<Speculation> Spectral Stag tamable mob

[starkittens]

i want to tame a druid kitty. they look so pretty. here kitty kitty

[Happyhooves]

Its a pity about dragons! I wouldn't say make them tamable, just "serve" you as a favor for getting rep with them. Say you get exalted with blue drakes or whatever, and then blue drakes become tamable as willing "servants" to you instead of as pets. That would let you tame dragons and leave lore intact as well as sentience. And you would have to work for it, since you'd have to be exalted to be able to tame any drake you came across and couldn't just tame them randomly. You have to earn their loyalty, basically. Like mounts. What sentient being lets you ride around on them for hours without you having earned it? You killed Maly, you earned a blue drake as a mount. You saved time, you earned a bronze drake mount. You did lots of quests, you earned a red drake mount. Let pets be the same way. You have the rep, you can tame the pet. If you don't have the rep, you can't tame them, or they won't "serve" you and will attack you if you try and tame them without being exalted with their faction.

Think of dragon taming as the ultimate reward for getting exalted with them for hunters. Screw epic mail boots, gimme one of your servants.

Or, perhaps if they just made proto drakes tamable. Proto drakes are dragons before they split into dragonflights, so it would make more sense if we could tame a proto, if any dragon. Besides, how many guys in WotLK have proto drakes as their guardians?

[Malackai]

Its a pity about dragons! I wouldn't say make them tamable, just "serve" you as a favor for getting rep with them. Say you get exalted with blue drakes or whatever, and then blue drakes become tamable as willing "servants" to you instead of as pets. That would let you tame dragons and leave lore intact as well as sentience. And you would have to work for it, since you'd have to be exalted to be able to tame any drake you came across and couldn't just tame them randomly. You have to earn their loyalty, basically. Like mounts. What sentient being lets you ride around on them for hours without you having earned it? You killed Maly, you earned a blue drake as a mount. You saved time, you earned a bronze drake mount. You did lots of quests, you earned a red drake mount. Let pets be the same way. You have the rep, you can tame the pet. If you don't have the rep, you can't tame them, or they won't "serve" you and will attack you if you try and tame them without being exalted with their faction.

Think of dragon taming as the ultimate reward for getting exalted with them for hunters. Screw epic mail boots, gimme one of your servants.

when I started my hunter 5 years back a dragon was the first thing i tried taming XD only to find out they count be tames *sigh* those where the times back then.

but I don't think blizzard will ever let dragons be tamed there just way to big. but on the other hand we got Chrommy :S
I know he/she is a corehound but still its semi dragonoid.

[Acherontia]

Yeah, I'd kill for a tameable black drake. I have always thought that a long quest line (probably starting at Wyrmrest) where you choose a flight to serve and are given a "companion" drake to partner with would be awesome.

I know they're sentient, but they're already our mounts, which imo could be far more "demeaning," and there's no reason (lore-wise) that intelligent beings can't be hunter companions--after all, there's lots of beasts currently already tameable that are intelligent, ex. nightsabers.

I even thought that each of the dragonflights could have a different ability, alongside a standard damaging fire breath:

Green: a sleep (like wyvern sting), and a green toxic cloud rather than fire when breathing fire
Red: a heal
Black: a fear
Bronze: a stun or slow, and perhaps a sand cloud rather than flames when breathing fire
Blue: a silence (and arcane/blue fire when breathing fire)

I could totally see said quest chain involving flight-specific quests working for the flight's representative (Chromie, Kalecgos etc) at Wyrmrest, proving your loyalty and then having a drake "assigned" to you, so you can both work together to strengthen the bond between mortals and the dragonflights. "To help your kind learn our ways, and our kind to understand yours," or something.

[Malackai]

Yeah, I'd kill for a tameable black drake. I have always thought that a long quest line (probably starting at Wyrmrest) where you choose a flight to serve and are given a "companion" drake to partner with would be awesome.

I know they're sentient, but they're already our mounts, which imo could be far more "demeaning," and there's no reason (lore-wise) that intelligent beings can't be hunter companions--after all, there's lots of beasts currently already tameable that are intelligent, ex. nightsabers.

I even thought that each of the dragonflights could have a different ability, alongside a standard damaging fire breath:

Green: a sleep (like wyvern sting), and a green toxic cloud rather than fire when breathing fire
Red: a heal
Black: a fear
Bronze: a stun or slow, and perhaps a sand cloud rather than flames when breathing fire
Blue: a silence (and arcane/blue fire when breathing fire)

I could totally see said quest chain involving flight-specific quests working for the flight's representative (Chromie, Kalecgos etc) at Wyrmrest, proving your loyalty and then having a drake "assigned" to you, so you can both work together to strengthen the bond between mortals and the dragonflights. "To help your kind learn our ways, and our kind to understand yours," or something.

Sounds awesome tho I think having a flapping big drake is going to make a lot of melees rage *cackles*

[Lazurianis]

Stags and Malorne being tameable was already discussed in an earlier post, the answer was no.

Sadly I have to disagree on the Dragons being tameable idea though, Dragons are Dragonkin not beasts. I would absolutely love seing dragons tameable but Blizzard would say "Dragons are Dragonkin and cannot be tamed by hunters" and it would mess up a lot of the lore such as Deathwing, Nefarian, Onyxia etc.

Also you mixed up the green and red: I'll make a few changes


Green: Toxic Spray A Heal in a Toxic Breath Form dealing Damage to enemies but healing nearby allies.
Red: Catalysmic Destruction: Deals massive fire damage in a cone granting allies a temporary shield generating no threat for 30 seconds or until the shield is dropped.
Black: Shadowflame: Dealing minor fire/shadow damage (whichever resistance is higher out of the two) causing "Curse of Mending" dealing 0% Melee damage cursing the victim(s) standing in the Shadowflame. Each time the victim attacks a target it heals the victim's target for 200% damage dealt.
Bronze: Sandstorm: Dealing minor nature damage to all victims around the caster. The caster gains "Sandstorm Backlash" every time attacked decreasing movement speed by 1% but increasing damage done by 2% every time attacked. This effect stacks up to 50 times and lasts 30 seconds.
Blue: Steal Magic: Dealing 25% melee damage to all damage in the form of fire but stealing all magic effects to all the victim(s) standing in the cone. Every magic effect stolen shares it to a nearby ally (Each Magic effect lasting 2 minutes) and deals 25% more damage to every victim standing in the cone.
Chromatic: Randomly selects a dragonflight color gaining temporary abilities.
Green: Acid Spit reducing armor by 4% and damage done by 4%. Lasts 10 seconds, stacks up to 3 times.
Red: Fiery Rage granting a resource bar "Wrath". Every Wrath stack increases damage done by 5% in fire damage, Every 10% Wrath the caster gains an additional melee attack. This effect stacks every time the caster is hit with a critical strike stacking 20 times. At 20 stacks the caster is temporarily invunerable, cannot move or act although reflecting all damage back to the attacker(s) lasting 20 seconds. After 20 seconds the caster gains "Fiery Exhaustion" increasing all damage taken by 200%.
Black: Black Flame dealing 100% melee damage as Shadow Damage decreasing all victims shadow resistance by 5% per tick. Ticks every 2 seconds when standing in Black Flame.
Bronze: Sand Breath dealing 50% melee damage as Nature Damage slowing all movement speed by 50%.
Blue: Silences all attackers in 8 yds increasing the casters melee attack power by 25% but decreasing attack speed by 25%.
Chromatic: Chromatic Rage - Once the caster has cycled through all the dragonflight colors in combat the caster becomes filled with Chromatic Rage increasing melee attack power by 200% and movement speed by 50%. Granting new abilities -
Venom-filled Bite: Dealing 100% Melee damage as Nature decreasing nature resistance by 5 to all nearby enemies. This effect stacks.
Fiery Destruction: Dealing 100% Melee damage as fire in an AOE decreasing fire resistance by 5 to all nearby enemies. This effect stacks.
Deadly Shadow Momentum: Increases movement speed by 50% and grants flight. Increasing attack speed by 5%.
Sand Shield: Decreases all damage taken by 50% in a shield. This shield spans up to 8 yds.
Frostfire Breath: Dealing 100% Melee damage as frost decreasing movement speed by 50% and increasing vunerability to Frost and Fire by 50% to all nearby enemies.

Dragon Racials:
9%+ Stamina
2%+ Movement Speed
Allows mounting (Scales depending on zone and mounting spec) when not in combat
Increases chance to be hit by 5%
2%+Damage

I know a lot of them are OP but hey, this is dragons we are talking about. They are ALL OP. I know some are sketchy but I hope I made this look better. Thanks all and enjoy

BAH SCREW IT: I WANT DRAGONS! GIMME GIMME WHO CARES WHAT BLIZZ THINKS!

[starkittens]

you know what. i want to tame a bunny. FEAR THE BUNNY CUTENESS! FEAR IT!

[Acherontia]

Also you mixed up the green and red: I'll make a few changes

I didn't Red dragons are the brood of Life, and often have lore about healing or renewal (often through fire, though). Ignore what you see when you're riding them in Oculus or whatever. And the greens are very, very much associated with sleeping, dreaming within the Emerald Dream and so forth.

[Aeladrine]

Stags and Malorne being tameable was already discussed in an earlier post, the answer was no.

Uh, no it wasn't. It was agreed that, while many of us love Malorne's model and would love to tame it, his model does need to be unique. No one ever made an agreement that stags shouldn't be tameable.

Why wouldn't stags be tameable? A lot of hunters want them, myself included. If you personally don't want them, fine, don't tame them. It's as simple as that. I don't like gorillas, but I don't go around saying that no one should be able to tame them just because I don't like them.

There's no reason for stags not to be tameable. Heck, they were even given a diet, just like hydras. Why would Blizz bother with that if they weren't going to be tameable one day?

[Vephriel]

Sadly the Stag diet was more of a fluke. There was only one type of stag mob to display a diet, the ones in Darkshore. No other stags have a diet, and those ones in fact had the same diet as a Bear. It's assumed that the bears who used to populate the area were somehow replaced by the stags and accidentally had their diets still. A stag wouldn't eat meat, so unfortunately that angle isn't much to go on.

[Sam]

I never knew that about the Darkshore stags having a diet. Your theory sounds right to me; I'm sure it was accidental.

I'd love to be able to tame a stag, spectral or otherwise. But I don't want dragons/dragonkin to be tamable. It doesn't fit with lore and it would feel weird. Even though I wish I could tame an Arcane Wyrm every time I see one... they're just so pretty!

[Aeladrine]

Ah, thanks Veph, I hadn't heard about that. All I knew was that some of them had diets and that someone had said they had probably given them the bear diets to see if diets would even work on them. Very, very old info on my part.

Pix;; Oooh, wyrms would be fantastic, too!

[Comett]

You know, Acherontia, your post is the closest thing I've seen that could actually be passable lore-wise to give dragons as battle companions. The thought I had personally was a trinket of some sort, but a dragon isn't really the type to be "summoned for battle" and then disappear half way through said battle... I think a "learning the ways of each other" excuse would be great, particularly for the expansion/patch that deals with the Emerald Dream., or even really the Deathwing patch which you would imagine would be the result of all the flights finishing him off (with the help of "heroes").

[Kerafirewing]

I'd love to see a stag pet. Still wondering about the Hydra as it would be interesting. As for taming druids, would be cool. And you can tame one form already. Daggercap Hawk from northrend will make any ally stop and look twice in pvp especially. I've had ally hunters try to silence shot my hawk before seeing me and putting 2n2 together. I just laughed and then starting fighting them with the hawk. Even walking around the world will make people (both sides) stop and look sometimes. I'd like to see SOMETHING new in the next patch though. The "challenge" tames just disappointed me as they were nothing but re-skins.

[Zhele]

I've been dying for a stag to tame since day one, when I played a draenei hunter and drooled at the moonbucks. So disappointed, I was. ;_;

[Azunara]

Meh. Tamable dragons don't sit well with me, at all.

Yes, a dragon would be willing to partner up with you and take you to places. But do you really think A. A dragon is willing to be renamed Sparklebum or DESTROYERXXX or pinchurass or any number of names and B. I don't a dragon is going to be okay with you telling it to kill the mob. Yes, there can be all the lore in the world to justify it, but in the end, you're telling a creature created to protect Azeroth (The Aspect's first purpose was to safeguard Azeroth), with hell of a lot more magical skill and power than you do, to kill X amount of mobs for you.

HOWEVER.

I would love to see some chain where you and a dragon of some sorts work together to take care of some threat. Like, in some Twilight Highlands thing where you infiltrate Deathwing's cave in the future, you work with a red dragon to sneak through and wreak havoc. Or in the Caverns of Time, you go and partner with a bronze to fix some mistake the Infinite made, or a possible future for Azeroth. The Blues have you aid the rebuilding of their flight, the Greens you have to deal with the nightmare.

I also agree Malorne (And Fandral's model, for that matter.) should be left alone.

Also, I want there to be a druid of the flame spec. It's like the best mixture of locks and druids ever.

[Qinni]

A dragon is already tamable! Chromaggus is a dragon YOU FOOLS! D: STOP IGNORING THE DRAGON!

(In lore, Chromaggus is actually a genetically engineered dragon with Core Hound DNA.

"Despite his canine appearance, he's actually a dragonkin. It is speculated that he was created by Nefarian experimenting on captured Core Hounds, such as The Beast found in Upper Blackrock Spire, possibly by feeding or injecting dragon blood from various dragons from all dragonflights.") Wowpedia say's hes in the Chromatic dragon flight! http://www.wowpedia.org/Chromatic_dragonflight

*cough*

Taming druids will just be anther form of slavery guys...

On topic.

I kinda don't want stags, part of me thinks its over doing it but if they are tamable...I want a baby deer cause I don't want a odd derpy stag next to me.

[Azunara]

*looks around shiftily.* He's special. He didn't start a dragon, he started a corehound. I'm talking dragons that are parts of Flights.

OH. THAT RAISES ANOTHER POINT.

Tamable druids mean murder-oh wait! Let druids be tamed. And when they are tamed, the first character on the the tamed druid's account will receive an in game letter containing the hunter's account info, bank info, street address, email, and all of their family. And pets.

Bwahahaha. >:3

[Qinni]

*looks around shiftily.* He's special. He didn't start a dragon, he started a corehound. I'm talking dragons that are parts of Flights.

OH. THAT RAISES ANOTHER POINT.

Tamable druids mean murder-oh wait! Let druids be tamed. And when they are tamed, the first character on the the tamed druid's account will receive an in game letter containing the hunter's account info, bank info, street address, email, and all of their family. And pets.

Bwahahaha. >:3

Oh then no, dragons our are friends! I like mine as mounts thank you, we are best friends and call him when ever I need em to fly me out....when I'm in trouble.. >.>