Fire Pets are now FIXED

[Mychelle]

Also, doings things that you know are a bannable offense, even if you dont really care about the ban or think you can cheat or get around the system, isnt a "free pass" to just do these things. People like this are the reason why we cant have nice things.

Not to be rude, but yes, it is. If I'm willing to take the chance to not get caught and shoulder the punishment when I do, it really is nobody's business but my own.

And to not be as equally rude, but I'll repeat.

People like this are the reason why we cant have nice things.

And thats nobody's opinion but my own.

[Monica Gems]

Also, doings things that you know are a bannable offense, even if you dont really care about the ban or think you can cheat or get around the system, isnt a "free pass" to just do these things. People like this are the reason why we cant have nice things.

Not to be rude, but yes, it is. If I'm willing to take the chance to not get caught and shoulder the punishment when I do, it really is nobody's business but my own.

And to not be as equally rude, but I'll repeat.

People like this are the reason why we cant have nice things.

And thats nobody's opinion but my own.

And mine. Something fun is exploited? Yoink.

[cameralady]

Yeah, I don't ever think I said I exploited things.

I decided to go out and see if it was possible to re-tame the fire patches using the old method, or other methods. And then somebody jumped on me for doing so. I don't get why confirming that re-taming methods do not work is such a problem...?

I don't grief with the fire patch, or other glitch pets, but again, if I chose to, I really don't think it would be anything for anybody else to complain about. Report me and get me banned, sure, but that's the extent of anybody else's involvement.

[Lisaara]

Yeah, I don't ever think I said I exploited things.

I decided to go out and see if it was possible to re-tame the fire patches using the old method, or other methods. And then somebody jumped on me for doing so. I don't get why confirming that re-taming methods do not work is such a problem...?

I don't grief with the fire patch, or other glitch pets, but again, if I chose to, I really don't think it would be anything for anybody else to complain about. Report me and get me banned, sure, but that's the extent of anybody else's involvement.

Fire patch WAS an exploited thing and you boldly said you'd tame it again after Blizz obviously didn't want us to have it and we're baffled that you want to get banned. If you're gonna say such things on a public and well known forum, be prepared for 'WTF?!' kind of responses.

[Tsuki]

There's a moral to this story somewhere. :p

Don't expect Blizz to give you an ooze cause you glitched a tame? XD

I thought I was the only one saying that? :U

[Paciphae]

And you guys realize this wasnt just a one person makes the choice, right? It's usually a group of people aka the Devs that make the decision.

ANYWAY

Lets just be happy we had them while we can and drop the whole 'but i want it cause it's shiny! it's not fair!' ordeal. Let's use this post for fond memories.

Fine. I bemoan the unforgiving nature of the whole group then.

It wasn't shiney, it was burny; and I was attached to it. Why mourn the loss and cry when I can kick those who took it away in the shins? Angry beats sad any day.

[Lisaara]

There's a moral to this story somewhere. :p

Don't expect Blizz to give you an ooze cause you glitched a tame? XD

I thought I was the only one saying that? :U

Oh no. Definitely not. XD

[Ijomi]

This is why we can't have nice things, and this is another example of where our bad reputation as a class comes from.

As I said back when, "Only hunters."

What a shame. :T

[Mychelle]

This is why we can't have nice things, and this is another example of where our bad reputation as a class comes from.

As I said back when, "Only hunters."

What a shame. :T

Im glad there are people out there that agree with me. Heh.

[Ijomi]

*fistbump* I'm honestly still mystified how people can glitch/bug/exploit Blizzard's system to get something not intended, then complain when it is taken away. The devs give us enough awesome stuff legitimately without resorting to "cheat codes". :s

[cameralady]

Fire patch WAS an exploited thing and you boldly said you'd tame it again after Blizz obviously didn't want us to have it and we're baffled that you want to get banned.

If that's the case then why didn't the members of this forum jump on everybody the SECOND it became known, before blizz even moved to fix it? It was still clearly an exploit, right?

I honestly do not see a problem with confirming that you can't re-tame these. It's helpful information. And I never said I wanted to get banned, don't twist my words. I said that it's very unlikely that I would get banned for testing the old method, unlikely enough that it's worth the risk.

I'm not angry that blizz caught this. There will be other bugs in the future to exploit.

This is why we can't have nice things

To everybody who said this: you act like somehow my re-testing of the old tame methods is what directly lead to the ifre puddle's reversion. This has nothing to do with you not having nice things. In fact, if there was NOBODY, not a single hunter griefing with the fire puddle and everybody successfully followed the honour system blizzard would have still reverted it because the potential is there.

The actions of me, or any actual griefer, had nothing to do with this pet's reversion.

[Lisaara]

Fire patch WAS an exploited thing and you boldly said you'd tame it again after Blizz obviously didn't want us to have it and we're baffled that you want to get banned.

If that's the case then why didn't the members of this forum jump on everybody the SECOND it became known, before blizz even moved to fix it? It was still clearly an exploit, right?

I honestly do not see a problem with confirming that you can't re-tame these. It's helpful information. And I never said I wanted to get banned, don't twist my words. I said that it's very unlikely that I would get banned for testing the old method, unlikely enough that it's worth the risk.

I'm not angry that blizz caught this. There will be other bugs in the future to exploit.

Uh...they did. There was a big bru-ha-ha over the whole thing. I think the thread either did get locked or was close to it cause it was causing such a kerfluffle.

That's not really why you said you wanted to tame it. You might wanna go back and re-read what you typed. It's one thing to try and be helpful. It's another to claim you're being helpful when you just said you don't care if you get banned cause you want the pet back.

[Chimera]

Grimtotem Spirit Guide, an accidental mistake that people learned to legit tame. Ooze, ghost croc, and ghost hydra, an accidental mistake that blizzard didnt label them untameable. Most likley reason for the fact these were tameable is because of the Crocolisk and one of the people to create the event must of given the other two the croc family either for personal luls and pretending afterwards it was a mistake, though im sure it was an honest mistake on whoevers part at blizzard.

Garwal, hes using a wolf model to begin with, a very common wolf model that has been tameable since WotLK beta, they probably forgot to label him untameable because he can turn into a worgen but he was swiftly changed because while buffs/debuffs (Bloodmoon Island, i have pics of my Rhino in a tiny worgen form from debuffs) are alright because they're temporary but a permanent humanoid companion, i still think its moreso the thought of active player slavery then the fact we got worgens for a race in Cata.

Though i am happy to see this fixed, i do feel bad for those who got attatched but at the same time i dont because you tamed them knowing you were taking advantage of another form of exploit you discovered with the hotfix of /pet_abandon() and the fact that you discovered you could tame it as a puddle of fire instead of its original form with some kind of aura or flames or whatever. It was 2 exploits at once not an accidental mistake on blizzards part.

Grimtotem= legit. Garwal= legit only for the fact it was a mistake on blizzards part for allowing us to tame the worgen form. The 3 Spirits from Sholazar= legit because blizzard forgot to label all 3 or at least the Ooze and Hydra as untameable. Pets that lose buffs upon taming, but with the use of some creativeness, retains them= exploit. Pure exploit because blizzard made it so those buffs went away for a reason. I have tamed my fair share of exploits and while my only long lasting one is The Lone Hunter, even then i abandoned them all so people wouldnt ask how i got him since i dont want to teach people how to tame exploits.

Im sorry to hear about those who feel sad for losing their fire pets but you shouldnt get attatched to something YOU KNOW is going to be hotfixed. *comforts the people who havent made it out like blizzard did something atrocious by trying to keep their game fun for the population as a whole*

Also for the Ghost Hydras.... i have a huge gut feeling they're gonna make that particular hydra a retired tame... even tho it will have the hydra family i think its gonna end up like the Grimtotem, just without a fellow ghostly counterpart for those who missed the glee of taming one

[cameralady]

Uh...they did. There was a big bru-ha-ha over the whole thing. I think the thread either did get locked or was close to it cause it was causing such a kerfluffle.

and even if there wasn't, it would've been banned anyway. Like I said, the actions of anybody had nothing to do with its removal.

You might wanna go back and re-read what you typed.

alright.

The ones currently tamed have been fixed, but has the taming method been fixed?

I'm off to retame one and see what's up!!

I've been looking for a relatively cool raptor - i only use glitch pets or pets with unique skins, that's just how i like things. for a while i've been wanting a unique raptor and the fire patch was it.

Also i've tamed a couple now, they don't seem to keep the fire effect after taming. sucks!!

I don't think I've ever said that I wasn't interested in getting the fire patch back. Wanting my cool pet back, and providing the rest of you with a bit of information regarding whether it can still be tamed using the old method, are not mutually exclusive endeavours.

[peanutbuttercup]

Lets just be happy we had them while we can. Let's use this post for fond memories.

(Covers eyes to drama)

Goodbye little firecarpet, you burned briefly, but brightly. You'll continue to live on in screenshots, so that I can remember the good times I had watching melee ran away from you in Firelands. Back to the wild with you, retire in peace.

[Lisaara]

@camera - You didn't quote where you said you don't care if you get banned.

I don't mind being banned, it'll give me a good excuse to quit for a while. Also, if anything, i'd get a warning or a three day ban - i've gotten in trouble with blizzard a few times to know that they only instantly permaban you if you're actually threatening another player, and they do eventually erase your strikes if you haven't done anything in a couple of months. So banning doesn't worry me.

Not to be rude, but yes, it is. If I'm willing to take the chance to not get caught and shoulder the punishment when I do, it really is nobody's business but my own.

@peanut - I'll miss him a little myself. He was amusing.

Anyway, again I restate, lets drop the drama. It's going in circles now.

[Mychelle]

If that's the case then why didn't the members of this forum jump on everybody the SECOND it became known, before blizz even moved to fix it? It was still clearly an exploit, right?

Blizzard has always been fairly clear on what is an exploit in the game, and what isnt. I wasnt here for the original thread on the matter, but I think this situation is more of the use of common sense then anything else. And with Blizzard fixing the pets themselves, that was them confirming are already known opinion on if they were a exploit or not.

This isnt about the past though. This is about the *continued* attempts to use this exploit. Which I believe you contiously stated that after the fix you still tried to get the pet back in its glitched form. It is pretty obvious at least to me, and a few other members, that you were not trying to be helpful in any such way. In the risk of a ban, which you did not care about, you just wanted your glitched pet back. I dont think any of us have twisted around your words more then you yourself has already.

Here's a prime example. "It was about beating the system." Your words, not ours. How is this "helpful"?

If Blizzard says we arent allowed to have it, then we arent. As sad as I would be to see my oil-covered wolf be turned back into normal, I am not going to try to re-glitch the pet if Blizzard has removed the "exploit" for obvious and good reasons. As it did with this glitched pet.

Edit - And I'll be ending my opinion here for the sake of ending the drama.

[Kalliope]

Fire patch WAS an exploited thing and you boldly said you'd tame it again after Blizz obviously didn't want us to have it and we're baffled that you want to get banned.

If that's the case then why didn't the members of this forum jump on everybody the SECOND it became known, before blizz even moved to fix it? It was still clearly an exploit, right?

We actually did say in the original thread that fire pets were a) being exploited in the arena and other PvP situations b) likely to be fixed. Now that they've been fixed, banning is a distinct possibility.

Plan accordingly and use common sense, please.

[cameralady]

It's helpful to people like me, who don't particularly care about blizzard's edicts on the subject, and are willing to try some new trick or some new method to get a special pet again. And I know that many people like that exist out there. They're the ones who determined that abandoning or killing a pet upon taming them and created a large list of buffs that would keep permanently, would keep until death, or would not keep at all, for example. If they weren't interested in gaming the rules in even the slightest, that thread wouldn't have gotten as huge as it did. This forum does have a decently-sized population of people like that, even if you wish it didn't.

I didn't even need to wait to determine if I was the only one that was curious if they could re-tamed. I'm just the one who publically tested it and returned with my results, for all those who were interested. I DID also want my pet back, I never said I didn't, but like I said, wanting my pet back and determining if the tame still works for the good of other people who also want their pets back, are not mutually exclusive.

Now that they've been fixed, banning is a distinct possibility.

I know it's against the rules of the game, but it is no more or less against the rules than before blizzard fixed it. The chances of people being banned now for trying to tame it are actually LESS than the chance of being banned for using the pet in pvp situations, because the tame method doesn't even work anymore.

Using an untargettable pet in pvp sounds like something you can be banned for. Trying a previously glitchy tame method that no longer works, and is no longer glitchy in any way, doesn't sound like a bannable offense. To use your own words... use common sense.

[Dr. Rockso]

Well then to be fair all the slimes and or ghost wolves should be taken away if you want to be fair since those where also exploit tames