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EDITED: 6/21/11

Thank you all who provided feedback about this. After much research and testing, I'm confirming the PetAbandon() method of taming any sort of appearance buff pet is gone for good.

And with it goes many shinies.....
Congrats! If you have one, you are now the owner of a so called "retired" pet.

APPEARANCE BUFF PETS NO LONGER OBTAINABLE

* Akkarai Hatchling (Shadow Owl)
* Ashmane Boars (Pinkish Aura)
* Blighthound (Green Aura)
* Deviate Plainstrider (Sparkly fireworks coming out of butt)
* Felscale Crawlers (Greenish Yellow glow)
* Fern Feeder Moth (Tiny Butterflies flying around it)
* Fire Rocs (Flames on wingtips)
* Ghostpaw Runners (Ghostwolf form)
* Icepaw Bears (Blue Glow on paws)
* Infested Bears (Spider Eggsac Buff)
* Rabid Worg / Diseased Elwynn Wolves (Green/poisoned skulls floating around)
* Searing Rocs (Flames to wingtips)
* Silt Crawler (Holdiing a Bottle)
* Vicious Teromoth (Dark Green Aura)
* The Tainted beasts: Bat, Bear, Spider (Yellow/Green Glow)
* Princess (Boar with Ribbon)
* Spiteflayer (Flaming yellow heads) (rare)
* Emberwing (Flaming Wings) (rare)
* Icehorn (Glowing Blue Rhino) (rare)

Did I miss any? If so please inform me so I can add them to the list!

Also, if you happen to have one of these shiny beasts, take a moment before you consider abandoning it for something shinier in the upcoming patches. You'll never be able to get it back. O_o
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Hun, you're not supposed to tame damage-dealing buffs anyway. That's against ToS. We at Petopia tame just appearance buffs.

Either way, just because it hasn't worked for you doesn't mean it's not doable. You need patience. It took me a day to get the fire boar. Why? I had to get help and have the timing just right.

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I'm pretty sure it's fixed, I can only tame certain ones with the revive exploit ( flaming boar ) and the rest of the time, I revive them and they come back normal.
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blue post back on dec 13, http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/?page=38
It is no longer possible for hunters to tame pets in a way that allows them to keep any buffs the creatures had on them prior to being tamed.
maybe it just now kicked in

i tried the /script PetAbandon() macro method on several of the aura pets, they were all permanently abandoned, even tried logging out immediately after on a few tames, nada.

went to borean tundra to try the death tame. using serpent sting on the oil covered wolves or immolation trap on the fledglings. couldnt get the right combination of gear to kill them just as the tame ends. serpent sting method is much harder now since it almost always shoots an auto shot, even when hitting esc at the same time i fire of my serpent sting. gave up after about 20 tries.

the wolf might still work if you're on the quest since you can time it better.

the flaming boar would prob still work since its also timed. took me about 30 tries to get him back during the shattering. not sure i wanna try it again lol.
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How To: Tame Pets With Appearance Buffs
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7093
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8976&p=193596#p193596

If you're having trouble getting abilities to stay on your pet's bar, try one of these methods:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8976&p=213033#p213033
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10251&p=213038#p213038

The official word regarding these pets from our resident lurker dev Noah (paraphrased):
- Any retained features that are actual buffs are a definite no-no. Anything that affects class balance by buffing your pet is out.
- For anything that just affects cosmetics/appearance, you have to use your best judgement. If another player could conceivably get upset because it somehow affects gameplay - making it difficult to target, obscuring vision, (maybe looking like a worgen player? ) etc. then the upset player could conceivably report it and the pet would most likely be taken away. It's very unlikely anyone would get banned and it wouldn't be very nice if they were. If you did get banned over a purely cosmetic buff, he said to mention it. If it's just a little blue aura or something that you use for pve or solo or wehatever, it's highly unlikely anyone will care.

Addendum from Wain, our resident liaison:
Then again if you already had a pet removed because the cosmetic buff was causing issues that made players report it, and you went and did exactly the same thing again, I imagine you'd be treated with less sympathy

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I find it highly unlikely that this taming method was removed, since Noah just had us look for possible exploits involving the new challenge pets on the PTR via this taming method. (So far, we've had no "luck.")

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And thus is also one of the reasons I quoted your post in the resource thread. :D

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*nodnods to Tyger* I'm just adding that regardless of what was said in the past, this request came in a few days ago, so it's all still current. :)

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i just looked at wain's post, he said noah said all ptr exploits should be "fixed" and he wanted to encourage us to try the exploit tames.

could be read two ways, either they are putting a stop to the aura exploits or if they missed any its free game.
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The OP didn't say this was on the PTR, so even if there was a fix implemented, it wouldn't be on live. It's also possible that the block isn't on all "buffed" pets, but only the ones without an exploitable buff.

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Thank you guys for providing feedback about this. I would also like to make it clear that my intentions were not to encourage the taming of damage-dealing buffed pets to use as an advantage, but to test the theory. I suppose I should have asked for people to test the taming of the "lose-buff-on-death" beasts such as the spiritform wolves in ashenvale, or the sparkly tallstriders in the barrens. I appologize for the misunderstanding.

So far, it appears no one has successfully tamed the "lose-buff-on-death" beasts since the posting of this, so I am still sticking with my theory that they have removed this method, until proven otherwise.

If you can, please go out and test this method and tell me how it went. This could be the end of many sparkly pets. *Icepaw bear, icehorn, misty boar, crabs with bottles, sparkly tallstriders, ghostwolves, etc, etc...*
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Kalliope wrote:The OP didn't say this was on the PTR, so even if there was a fix implemented, it wouldn't be on live. It's also possible that the block isn't on all "buffed" pets, but only the ones without an exploitable buff.
basically what i said in both my posts

there was a supposed fix on live servers dec 13th. didn't seem to implemented at all. been seeing a lot of posts about not being able to tame these aura pets with the macro method recently. thats why i said maybe the fix was finally implemented now and that the oil covered wolf quest and the flaming boar quest may still be tamable since they are timed and not abandoned to keep the auras.

i've also had a few ppl on my server recently (this past week) saying they were having trouble taming a few of these aura pets.
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Forgive the skepticism, Nightsights, since we're been getting reports all along about this method being removed, when in actuality, people just weren't succeeding at the tame. That fix may have gone in, but if so, why ask specifically about the new rares and not put out a general inquiry for the live players to test as well?

*shrug* I could be totally off with this, and if so, I apologize, but just trying not to jump to conclusions here. :)

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I just spent like 30-40 minutes trying the oil-wolves and hawks with no dice. I'm not sure if my timing's just off or something though. Taking a break from it since it's a little frustrating to see no results. XD

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Looks like someone's had some luck today: http://forums.wow-petopia.com/viewtopic ... &start=160 (check the last post) :)

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Yes, that was me, and I used the revive method ( sorry I didn't mention it in the other post ) but I can't get my abandon macro to work, at all.
I was late to the hunter scene, so it's never worked for me, but the revive method / timed method(s) have worked.

I have the Armored Boar / Oiled Fledgeling / Oil-stained Wolf / Ghostly cacaw bird thingy so far, I've tried the abandon script method, and it seems like it SHOULD of worked like 3/4 of the times I did it, it just never did.

EDIT: I did them all solo as well, as a fem orc hunter, so they definitely are doable solo.
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Mmm, gotcha. Well, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. ;) At least one method still works.

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Let me remind people I believe only the *tame beast ---> dismiss ---> tame buffed beast ---> PetAbandon()* method has been fixed.

Let me also remind you that I believe only the "lose-buff-on-death" pets have become unobtainable as of now. Please feel free to prove me wrong.

I will continue to encourage people to attempt these tames, such as the bottleholding crabs or sparkly tallstriders, using only the PetAbandon() method, until I can officially confirm it works or not. Thank you again for the feedback.
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I hate to say but I fear there may be some truth in this. All of my trick-tames have used the /script PetAbandon() macro (remember my rhino?) and most had been successful first time. However I had just recently tried to help a friend get the sword-head wolf but had it fail for both of us continually.
I will continue to try personally but I admit I too have doubts now.

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I can also add input that the PetAbandon method isn't looking too promising. I've spent 15-30 minutes on it way up in the Tundra on the wolves and hawks. Sometimes I'm too slow, sometimes the pet will run to my side and vanish, sometimes the pet will run back to its first place as if the tame failed and vanish.

Is number of slots any relevance, by the way? Since this is my 82 hunter, she's got 4 slots. (I haven't got my 5th yet.)

Edit: Working on the death-revive method right now. Stupid birds keep dying. Need more haste. D:
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