Hunter pet help

[zalgawi]

Hello guys, i am a new WoW player. i started 3 days ago but i already have the hang of it... i am a dwarf hunter and im lvl 27. i play on the Realm Darkspeark UK and i have tried many many pets to have but always in the end fail me :L i was wandering what is the best Pet for PvP and what is the best for PvE i dont care if i have to walk for 5 hours i will still get the pet if i have to. i really want the right thing. and if its possible to tell me a nice Elite or Rare pet to find.. i like to adventure xD please dont tell me to go to another thread... trust me i really read all of it

btw, i dont "twink" because this is my first char and i find it unfair when Rogues kill me in 1 hit so i want to stop this... can you guys tell me for PvP what the best talent build is? Beast Master, Marksman or Survival... and what do i put my talent points on.

[TygerDarkstorm]

No offense, but if you've read it all, then you know that there is no "best" pet.

Spiders are a very popular PvP pet because of their web ability, Pin/Lockjaw from crabs/dogs can be useful if you don't mind the channel, Snatch from birds of prey has its uses against melee. It all depends on your comfort level while PvPing and what you typically find yourself up against.

As for PvE, the major buffs I like to cover are str/agi (cat roar), 5% crit (wolf), Sunder armor (raptor/snake), 8% increased magic damage (wind serpent/dragonhawk), and/or 4% increased physical damage (ravagers).

However, at your level, things like talent spec and which pet aren't going to matter much. Low level BGs are HIGHLY unbalanced and, unfortunately, if you're not wearing BoA gear, then it tends to be tough luck.

Also, as to which pets you should tame, I'd recommend just browsing through the main site and taming whatever tickles your fancy: http://wow-petopia.com/

[Kalliope]

Also, I wouldn't worry about the "best" anything at level 27. Gear and skills will change a LOT between now and 85; don't stress and wait until you're closer to max level before being concerned about getting one shot. (And in the meantime, just kite anyone coming after you.)

[Shade]

As Tyger said, there is no one right pet. The game gives you a great deal of options in your play style and how you handle situations, as well as what you like to do in game and such. Because of that, you'll never find anyone who will agree on one specific pet as being the best in game.

First, what do you play as, Survival, Beast Mastery or Marksman?

I play as a BM, and as such some things that I would chose as my favorite to use pets, most certainly will not match what a Marksman might say, seeing as they cannot even use the pets that I do-being as I tend to use mostly exotics (such as Shale Spiders, Silthids, Devilsaurs, Spirit Beasts) being a BM.

Second, what are you doing? There are different pets that you want to use for different situations. As a BM, if I PvP-which is really rare as I hate it-I would use a shale spider, silthid or spirit beast myself. Running instances? I pull out my spirit beast, devilsaur and corehound. Just goofing off or doing dailies-I pick whatever is the prettiest.

Add it it that the game is always evolving. Blizzard is never going to keep the hunters or their pets set in a specific way-things change. Pets that I never like before I've gone back, treid over and have found some to be much better then I remember from the past.

You need to decide what you think is the best pet for what you do yourself. If you are on your first hunter-I highly suggest making a point of trying out all of the different types of pets-at different levels and in different situations. You'll find what works best for your situation and play style as you go along.

So the best option: try them all!

And I don't know if your realm is purely pvp or pve, but I would highly recommended making your first toon on a pve server-or just making one to learn on on a pve server till you get the basics of the class and the game down. But thats just me (and I hate pvp with a passion in the first place, lol)

[Litlemouse]

I'd tame a spider for now, at least, for PvP. Their Web is very handy- just take it off autocast and make a /cast Web macro

Wolf and cat are what comes to mind for good pets for PvE if you're going with a group. If you're soloing by yourself, a Tenacity pet might be nice, especially beetles and bears.

And the spec, I'd choose either Marksmanship or Beast Mastery. Probably Marksmanship, since that's the best right now, but if you want to tame exotic pets Beast Mastery isn't bad either (and I find it easier, but that might be just me >.>; I'm used to it of course.)

[Thwip]

[BAAAAAAAAW, Beat to the punch, What I went over in this is pretty much said already, but I took a while to type it up....so I'mma post it anyway. ;-; ]

Welcome to WoW and hunterdom, first off. :3

I'm curious as to what you mean by your pets 'fail' you, honestly. You're at a very low level where neither you or your pets have really grown very much yet nor have vary many abilities to manage. :3 In PvP it's not all up to your pet to win a fight for you. There is a vast many things to take into consideration during battlegrounds/Everyday PvP if that's the kind of realm you are on. You won't start seeing true pet potential until later on when you can spec his build a lot more then just...oh...3-4 talent points into his tree. That being said, there are some pets that could help mitigate some of the issues you might be having in a pvp situation:

Dogs/Crabs - 4 second stun/pin
Bats/Wasps - 2 second stun
Birds of Prey/Scorpids - 10 second disarm
Monkey - 4 second Disorient
Serpents/Raptors - 30 second Sunder Armor -Multi-stack debuff
Foxes/Tallstriders - 30 second reduced attack speed
Carrion Birds/Bears - 10 second damage output reduction
Spiders - 5 second pin

These are possible pets to help you gain the time you are possibly needing to get back out of the fray you might find yourself in. Remember, with a hunter DISTANCE IS EVERYTHING. We have a minimum range, if something gets too close to where we can't fire an arrow, then we are at a slight disadvantage. We are weak to melee classes and strong to those who cast spells. [For the most part this is accurate. I'm sure some PvP Veterans around here can tell you otherwise. ;3]

Now. There isn't really a whole lot you can do about Twinks if you are running into true Twinks if this a battleground scenario. Twinks are toons who have had their exp shut of at levels that end in nines in order to get the best gear possible for that level bracket. [I.E. 19, 29, 39....ect.] Battlegrounds are the only exception to Twinking as they cannot turn their XP of in such a case. [Last I heard. Twinks now have their own BG queues, oh the lamenting I heard over that fiasco.] So you could either be running into a few Twinks treading the line or possibly just some well geared up players. [Either those who run dungeons only to level who are decked in all blues or those running around in heirlooms.] It's ridiculously hard to fight those in heirlooms when you yourself are not.

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As far as PvE goes, it really depends on what you are doing. If you are leveling by yourself aka soloing with quests and adventures...it's best to have a "Tank"/Tenacity pet. These serve as you tankers to keep things off you while you sit back and do your dps thing. Having said that. There has been a LOT of changes since I played my original hunter and I'm finding this out the hard way leveling my second one on Nesingwary.

All I can say is: LEARN TO KITE. Your best bet is to stay at your maximum distance while letting your pet handle up with the up close and person. Don't be afraid to MOVE if you need to. At LEAST until you level up enough that your pet can handle tanking an add without loosing it's aggro. :3 It might take a while to build them up properly, but after they do most of your tank pets will never let you down!

When it comes down to running dungeons, each pet family has a different family ability. It's usually considered rude to have your tank pet out during dungeon runs. [I say usually, because not all hunters are smart enough not to spec them for tanking or turn off their aggro abilities.] It's a sure fire way to make any tank in your run very irritated at you, very quickly. Some tanks might even find it as an inssult/take it like you are saying you don't have faith that they'd be a good tank. Ferocity pets are usually preferred, but there are some hunters who can rock Cunning pets and do it well. Usually, Ferocity is your heavy dps hitters. They focus on dealing damage and most people will either direct you at wolves or cats for a nice ferocity pet to level with. I personally leveled with a raptor. Being as I am a Beast Master for life, I moved from raptors to devilsaurs when I got my talents up high enough. Just make sure you turn their growl off before you start a run!

If you see something you like, try it out and see how it fits for you. Later on down the line, you'll find out that you are one of the best buff bringers in the game. Our pets bring many things to the table and we can ALWAYS manage to fill a buff if it's missing during raids. So it's nice to have a good spread of pets from all families if you are going to raid. If you end up a casual player like myself.....*cough* Well.......what can I say, I like shiny pets.

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Now, as for 'best talent build'....Well. I am what I am and I don't know how to run any other spec, but I'm not saying my spec is the best in the world. It is FOR ME. Choose whatever makes you comfortable. The better you learn your spec, the more you can rock it in every aspect it has to offer. Beast Mastery relies heavily on your pet to help you deal damage. Marksmen blast things away with little help from the pet itself, that spec seems more focused on the hunter and their abilities to put out massive dps alone. Survival relies on traps and other resources to stay on top of things to blast their foes away. So in my opinion, play what you are most comfortable with and your skills will grow with that spec in time. :3

[TygerDarkstorm]

I didn't go into much more depth in my post since they were inquiring just about their level. I would have brought up exotic pets...but they're way too low to tame them. Essentially, at 27, there isn't really a best anything--neither you nor your pet have enough talent points and abilities to drastically change much; you're pretty limited and just have to learn to use what you have.

[Zipdo]

Twinks only bg against other twinks so you are not getting one shotted by a twink.

You are a low level hunter, you are the class that one shots people.

[Kalliope]

BTW, I agree that now is a great time to start running with a spider to get used to them, although a dog would be good as well, since in low brackets, pets hardly ever get focused/die.

[Makoes]

I am so sorry, but I couldnt help it: The best pet
It pretty much covers it all. No mater how many times I watch it, it still makes me ROFLMFAO!

[Litlemouse]

Twinks only bg against other twinks so you are not getting one shotted by a twink.

You are a low level hunter, you are the class that one shots people.

This isn't necessarily true. Twinks can pay 10 gold to have their XP turned off which lets them stay that low level forever, but it puts them in new BGs. However you can gear and put heirlooms on a low level toon and keep the XP turned on and still be able to enter the regular BGs.

[Zipdo]

Twinks only bg against other twinks so you are not getting one shotted by a twink.

You are a low level hunter, you are the class that one shots people.

This isn't necessarily true. Twinks can pay 10 gold to have their XP turned off which lets them stay that low level forever, but it puts them in new BGs. However you can gear and put heirlooms on a low level toon and keep the XP turned on and still be able to enter the regular BGs.

Yes, I have several twinks (xp locked). People need to know the difference between a twink and a boa leveler.
I had a 19 boa leveler with about 1200 hp, after I locked xp and finished gearing and chanting my hp is over 2000 depending on gear set and buffs. In randoms with boa levelers I do 2-3 times the dps. Levelers are not going to put the effort in a toon to out level it all.

[zalgawi]

well, the thing is i think its rogues that kill me... but what is twinks? and how do i get those really strong weapons

[GormanGhaste]

Wowpedia article on twinks.

And Warcraft Hunters Union has some pvp guides, as well as other hunter guides.

[CrystalKitten]

Rogues pretty much one-shot kill everyone in certain brackets. There isn't really much of a way to get around it, other than learning to try and avoid them in the first place with stealth revealers (can't really try and keep moving to outrun them anymore, as blizz got rid of the speed reduction for rogue stealth).

[Harvoc]

For me, I have 6 pets for PvP: a wasp for the stun, a monkey for the disorient, a bird of prey for the disarm, a gorilla for the interrupt, a spider for the root, and a crocolisk for the slow. I use the wasp, monkey, spider, and crocolisk for general PvP and the bird of prey and gorilla if I know ahead of time that I'll be facing a melee or caster. For PvE, I have 9 pets: a wolf for the critical strike chance buff, a cat for the agility and strength buff, a wind serpent for the spell damage taken debuff, a raptor for the armor debuff, a ravager for the physical vulnerability debuff, a hyena for the bleed damage debuff, a spore bat for the cast speed slow debuff, a fox for the attack speed slow debuff, and a carrion bird for the physical damage reduction debuff. I rarely use the spore bat because it only has a benefit if you're fighting casters while the others are always helpful. I also rarely use the fox and carrion bird because both of their respective debuffs can be provided by a tank but if the tank doesn't talent into the talents that allow them to provide the debuff, then I bring those two pets. I recommend getting the addon RaidChecklist because it inspects your party/raid members to see what buffs/debuffs they're bringing and then you just fill in the missing buffs/debuffs with your own pets. For leveling, I use a turtle because I enjoy the use of their self damage reduction cooldown (which is shared with beetles) in case I pull a large group but any tenacity pet works, though bears are a stand out too.

[zalgawi]

tbh, i went and got an elite blue turtle as like a tank pet for me for PvE and i got a Ghost-green Owl to snatch the weapons, i got a Rare red spider to web them oh and i use the owl to distract people from clicking on me

[zalgawi]

any btw does anybody know any good PvP tactics? like what moves i do etc?