The New 10 Rares (edited: for live)

[Fafnir]

Thanks to everyone's help, got a bunch of IDs to share.

50815 Skarr (onyx cat)
50959 Karkin (black diamond crab)
54318 Ankha (white spectral tiger)
54319 Magria (blue spectral tiger)
54320 Ban'thalos (green spectral owl)
54321 Solix (orange fire spider)
54322 Deth'tilac (blurple fire spider)
54323 Kirix (green fire spider)
54324 Skitterflame (red fire spider)
54338 Anthriss (yellow fire spider)

[Sasrei]

Nice! ty Faf!

[Kalliope]

Gonna put up some pics here for Sas's use in the first post to give extra coverage to each of the pets. This post will be edited.

[Sasrei]

awesome!! thank you! ill edit those into my post for sure!

[Kalliope]

No problem! I'll get the other two in a bit; crashed last night before finishing.

[Sasrei]

awesome! I sent you some new pics to if you need em

[Kalliope]

I've finally gotten what seems to be the legit way of taming Kirix down!

Sorry, no screenshots, as there was another hunter around trying to tame him from the rock at the same time....without a corehound. x_x Needless to say, that didn't work too well for him.

Prep Work 1: Go survival spec with 2/2 Mirrored Blades. Nothing else in the spec matters, though obviously the stamina boost helps.
Prep Work 2: Turn on Aspect of the Wild.
Step 1: Head west from Dante's area to meet Kirix. As long as you do not have a cliff at your back, you'll be fine. I chose to head up to about the halfway point.
Step 2: Engage Kirix. I personally used Tame Beast, since it didn't seem to matter what I opened with.
Step 3: When you get knocked back, hit Disengage at the height of the knockback. (I am kicking myself for not trying this in the first place on that first tame.)
Step 4: When you land, immediately hit Deterrence, pop a haste pot (or if you're a troll, berserking, which is what I did here), and start taming. When Kirix casts his toxin, he'll stun himself due to your reflection! Optionally, if you have Mirror of Broken Images, pop that here as well before starting your tame.
Step 5: Hug your new glowspider.

So there you have it, kids: another option for taming Kirix.

[Kalliope]

Got the last two pics for ya, Sas!

[Kurenio]

There is an easier strat for Kirix. I've done it twice now and it's not reliant on haste at all.

1. Stand on skarr's old rock
2. hit tame
3. When he starts to cast the almighty YOUR DEAD SPELL. Jump and hit deterrence.
4. Hit tame immediately again.

If done right you should get the tame of just before the next almight your dead spell.

Also for skitter if you happen to be MM you can do all 3 traps back to back with readiness.

[Sasrei]

Jump? Jump off the rock or just jump up and hit detterence?

mmhmm MM is nice

[Kalliope]

That still takes some amount of gear/base haste to pull off, though, or you'll get a second cast. >_>

[Kurenio]

Jump? Jump off the rock or just jump up and hit detterence?

mmhmm MM is nice

Just jump to break tame beast

[Kalliope]

Quickie update - the disengage method for taming Kirix can actually be done without a pot or even survival spec if you have enough haste on your gear! Well, and the TB trinket. I *barely* made it, but I didn't die and one-shot the tame. I think my trinket kicked me over with the added nature resist. So happy right now; I won't have to respec for him on live!

[Lethotix]

ya'll are making these strats way to complicated

kirix - stand either on the 2nd floating rock from the top on ur way to Fireplum Peak or on the ledge of FPP and the Furnace, tame beast pull(range check tb) det and tb again, u dont need any disengage strat, resist trinkets, respecing or jumping to stop tame beast as hitting det will do it for ya...

Skarr and Karkin...its only 2 buttons ss and tb /done - no pre tb and then ss and tb again, just a waste of time

Deth - you can abandon a dead pet

not one of the 10 new rares require any outside help or additional buffs dont waste ur time with corehound heroisms speed pots or haste stacking

[Sasrei]

Leth.. all these strats do get tweaked, and many were created in the early stages of the ptr so of course things with the rares got tweaked here and there with each and every build. They were changed and the way we attempted to tame them also changed.

for kirix, the second strat is if people want a challenge. Thats why I added it in, its the original strat because some people felt the rock strat was to easy and wanted another strat that they could sucessfully tame Kirix but with more challenge. And geez if kirix is really as easy as hitting tame beast, detterence then tame beast its not really a challenge anymore is it. The haste itself is for just a piece of mind, the faster the cast speed the less likely that something will come your way and essentially kill you

skarr and karkin, dont really see the difference.. hit tb, SS, then tb but before he used to not attempt to even use his stun before tame beast. This was just to make sure he was silenced and the detterence for the constant lava rocks that he uses just incase you have low health or are getting beat on by a rock (they have an annoying huge agro radius geez)

Deth- it used to be glitched on the ptr cause alot of people who I was talking to said they could not abandon their pet when it was dead. Thankfully I am guessing that was fixed and ill edit that for sure ^.^

with that.. outside help can cause more trouble unless your on the same page, its to help you get your rare faster. For instance the more sacfrifices for deth the lower the health she goes the faster you get her to the right tame. Skitterflame an extra trap if you break yours is really nice. On my server we help each other alot with rares which is why things can either go smoother or worse. The extra haste no matter what is useful, and corehound is needed if you do not have MM spec for Skarr/Karkin. His lava breath ability is essential to taming them in BM spec and the heroism to.

I am not one to agree with just having a 5 second tame cast cause where is the fun in that really but if you do have extra haste gear laying around why not use every extra boost to help you sucessfully tame them. They may be a challenge, but with them being in populated zones the more edge you have the better.. you may only get one shot before other hunters come in.

[deadpuppies]

Going to put this as simple as possible. I was testing rares in ptr. I just happened to bump into Lethotix on more then one ocasion and we gained a mutual respect for eachother. This guy has invested several respectable hours into rare tames. So I am going to give him credit for the things that I learned while practicing with him--Hence Dethtalic will be named Lethotix on my server as it is in ptr.

That said any hunter that needs help from a potion, or outside mechanic other then simple hunter ability is a wuss and barely deserves their ranged weapon,..much less their rare tame.
These are "challenge tames" developed for the hunter to earn something based on raw skill No borrowed buffs just Balls!

Every new pet tame is able to be tamed without help. Please stop crying about buffs and haste etc. Basic hunter abilites are all that are needed.

Im not delivering any strats except to my team at this point, and each member will have to solo tame their pets. If I see a flask, buff or help other then cross faction muscle to "ward off ninjas" i will scatter shot their tames and the tames of any other hunter I see my damn self. There are no wuss hunters in the H.U. of Skullcrusher.

Word to the wise some of the pets are made to be tamed easily by a spec speciffic hunter. Figure it out or add me and we will place you on rotation. If you happend to get to the camp first we will step aside heads up.

[GormanGhaste]

any hunter that needs help is a wuss and barely deserves their ranged weapon

Please stop crying.

As a newcomer to posting here, you are probably not knowledgeable of our forum policies. Debate is welcome, but please treat everyone here with respect. Name-calling is inappropriate, as we wish to maintain a polite and friendly environment.

[Kalliope]

A tamed pet is a successfully tamed pet. Yes, all of the challenge tames can be soloed, but that doesn't mean they have to be.

Taming elitism is ridiculous. "Your pet is less worth because you didn't tame it solo." BS. If outside help/gear/whatever was a requirement for these tames, then they would be phased or otherwise untouchable by other players while the hunter is taming.

It's wonderful that you find it important to rise to the "true challenge" of the challenge tames, but please don't storm in here and insist that everyone else does it the same way. They don't tell you how to play either.

[Sasrei]

Wow.. really? Is that really necessary? These tames are made easier by the HELP from the community as awhole, do specific specs help? Heck yes they do. And I have been on the ptr testing these rares along with others since it was announced that they have 8 new rares coming out. I have tamed them on numerous servers, testing out different ways to tame to them, and helping people out along the way. I would rather help someone get a rare with the strat or us thinking of new ways to tame them, then just taking every single rare spawn. Having more perspectives, and different skill levels has helped me to tweak my strats alot.

Can you tame these guys solo? Yes, and infact most of them require it, just because misscommunication can result in a dead rare. But to call people a wuss because maybe they are having some sort of trouble, and someone is nice enough to help them please dont insult them. I actually think its extremely nice when people go out of their way to help someone get something they enjoy instead of the jerks that I have come across who just want to either kill it, steal your tame or kill you. Deth takes quite awhile to get low enough in health, not alot of people would be so kind to sit and watch you kite deth countless times for 8-10 mins each. Even if you have great kiting skills, her evading sucks. Skill will not prevent your rare getting killed on you. Extra haste or a mutal respect from others there will help. Do I promote the use of extra haste? Not really no. Its more fun without it, but alot more nerve wrecking.

It is based on raw skill, but its also based on knowing the strats, clearing the area ahead of the time for specific rares (like Deth, Skitter and Anny) and alot of things can go wrong that has nothing at all to do with skill.

What you do on your server is your on perrogative. All I am trying to do is help people to know the strats. These rares require knowing the strat, skill and heck even luck to tame. And I know about what specs are needed for what rare I have a few test dummies I mean.. uhh.. sweet people on each server giving me the heads up to. The thing is these rares keep getting tweaked, what worked before may not work now, they may get buffed or nerfed. Which is why its nice for people of every skill working on them. No matter I will ALWAYS promote unity in the hunter community, if someone asks for my help to tame a rare. I will glady do everything I can to help them. Though I do think people should attempt these guys solo just becuase on live you may not have a helping hand and knowing you can do it, is the biggest boost of all.

[deadpuppies]

I dont want to be misunderstood. I have the utmost respect for any hunter that atempts a solo tame without a "carry" from a gazillion non hunter class buddies. While testing on ptr I ran into several hunters with their entourage in tow. "Really 3 druids, 2 Pallys, and a partridge in a pear tree lending their buffs? Ganking me mid tame? So that I can run back to my corpse and see them fail anyway despite their pots LoL???"
It was Actually fun to watch them all get 1--2 shotted by Skarr to run back and see me finishing off the successful tame...only for the hunter to make a horde toon and ask me how??? "Really--didnt u and your buds just gank me??"

The Grouping of these types of hunters with entourage in tow trying to bully past the very point of these "challenge tames" is lost completly and is somewhat a smack in the face to the blizz developers of the hunter challenge in my opinion. Dont we want them to keep making things exciting?
challenging?
Thats my main point really. And in my post I said that I would gladly step aside to any hunter that got to the camp first.

42 hunters in our H.U. are all wired that way on my server-- we all cooperate and help out fellow hunters--but carrys?? Nah--Hunters being carried in my opinion to tame a pet by a deifferent class buff, potion, etc. is very weak.

With all of the ability to test these rare challenge tames on ptr and all of the info on petopia/ Lethoix guild web page( which is being plugged discreatly just now btw)A hunter reeeeeeaaaally should be able to nab these pets solo and walk proud at the achievement of being able to do so without help. Otherwise where is the point in making them challenge tames??
Anyone can run into sfk at level 85 and own..anyone can solo pre wotlk dungeons etc. There is zero challenge. Disarming these challenges with non hunter help is kind of a waste if you ask me. Sorry if anyone was offended by me calling that type of hunter a wuss...but that type of hunter has yet to exist because this hasnt gone live yet..we will find out if they exist at all in a few days...so no one should be offended

With that said if you are out there to each their own I guess. I was just excited that blizz did something for hunters and didnt want that to get disarmed/wasted/pointless. Taming a pet should be more then pointing and pressing a button--just my opinion.