none hunters trying to kill the spiders please go

[Demonium]

f yourselves.

doing a quick check of molten front before going to bed. 4 druids 2 hunters and a couple other people in mf. i only want skarr. i see bones on his spawn rock and around it on the ledge. i guess either him or karkin. i drop down and decide to check anthriss. who's anthriss? you ask. well its the yellow spider blizzard slacked on by putting him right in the open for everyone to kill. thus making him the rarest spider of them all. hell ive seen deth spawn 3 times in 1 day. anthriss ive seen once and he was killed by a worgen warrior.

a draenei is afk next to him. and a tauren druid keeps running up and attacking him and getting 1 shot. i tell him he is a fool since they drop no loot. i didnt realize fool was an offensive word to kids. i guess he got his account from ebay. druid has a guildy watching. i tell him to stop and explain they have no loot.

i vaguely remember anthriss webs and lava. after a few attempts and pulling those pathetic giants i die. and the druid pulling off me. i finally find the right pool, cast a few arcane shots and chimaera i also had a ice trap down. i disengage and land in pool, pop deterrance and tame. i then walk up to the **** druid /lol and /spit then hearth.

seriously it shows in the patch notes they were added only for hunters. i never cared for anthriss. but no way in hell was i gonna let some scrub kill him for nothing. he will live in my stables until blizzard adds nicer rares. i named him realanthriss cos im tired of hunters running around with regular spiders bragging saying they got anthriss when its not.
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[Sarantha]

I admit I have killed Anthriss before, only because no one wanted him and his skin is very common if someone did sign on later and say they wanted him. I felt bad about it, but you gotta reset the timer somehow.

In the spirit of these forums, you may wish to edit out the names to avoid violating the "naming and shaming" rules.

[Lisaara]

I admit I have killed Anthriss before, only because no one wanted him and his skin is very common if someone did sign on later and say they wanted him. I felt bad about it, but you gotta reset the timer somehow.

In the spirit of these forums, you may wish to edit out the names to avoid violating the "naming and shaming" rules.

Or you could leave him alone too. Because people kill him for whatever reason, including yours, my friend hasn't been able to tame him.

The spiders timers are NOT linked so just don't touch him unless you plan to find him a home.

[Kalliope]

Anthriss is pretty difficult to just leave in the open, since he's....in the open. >_< He's an easy target, unfortunately. It's a hard call to decide what to do with him, just because if you don't tame or kill him, it's highly likely someone else will. That's why I push him as the rarest of all the MF lava spiders - he's highly likely to be killed rather than tamed.

It's a hard call. :/ Unfortunately, if you kill him yourself, you know no one will be taming him. But if you leave him up, there's no guarantee that the next person to wander by won't kill him.

[Lisaara]

Anthriss is pretty difficult to just leave in the open, since he's....in the open. >_< He's an easy target, unfortunately. It's a hard call to decide what to do with him, just because if you don't tame or kill him, it's highly likely someone else will. That's why I push him as the rarest of all the MF lava spiders - he's highly likely to be killed rather than tamed.

It's a hard call. :/ Unfortunately, if you kill him yourself, you know no one will be taming him. But if you leave him up, there's no guarantee that the next person to wander by won't kill him.

Thats why I sit there and FIND him a home.

[Morven]

I've still never seen Anthriss; I've seen all the others. Probably because of this.

[Kalliope]

Anthriss is pretty difficult to just leave in the open, since he's....in the open. >_< He's an easy target, unfortunately. It's a hard call to decide what to do with him, just because if you don't tame or kill him, it's highly likely someone else will. That's why I push him as the rarest of all the MF lava spiders - he's highly likely to be killed rather than tamed.

It's a hard call. :/ Unfortunately, if you kill him yourself, you know no one will be taming him. But if you leave him up, there's no guarantee that the next person to wander by won't kill him.

Thats why I sit there and FIND him a home.

The last two Anthrisses I saw got killed while I was looking for hunters to tame him. It's all the luck of the draw.

[Lisaara]

Still....better to not be the one with the blood-stained hands....ESPECIALLY if you know what its like to have people kill pets you wanted.

[Jarpe]

Never seen the spider I did know about it tho.

Well they do drop "loot" but I don't think I would live with myself knowing I killed a mob that was to a hunter's joy and all I got for making his day suck was 25g....


"YOU GET YOU'RE HANDS OFF MY PET RIGHT NOW YOU FILTHY NON-HUNTER!

[Ehawee]

f yourselves.

doing a quick check of molten front before going to bed. 4 druids 2 hunters and a couple other people in mf. i only want skarr. i see bones on his spawn rock and around it on the ledge. i guess either him or karkin. i drop down and decide to check anthriss. who's anthriss? you ask. well its the yellow spider blizzard slacked on by putting him right in the open for everyone to kill. thus making him the rarest spider of them all. hell ive seen deth spawn 3 times in 1 day. anthriss ive seen once and he was killed by a worgen warrior.

a draenei is afk next to him. and a tauren druid keeps running up and attacking him and getting 1 shot. i tell him he is a fool since they drop no loot. i didnt realize fool was an offensive word to kids. i guess he got his account from ebay. druid has a guildy watching. i tell him to stop and explain they have no loot.

i vaguely remember anthriss webs and lava. after a few attempts and pulling those pathetic giants i die. and the druid pulling off me. i finally find the right pool, cast a few arcane shots and chimaera i also had a ice trap down. i disengage and land in pool, pop deterrance and tame. i then walk up to the **** druid /lol and /spit then hearth.

seriously it shows in the patch notes they were added only for hunters. i never cared for anthriss. but no way in hell was i gonna let some scrub kill him for nothing. he will live in my stables until blizzard adds nicer rares. i named him realanthriss cos im tired of hunters running around with regular spiders bragging saying they got anthriss when its not.

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Well, to be fair, you could have handled it better as well. I wouldn't tolerate a random person calling me a fool - having someone run up and call me a fool, I find that impolite.
Sure, it's annoying when someone kill the rares, but they are attackable - if Blizzard had wanted only Hunters to interact with them, then I'm fairly confident they would have done so.

I've had my tames interrupted by people who decide to intervene for whatever reason they see fit, I can just try again at a later time.
If the same person keeps doing it, I simply report him/her for griefing, which have had results in the past. I've had people who are friends with the griefer whispering me to call me names, because the griefer had his/her account temporarily suspended.

Either way, I wish you best of luck taming Skarr, he/she(whichever you may prefer) is a beauty.

Note: I'm going by what you stated yourself in the original post as well as going by the screenshot.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but all the rares in Molten Front do drop loot, don't they? I believe they drop some grey item which sells for 25g. So I can understand why some people might kill them.
That shouldn't be confused with me thinking that's the way it should be, though.

[Roxhunt]

I can verify that Kalliope does try to find ALL rare spawns, that are hunters joys, a home before letting anything happen to them. Yesterday morning, Loque was up. She didn't have a hunter wanting him, /w me and I found a hunter on the horde side wanting him. She had Anthriss in her sites the night before and /w me to see if I wanted it, but I did not and I couldn't find anyone else that did. I did go look at it because I had never seen it out before. I believe this is one of the deaths she talked about because a group was there killing it. During my Magria 'callings' all through last night before she finally appeared to me this morning, I was signing in and out of my son's account and she /w me that Skarr was up. I announced it in guild, no response so I announced it in general for any hunter wanting it. I believe Kalliope told me a troll hunter did come tame it.

Since MF rare spawns only drop the tear for 25g, I don't kill them. I leave them alone. I try to find them a home by asking my hunter friends, letting Kalliope know so she can try to find an alliance hunter that might want them that she knows, and if all else fails, I start trying to find hunters logged on that are 85 regardless of what area they are in.

The guy that tamed Loque the other morning was bursting at the seems about having him. I was excited about it due to his excitement since I honestly didn't know the guy very well. He was in my son's guild, not mine. To me, seeing someone that happy about a pet is so much more rewarding so I wouldn't kill one. If someone else does, it's their play style, not mine.

[Kalliope]

*nods to Rox* Yep, we always look for a home! It's just rough with Anthriss, since he's a hard sell and very likely to be killed in the meantime. The spawn you were there for, the first one, that was the one I almost ran and stabled someone for so I could tame. Fortunately, a troll hunter (the one with the open-brained silithid) was convinced to tame....but yeah, all of the interruptions....sigh.

And as a personal footnote, I could never intentionally kill any of the pets that drop tears. It's too terribly sad, and if by some chance I've been able to loot a tear due to hunters failing to tame one (poor Deth....Skitter...sigh), I have left it on the body.

I really think it depends on the circumstances, though I personally wouldn't kill him either. It's just so hard to protect that big lummox. >_<

[Sarantha]

Anthriss is pretty difficult to just leave in the open, since he's....in the open. >_< He's an easy target, unfortunately. It's a hard call to decide what to do with him, just because if you don't tame or kill him, it's highly likely someone else will. That's why I push him as the rarest of all the MF lava spiders - he's highly likely to be killed rather than tamed.

It's a hard call. :/ Unfortunately, if you kill him yourself, you know no one will be taming him. But if you leave him up, there's no guarantee that the next person to wander by won't kill him.

Exactly. Which is why I'd rather kill him. As a hunter, I know how important he can be to some people, and I do my damndest (pardon my language) to find him a home. I have 4 horde and 4 alliance 85s, so I go out of my way to ask on both sides, and when no one wants him or even answers me, I will kill him. I will take the blood stained hands over some paladin who doesn't know his significance. I can at least appreciate his death and the challenge it gave me to kill him. I have never sold a single tear dropped by any rare I have on purpose or accidentally killed, so it isn't for the lulz or the 25g. I can even SS my bags and show you my tears that I've collected and not sold. I HATE killing these mobs, but if no one will give him a home, I at least want to honor him by being a hunter killing him and saving his tears. Sentimental, perhaps, or an ahole ganker, you decide. I would never kill him if I weren't absolutely sure someone else weren't wanting him (I have no idea if that sentence made sense). I would just rather see a hunter kill him than a paladin or a DK just killing him for the lulz.

[Cerele]

I eat your [Tear of Loyalty]s! Mumumumumumumumum

[Sarantha]

My D&D character's god loves to drink tears. Its his favorite drink. Yum yum?

[Kalliope]

*nods to Sarantha* (Damndest is fine, btw. ) I actually put down Arcturis once in LK after sitting with him for over an hour. He was definitely bound to end up dead, based on his location and the number of corpses I'd stumbled across in the past. It pained me to do it, but it was so late/early in the morning that finding a hunter for him just wasn't happening. :/ I mourned him properly; it was all I could do for him. It would have hurt more to have left him to die to the next person to wander by. I'm still haunted by having done it, even if it was done out of love.

That first Anthriss I saw the other day was actually killed by one of the hunters who had been trying to tame him, simply because there wasn't going to be a successful tame with a griefer around. :/

[Sarantha]

I ALMOST tried to kill Skitterflame as he was being griefed away from my goblin friends by alliance aholes, but decided I was better than that and just let them get on with it and promised the goblin we'd either get him another day or get him a better rare (which I did, I got him Deth). He still wants Skitter, sadly, though. So I'm stuck eagle eyeing his spot whenever I get the time. I don't camp for people or help them anymore.

[CrystalKitten]

To be fair, calling someone a fool for trying to kill it for loot is a bit... much. Especially those that don't follow all the patch notes. I haven't in the past. OR, I'll just skim straight to the stuff that's relevant to my playstyle, such as JUST reading the class changes for my currently played classes, and JUST reading about dungeon and/or quest changes. And that tip on the loading screen DOES say that monsters with a silver dragon have better than average loot. Just something to keep in mind.

That said... I have killed rares before (I've killed common skinned Madexx's for example, before I decided to just get one of the regular brown ones cause I wanted a chocolate scorpie, though I did rehome the red one to a guildie who likes bright coloured pets). And if I ever saw one of the ones in Northrend, and no hunters in my guild wanted it, I'd kill it towards the acheivement...

As to the spiders, people will do what they want. I saw Skitterflame up the other day, and was trying to help a horde tame him. He'd drop the iceblock trap, and then get owned. So I would iceblock an elemental, point and do /no, then ice slick another, and /yes /point, and jump up and down in the snow... He still didn't get it until someone in the area got on their horde and said "dude, if you want it look at the freaking night elf, they've been trying to help for 15 minutes".... haha. Finally got it down.. but.. instead they scared beast and still tried to tame before the buff dropped.. I'm guessing they got it mixed up with the ones where you have to dps them down to drop the buff... as they kept hitting her til she died o.o (yes, even then hunter that was trying to tame was shooting, even though me and at least one other were helping lay down traps).

I would say though, they aren't ONLY for hunters. If that was true they'd have made some special mechanic so they couldn't be attacked, but could be tamed (ie... how you can see some red named mobs, but they aren't attackable). They were designed with hunters in mind, but if they were to have been made so that there was absolutely no way for anyone else to kill it.. considering all that was put into them, there definitely probably would have been cries of "wtf blizz, why do hunters get everything?"

[Sarantha]

Ghostcrawler was made just for hunters. I know he's a special case, but still. I've seen RAIDS form to try and bring that tiny crab down. He is literally meant for ONLY HUNTERS as I think some of these mobs should be. Perhaps not Anthriss or Skitterflame, since they have common skins that are easy to get, but Deth for example. I hate seeing people kill him even after being told he drops no loot and drops certainly no grate purpz, and that he is not part of an achievement. Deth was put in the game for hunters. Anyone arguing that, want to show me your epic achievement Tear of Loyalty that sells for 25g?

[Kalliope]

A lot of players are likely to back off of killing when informed that the pet in question drops no useful loot and that the tear won't make up for the repair bills they'll rack up trying to kill him. Of course, there are still a lot of players who won't. It's all the luck of the draw of who's there.