How to deal with "Rare Hunter" guildies?

[Wark]

Saying you CAN'T leave is what's going to enable him to continue griefling you in any way he can come up with. Pretty much the first rule of abuse is that it can only persist if the victim believes they can't escape/leave. (Aside: your assertion that the other jerks in the guild are tolerable because they "are only in it to grief horde" (aka: someone else) definitely gave me a squick moment. Griefing is okay as long as it's someone else being targeted?)

In any event: it doesn't sound like this fellow is someone who can be reasoned out of being the social equivalent of a syphilis infection. Your most realistic options are probably counter-griefing and/or getting the heck away to happier places not infested with people who have a negative modifier to their Empathy check. Either way, I wish you luck. It's not a fun position to be in.

[Royi]

But when I left, despite the people I miss dearly, I felt a weight off my shoulders and my conscience was clear. No more stress over retards. I now run A Home For Every Madexx and I'm also an officer of Positive and I'm quite content. We got A LOT of hunters in Positive so griefing is a huge no no(atleast 3 or 4 of them are hunters or have hunter alts).

Glad that you worked it out, annoying people are annoying, and having annoying people in guilds makes guilds annoying. Plus regardless of what someone does to "Random ___ of opposing faction", when its regarding another guildie they NEED to treat them with equal respect and honor. Guildies should treat ALL guildies with respect


~Rathidion~
Yeah, I think if its disturbing you this much you need to consult the GM about it. There should be something worked out, maybe a warning or whatever, officer or not. Something needs to be done besides "oh just dont do it again" or you should leave.

[Kalliope]

No matter how much you love your current guild, if the officership at large condones anyone in the guild (officer or not) treating fellow guildies that way, then it seems like it might be time to leave, since their goals don't mesh with yours.

[GormanGhaste]

I know I wouldn't stay in a guild that had someone like that in it, much less one that made him an officer. But if you do stay, you could always put him on your ignore list, and publicly recommend the same choice to other guildies.

[lilaughingwolf]

An officer should NEVER speak to a fellow guild member that way, it is not right for anyone to do it but for an officer (even a Jr. one) is really distastful. A guild like that, freinds or not is not a respectful guild. I left a guild I totaly loved due to people and thier disrespectful comments, it was upsetting at first but I still talk to and even help those I remain freinds with...includeing that GM...but I'll never go back to the guild. I love love love the one Im in now, I even started raiding again (from time to time..lol...not a huge raider)

[SgtMakkie]

Just had similar issue in my rift guild, which lead to me voting with my feet. If people can't be mature and respectful to you as a fellow player and guild isn't prepared to act, there is no other option but to leave. By staying you accept the behaviour and the way the guild works.

Today I had to slap someone for their disgusting racist comments, only to have the guild leader tell me to just ignore him…??? Er, sorry I can't do that. I logged at that point to get dinner and told the guild leader I was questioning my presence in the guild if that is considered OK!?!

Later on I come back, explain to another officer and the culprit suddenly coughs up an excuse. I had already reported him to Trion for it and was expexting his butt to go skipping out the guild. After a few hours, nothing. Poke the officers some more, nothing. So I decided, fine I'm not sticking around where racisim is tolerated! What followed was best described as comical.

Stand by how you want to be treated and do not give an inch to anyone that acts inappropiately! Unfortuantely there will always be idiots like the officer, who make it their business to ruin peoples day. Good luck and i hope things work out.

[Mychelle]

Im just another person thats going to completely agree and stand by Jessibelle's earlier post and opinion. You play this game to have fun right? Why are you playing it in an atmosphere (even if that atmosphere has some of your friends in it) that still finds ways to upset you? I'd still speak with the Guild Leader about it, but...if nothing is done, just leave. You'll be alot happier. There is a zillion other chances with other guilds and other people that you can give a try.

Be happy, no matter what.

[Yaone]

Tell him to kill Kirix and be done with it.

[Lisaara]

But when I left, despite the people I miss dearly, I felt a weight off my shoulders and my conscience was clear. No more stress over retards. I now run A Home For Every Madexx and I'm also an officer of Positive and I'm quite content. We got A LOT of hunters in Positive so griefing is a huge no no(atleast 3 or 4 of them are hunters or have hunter alts).

Glad that you worked it out, annoying people are annoying, and having annoying people in guilds makes guilds annoying. Plus regardless of what someone does to "Random ___ of opposing faction", when its regarding another guildie they NEED to treat them with equal respect and honor. Guildies should treat ALL guildies with respect!

Agreed, completely. If you don't respect me, I sure as hell aint giving you the same if you're gonna be a jerk. :/

[Syleye]

I guess i'm lucky in regards to this, being the Gl i have made it clear that anyone killing the hunter rares or griefing a hunter trying to tame will get one warning then they're gone. I belive in respecting people and I expect my guild to do the same. Mind you that doesn't stop my guild mates from razzing me about my obssesion, but its all good natured and even brought a few of them into the hunter wolrd.

[Worba]

I tend to take a hard line approach.

As others have noted the first thing to do is report the a-hole and give the GM a chance to act like a GM.

If the GM instead takes a "boys will be boys" view, then think seriously about leaving. Because the alternative isn't easy nor is it usually pleasant.

BUT that said, I wouldn't view leaving as the ONLY option - after all, having one dipshit officer and one spineless GM does not a bad guild make (sure doesn't help though...); if there are other compelling reasons to stay such as friends, progression, guild status and so on, then why should you be the one to toss all that?

Turning the other cheek is worthy, but so is sticking around and giving the instigator a helping of his own dish - all depends on what you're up for. Sometimes a guild doesn't get better unless the problem refuses to go away and the GM either gets off his ass and addresses it, or steps down and nominates someone else who will.

[SgtSplacker]

I dunno I am really anti pain in the ass. If I even think someone is capable of causing me any grief I cut them out quick. It's a mission but finding a guild you really get along with is so rewarding. I like smaller guilds where the members are not so power hungry. Just people playing for fun and to pass the time. The fact that that guy even exists in your guild suggests an elitist element that is prevalent in these kind of games. They dont help anyone out make their little raid groups and dont care about anyone else in the guild. I dont have time for that...

[meepitco]

Adding my opinions here....if this board is still active

Gquitting isn't an option, because for the most part, I love my guildies.!

Yes, I can relate to you 10000%. I am in a casual raiding/leveling guild atm, and as a dedicated officer in my guild, I have made an irreplaceable friendship with our guild members. But, every guild has someone that will, and I truly mean WILL kill every rare that walks. First one sadly for me, was Arcturis who the majority of the guild knew I had been camping for a few weeks. There had also been a druid who, as well as this warrior, killed every rare that he saw. So, I am guessing you all know where this is going. In the end, I did end up telling the GM, and he was sadly, not kicked, but demoted from his spot. He still kills rares, and which none (thank the heavens and karma itself!) have been rare spirit beasts or beasts themselves.
Now, that was my story, and here is my opinion:
My opinion on this is to tell the GM a full story on what happened. That was the exact thing I did when the druid/dk killed Arty. He will hopefully get kicked, or demoted from his officer spot. If neither of those things happen, or GM doesn't believe you, leave. the. guild. I was lucky enough that my GM is herself a Hunter, but this was a wrath rare =/ By the time the warrior realizes that he had done something wrong, you would have left the guild, or he himself would have been kicked.
Good luck dealing with this, and I promise this will be one of my only swears, good luck dealing with this asshole. I would have switched my hunter horde in a heartbeat (or alliance, if you're horde) and camped him...and camped him....and camped him...

[vanquished14]

Man, the guy sounds real immature. I guess he feels like you're reprimanding him for killing something he really had every right to kill (the rare IS designed for hunters but anyone can fight them and kill them, regardless how immature doing so is). Honestly, I wouldn't have made a deal about it after he said he had killed. I'd point out it was a rare spawn designed for hunters to tame which is why it dropped no loot and leave it at that. He's probably a 12 yr old who can't handle feedback on his actions.

As far as leaving the guild, one person really isn't worth that. I'd put him on ignore and continue playing as you have been.

[Quiv]

I lost my temper once in general in the Molten Front over something like this. Someone killed one of the rares that another hunter was trying for, then hit up general to brag about it. The hunter in question was taking the troll bait hard, and I lost my cool.

I dont remember what I said specifically, but this class of player is absolutely the lowest in my book, and not worth the server space they are allotted. In this case specifically, the griefer was regurgitating outdated (and barely funny) internet memes, obviously couldn't create a unique or creative thought on their own, and it was obvious this particular act of griefing and bragging was a thinly veiled attempt to get attention.

There was some more involved, but I know I ended it by addressing the hunter and telling him that on the bright side, he now has a timer to work with, and that to completely dismiss everything the griefer was saying, as I am sure he was scrambling through his book of internet comebacks trying to find a meme to get the last word in, something along the lines of "Umad" or something else equally ignorant.

I dont condone what I did but I had enough. So mad I logged off soon after. those are the kind of people I wish I was on a pvp server for. I am obsessive enough to hunt down and camp someone for days, using the pets they were so happy they killed.

thats general. In a guild is a whole other ball of wax. plenty of wisdom here already about that though.

[Rathidion]

(Aside: your assertion that the other jerks in the guild are tolerable because they "are only in it to grief horde" (aka: someone else) definitely gave me a squick moment. Griefing is okay as long as it's someone else being targeted?)

This was a worry that I had when I made the other post. I reprimand these people just as much. However, we are on a PVP server, so an amount of animosity exists between factions. I am a firm believer in not griefing anyone, simply because I know that were I on the other side of the coin, my anger meter would shoot through the roof. In addition, none of them have ever had this amount of negativity or anger directed towards another guild mate.

On the brighter side of things, there has been a resolution!

My GM is very much into having guild members with cool things, such as mounts and pets. I've not only been commended for calling him out on his idiocy, but also he has recieved a warning. If he does either thing again (blows up at a guildy, or brags about killing something that someone else who is online wants... essentially guild griefing), he's got a guild kick aimed at him.

He won't talk to me though. Which sucks, since he's one of the guild's main tanks. His loss.

Thanks for all the great advice, Petopians!

[Morven]

Glad you got a reasonable resolution there!

[Sasrei]

Im glad it worked out!

Gquitting is something that should be the last resort, having one person ruin everything you worked hard for and the friendships you forged seems kinda extreme. Talk with all the officers and the GM, report him to an actual GM and you said something about protection right? Are you on pvp server? If you have a horde char you could always warn the others players about him, youd be surprised what hunters will do, and on Nes if you get a bad rep for killing rares alot of people will know about it and will watch for them (yes it freaky.. I know. But im the kinda person who always has an open slot just to hit tame beast on karkin/skarr to trigger there barrage ) and more and more people will put out tickets about that person and blizzard will have to do something about it.

Certain people need a swift kick in the butt to act like normal human beings, yes its pixels and isnt real life but did you just sit around hours to tame it? No. Have you camped for days checking to see if its up? No. Should I feel more special then you cause I camped for hours forr something to have you run up and kill it to laugh in my face? No. Why should it matter if its horde or alliance who tame it, it wont really affect anything except the fact that the person BEHIND the screen got something they really wanted. I dont know what kind of person gets sick joy off of making other people upset and heck ive seen people cry, but that person needs to stop playing a game with other human beings and stick to the computer controlled AI.

[meepitco]

I'm happy that it worked out for you ^-^ I'd personally report this person for Harassment, and Safety/Protection issues (if I am correct). remember, there will always be a ahole like that...always..

[Tufak]

That's the good thing about being the guild leader. I am a hunter, my main is a hunter, I raid on a different hunter, etc.

I've had guildies mention that they killed a rare spawn and I've told them, every time, to offer up in guild to see if any of the hunters are looking for it. Thankfully, they tend to say 'oh, okay' and have done so from then onward.

I've made it very clear that any member that purposely kills a rare spawn, especially during a tame, will be removed from the guild immediately.