DISCOVERY: A New Bugged Pet

[Anj]

I just abandoned Seethe after talking to a GM. The GM explained that anything circumventing a pet’s intended function is considered an exploit. I’d rather continue enjoying playing the game with all its challenges… and having stable slot free for a “normal” pet

[Lisaara]

Plus it's not something we're gonna be able to keep anyway mostly likely so no point in some huge guide. ^^;

Thats a bit harsh and entirely your own opinion.

~OP
Great guide though, I think its great that its sumed up altogether. I think perhaps the title should be changed to "How to tame Fire pet guide" or something similar to that.

Not my opinion. It's blizzard. They're gonna hotfix it pretty soon. I'm betting the next hotfix will do so.

[Golden]

Not my opinion. It's blizzard. They're gonna hotfix it pretty soon. I'm betting the next hotfix will do so.

So we've had an official word from them? Because I haven't seen it. Unless there is an official post stating this, we shouldn't act as if we knew what they were planning to do. Because the truth is, we don't. Sure, them hotfixing it and curing the already tamed ones seems the most probable option, but it's not the only one. Who knows, maybe they decide to make a fire raptor out of it just to honor our ability to find this stuff! (No, it's probably not going to happen, but it's still a [really, really small] possibility.)

And before someone says that I'm keeping up false hope, I'm fully expecting them to remove these at some point. I just really don't like someone acting as if they had spoken to a dev personally about it or otherwise got some inside information on it.

[Lisaara]

Not my opinion. It's blizzard. They're gonna hotfix it pretty soon. I'm betting the next hotfix will do so.

So we've had an official word from them? Because I haven't seen it. Unless there is an official post stating this, we shouldn't act as if we knew what they were planning to do. Because the truth is, we don't. Sure, them hotfixing it and curing the already tamed ones seems the most probable option, but it's not the only one. Who knows, maybe they decide to make a fire raptor out of it just to honor our ability to find this stuff! (No, it's probably not going to happen, but it's still a [rather small] possibility.)

And before someone says that I'm keeping up false hope, I'm fully expecting them to remove these at some point. I just really don't like someone acting as if they had spoken to a dev personally about it or otherwise got some inside information on it.

We've been hearing from a lot of GMs(C'mon, you really think there's gonna be a blue post about something this stupidly silly? think about that for a moment) that this is gonna get fixed very soon. Considering it's more than one GM saying such, that leads me to believe they would know atleast a little something on the matter.

and half the hotfixes like hunter pet exploits are usually the ones that DONT get announced. So even when they do it, we probably wont know it until we check our puddles of fire.

No reason to get ruffled feathers and demand an official word when the inevitably obvious is gonna happen.

[Golden]

We've been hearing from a lot of GMs(C'mon, you really think there's gonna be a blue post about something this stupidly silly? think about that for a moment) that this is gonna get fixed very soon. Considering it's more than one GM saying such, that leads me to believe they would know atleast a little something on the matter.

For all we know, GMs could have been having a talk at the coffee table and among themselves come to the concensus that it probably will be removed soon and act based on that. GMs have been known to be completely wrong about everyday things in the game.

My point is not to sit back and wait for a blue response, but to NOT act as if we know for sure what the future will bring. If you have to insist on constantly reminding of them getting fixed soon, feel free to do so - just remember that it's YOUR thoughts, not Blizzard's.

No hard feelings, I have nothing against your opinion, but the way you make it Blizzard's opinion too just by assumption.

[Teigan]

Observation: fire pet makes flame war. Is that irony?

[Azunara]

Observation: fire pet makes flame war. Is that irony?

Iron melts under flame, though. I think. So more like is that melty?

[Cerele]

I dont think they can remove death tame glitch
Its been around since early wrath, and they patched other glitches (IE abandon macro) And rather than getting rid of taming on death they made the worgen pet untameable and did a buff wipe in all stable slots. To remove death tame glitch (and since the fire isnt a buff) they'd first have to go to how the death itself works, and make it so a slip second before dieing you'd loose your buffs, which as far as tanking goes is a nurf, theres a ton of near death with tanks and i think they'd throw a fit if they made it like this, This glitch is special because its not a buff and thats the only reason i think blizzard hasnt done any action towards removing it. A hotpatch could make the raptor untameable, or make the seeds not explode the raptors, but i think the already tamed ones are safe, short of blizzard going into every hunter's stables and taking it out and replacing it with a basic model. either way its a ton of work that blizzard is too lazy to remove, or they are working on it... slowly

[Royi]

I dont think they can remove death tame glitch
Its been around since early wrath, and they patched other glitches (IE abandon macro) And rather than getting rid of taming on death they made the worgen pet untameable and did a buff wipe in all stable slots. To remove death tame glitch (and since the fire isnt a buff) they'd first have to go to how the death itself works, and make it so a slip second before dieing you'd loose your buffs, which as far as tanking goes is a nurf, theres a ton of near death with tanks and i think they'd throw a fit if they made it like this, This glitch is special because its not a buff and thats the only reason i think blizzard hasnt done any action towards removing it. A hotpatch could make the raptor untameable, or make the seeds not explode the raptors, but i think the already tamed ones are safe, short of blizzard going into every hunter's stables and taking it out and replacing it with a basic model. either way its a ton of work that blizzard is too lazy to remove, or they are working on it... slowly

If its just a targeting issue, I would think they would just do a quick fix to make it targetable. Or else just take out the quest altogether if they really wanted to axe it.

Anything more substantial would cost them a high amount of resources (labor / time) that they probably couldn't justify spending on something so small and trivial as this. Just IMO here.

[CrystalKitten]

I dont think they can remove death tame glitch
Its been around since early wrath, and they patched other glitches (IE abandon macro) And rather than getting rid of taming on death they made the worgen pet untameable and did a buff wipe in all stable slots. To remove death tame glitch (and since the fire isnt a buff) they'd first have to go to how the death itself works, and make it so a slip second before dieing you'd loose your buffs, which as far as tanking goes is a nurf, theres a ton of near death with tanks and i think they'd throw a fit if they made it like this, This glitch is special because its not a buff and thats the only reason i think blizzard hasnt done any action towards removing it. A hotpatch could make the raptor untameable, or make the seeds not explode the raptors, but i think the already tamed ones are safe, short of blizzard going into every hunter's stables and taking it out and replacing it with a basic model. either way its a ton of work that blizzard is too lazy to remove, or they are working on it... slowly

They can make things work different for npcs than they do player characters. They already do this for some other things (some of the loading screen tips specifically mention a few cases).

[Roxhunt]

First: Lazurianis, thank you very much for the post. I don't care if you were the first, the last, or the man standing on the roof peeing down the chimney ....it helped me and my husband both tame one last night on our hunters and we had a great time showing it off. It ALMOST got as much attention as Skarr when I first appeared in Org with it and not many people had tamed it yet!

Second: Agree with Golden. Unless Blizzard signs your paycheck, you can't state facts about them...and even if you did receive a paycheck from them, it's probably not really signed since you probably have direct deposit so no one ever knows for sure what they are going to do until they either make a 'blue post' on it themselves or they actually do it. Everything else after that is guess work at best.

Now......I have an issue

My husband and I did the quest down to where you get the soothing seeds. We never picked up Biological Intervention quest. I started tame and he threw his seeds..and bam. Worked great. I did the same for him...worked great. We had a friend that wanted one as well, but after about 20 attempts, it would never let her rez one and it would never show up under 'call pet'. She hadn't did any of the quest since we had the seeds. So, she did the quest just in case...still nothing after about 30 more attempts. We kept dropping the quest and picking it back up when we'd get to the 6 complete on the soothing seeds quest.

Could this be because my husband had already done it for me and me for him that we couldn't get it to work? Any ideals why we couldn't help her? The pet would blow up at the right time but when she'd go to rez, it would tell her she didn't have a pet to revive. It wouldn't be with her other pets either. We were in vent to do this. We'd see the flames on the ground for a while but no pet...and we had a few bugged ones...pet wonders around like nothing happened and then disappeared, etc.

Any suggestion?

[Royi]

Plus it's not something we're gonna be able to keep anyway mostly likely so no point in some huge guide. ^^;

Thats a bit harsh and entirely your own opinion.

~OP
Great guide though, I think its great that its sumed up altogether. I think perhaps the title should be changed to "How to tame Fire pet guide" or something similar to that.

Not my opinion. It's blizzard. They're gonna hotfix it pretty soon. I'm betting the next hotfix will do so.

It is your own opinion that theres "no point in some huge guide" and it is your interpretation on what a corporation like Blizzard would do in regards to this issue. Until you provide a link to a actual blue post promising that this is going to get hotfixed, it is your own opinion.

Theres nothing wrong with opinions, you just got to watch out when what you may think of is a fact is actually just what you believe. Happens to all of us

[CrystalKitten]

My husband and I did the quest down to where you get the soothing seeds. We never picked up Biological Intervention quest. I started tame and he threw his seeds..and bam. Worked great. I did the same for him...worked great. We had a friend that wanted one as well, but after about 20 attempts, it would never let her rez one and it would never show up under 'call pet'. She hadn't did any of the quest since we had the seeds. So, she did the quest just in case...still nothing after about 30 more attempts. We kept dropping the quest and picking it back up when we'd get to the 6 complete on the soothing seeds quest.

Could this be because my husband had already done it for me and me for him that we couldn't get it to work? Any ideals why we couldn't help her? The pet would blow up at the right time but when she'd go to rez, it would tell her she didn't have a pet to revive. It wouldn't be with her other pets either. We were in vent to do this. We'd see the flames on the ground for a while but no pet...and we had a few bugged ones...pet wonders around like nothing happened and then disappeared, etc.

Any suggestion?

I would say either the timing is a split second off.. Or maybe it was hotfixed without needing a restart? Which is the case would depend on whether other people are still able to tame it or not. I doubt though that there would be some internal clock of "Oh, you helped someone get this already!", as that would be creating a mechanic for something that wasn't intended in the first place. Although, with weird random bugs like this you never really do know.

[Golden]

I think the point has been made, so let's not pester Jessi any more with it, k? ^^

@Roxhunt
Honestly I have no idea what could be causing that to happen. O_o I've personally helped a couple of Petopians and they've helped my two Hunters and it would always be successful the first time the Raptor actually blows up. I would like to say that you're throwing the seed too early, but you pointed that out already.. Apart from that, I'm bummed.

Your friend came over to tame one right after you and your husband had gotten yours? Then it seems that they couldn't have fixed it either while your friend was on their way...

Edit: Ninja'd again, duh! XD

[Royi]

and even if you did receive a paycheck from them, it's probably not really signed since you probably have direct deposit

That made me laugh. They cant sign paychecks anymore since its all automatic!


Maybe it was just horrible luck at the end there? Or perhaps since you wouldnt be able to vouch for exactly what the other hunter was doing (whereas you could see your husbands screen and your screen etc), maybe that other hunter was doing something wrong. Maybe they had all 5 slots filled already. Maybe they were cancelling the tame right at the end since they thought thats what fixed it or something?

I'm still suprised to this day at some hunter's actions out there. For instance I saw a hunter go in and kill Karkin. I asked him why didn't he tame it? He said "I'm not BM, rare pets can only be tamed by BM hunters" and then something along the lines of "I wanted to see if he would drop anything cool". Yeap, someone who leveled all the way to 85 as a hunter said that. I almost wanted to get a screenshot for lol's.

[Roxhunt]

Yes - the friend tried within minutes of my husband and I getting our flaming balls.

The hunter is pretty 'experienced'.
1. I had already made sure she had a slot open. I think she had 2 slots actually open.
2. I told her she had to allow the tame to complete and be sure not to interrupt it. She said she did let it complete. We did this multiple times while one of us (my husband or I) was watching her tame bar. One of us was throwing seeds, the other one was watching her tame bar to adjust timing but we were mostly letting her tell us when.
3. I think we tried about 30 or 40 times. It was one of those things where we were having to look for the ones we'd done earlier to respawn because we were running out of the ones to tame. So, yeah, we thought it could be a split second thing, but you'd think somewhere in there, we would have gotten it.
4. My husband and I weren't looking at each other screens. We'd allow it to complete 3/4 of the tame (1/4 left like the post said) and we'd say go and whoever was throwing the seeds would. We both got it on the first try so there's probably a little lead way in the timing.

I considered they might have more/less haste so we altered when the seed was thrown accordingly.

[Golden]

Did you pay any attention to the time the tame had left? I found 1.5 seconds to be the perfect moment to start casting the seed. You probably know this, but if you set the person who's taming as your focus target (type /focus when you have them targeted), you can see their cast bar which makes timing the seed MUCH easier.

[Roxhunt]

Golden,

I did not pay attention to how much time was left but I will tonight. We finally gave up last night but they are planning on trying again tonight.

I did not know about the 1.5 seconds but I can watch that as they try since my husband is usually throwing the seeds. I'll set them as my focus.

Thanks so much help and advice....I'll let you know how it goes!

[Dr. Rockso]

you cant really go by what a GM tells you in game cause iv talked to a GM and told i would not get in any trouble using this pet and they are looking into it. They have said nothing about it getting reverted back to the raptor and or tallstrider so to say they are hot fixing it and saying we wont keep it is simply just rumors

i think its a cool pet hence why i tamed it lol. you dont like it dont tame it, but no reason to say it WILL be hot fixed when none of us really know as of yet

[Subfocus]

Got it on my first try, tossed the thing @ 2 seconds left on tame.