not, it's not completely impossible that they are just going to look at the whole thing and go 'This isn't working. We'll leave it for later.'. Witness: Sandfury Guardians. Witness: Garwal. Something was eventually done, yes, but not before a period of time.

I don't *want* to think my primary PVP pet will become just a shiny vanity pet to eat up a space in my stable, but it's starting, to me, to look more and more like this is what they've done. Unless 4.1 is released quite a while later, they'll be going into code-freeze soon (if they haven't already) and with that, major changes like the hydras will have to wait until 4.2, or later.

[Redith]

I don't *want* to think my primary PVP pet will become just a shiny vanity pet to eat up a space in my stable, but it's starting, to me, to look more and more like this is what they've done. Unless 4.1 is released quite a while later, they'll be going into code-freeze soon (if they haven't already) and with that, major changes like the hydras will have to wait until 4.2, or later.

But if they are just going to make it a vanity pet why havent they touched the slimes? Surely they wouldnt go
"Ok those who have the Hydras lets make them not fight and just have them be pretty, the slimes? Eh just let them still be useable"

That makes no sence. I still have high hopes ONLY because of that whole Hydras-have-their-own-icon-and-name thing. I dont see blizz putting fourth that effort for nothing.

[Solunerra]

I am just glide they did not get menchen on April fool's day.

[Redith]

I am just glide they did not get menchen on April fool's day.

I was thinking about making a post saying they were tameable...but I was afraid someone would eat my soul through the internet

[Slickrock]

Well, if they do, I hope it's with a decent special. We need an another AOE pet, and a three-headed water lizard is an ideal candidate...

[Wark]

Well, if they do, I hope it's with a decent special. We need an another AOE pet, and a three-headed water lizard is an ideal candidate...

No. They need to stay FIFTY YARDS AWAY from AoE pet design at ALL TIMES or so help me I will get a restraining order. Have you tried to use a Chimaera lately? If the stars don't align PERFECTLY, it's worthless. Worms are better but still pretty bad: gotta have your pet in the right spot, then it does a long channel, and @#$% help you if you click the wrong thing or the tank moves the mobs. It's all the clunkiness of Blizzard or Flamestrike, only with bonus delay/unresponsiveness because you have to route your intentions through your pet!

We need to stop having AoE pets, if anything. I'd rather that they move the damage onto something that's less difficult and irritating to use. I'm actually quite put out that two of my preferred families have one useful ability, and then one that's 95-100% useless and a massive headache on top of it. It's not a good sign that when the few situations where I want their Exotic ability arise, I groan.

Not to mention giving them AoE would almost certainly lock them into the exotic family. There's enough families "wasted" by making them BM-only, we don't need more-- and I say that as a full-time BM hunter.


Still juggling this thread juuuust enough that I have to keep coming back to click and make sure Lirlelnan is stuck in limbo....

[TygerDarkstorm]

I agree with not needing another AoE pet. The ones we have are incredibly clunky to use and we're not even supposed to be AoEing as much in this expansion anyway (I'm aware that certain encounters are designed to be AoE fests). I often find that in standard dungeons, single targeting mobs down is more preferable than AoEing (unless I'm SV with serpent spread).

[Cialbi]

Wark, have you used a chimaera recently? When 4.0.1 came out, Froststorm Breath was horribly broken; high chance of your pet expending all that focus and just sitting there channeling a phantom ability. At some point, it was hotfixed; now, when you use Froststorm Breath, it will be cast unless your pet lacks the focus or is incapacitated/stunned/silenced/etc. Yes, it will cast out of combat, while moving, and your chimaera will happily keep flying while channeling the ability, meaning that once again hunter pets are the worst enemy of rogues in PvP

If we were to have Hydras with an AoE attack that was as potent of an aggro magnet as Burrow Attack was pre-Shattering...

[Wain]

But if they are just going to make it a vanity pet why havent they touched the slimes? Surely they wouldnt go
"Ok those who have the Hydras lets make them not fight and just have them be pretty, the slimes? Eh just let them still be useable"

I don't think it's about them deliberately crippling the ghost hydra or, as you say, they would have done the slime as well.

It's a matter of them partially completing a hydra family, moving the ghost hydra to it, and then not finishing it. I think it's more crippled through lack of completion than by design.

[Solunerra]

Well, if they do, I hope it's with a decent special. We need an another AOE pet, and a three-headed water lizard is an ideal candidate...

No. They need to stay FIFTY YARDS AWAY from AoE pet design at ALL TIMES or so help me I will get a restraining order. Have you tried to use a Chimaera lately? If the stars don't align PERFECTLY, it's worthless. Worms are better but still pretty bad: gotta have your pet in the right spot, then it does a long channel, and @#$% help you if you click the wrong thing or the tank moves the mobs. It's all the clunkiness of Blizzard or Flamestrike, only with bonus delay/unresponsiveness because you have to route your intentions through your pet!

We need to stop having AoE pets, if anything. I'd rather that they move the damage onto something that's less difficult and irritating to use. I'm actually quite put out that two of my preferred families have one useful ability, and then one that's 95-100% useless and a massive headache on top of it. It's not a good sign that when the few situations where I want their Exotic ability arise, I groan.

Not to mention giving them AoE would almost certainly lock them into the exotic family. There's enough families "wasted" by making them BM-only, we don't need more-- and I say that as a full-time BM hunter.


Still juggling this thread juuuust enough that I have to keep coming back to click and make sure Lirlelnan is stuck in limbo....

I respectably disagree. the worms AoE is really nice when slowing. helps them hold AoE agro. The cheamria can be used to AoE well as they made it limitless and I have also found it is nice in pvp with stealth rogues.

[Cialbi]

Burrow Attack has been 'hiding' your pets aggro (think of how Shadowmeld works) since the Shattering; it's now a purely DPS ability.

[Solunerra]

Dose it now. Well one with a hydra could still be nice. to have a dps spec pet over a utility or tanking pet.