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Trueshot Aura and Abom's Might give melee 20% ap, hunters, only 10%.
There are no buffs to our abilities as far as mmo can tell.
This smells like a whole lot of bad.
I KNOW WHY THE CHANGES ARE MADE. KNOWING WHY DOESN'T CHANGE THAT WE ARE BENEFITTING 50% LESS THAN ANOTHER CLASS.50% - 10% is half, or 50% of, 20%.
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Plus, there is another buff in the patch notes now:Hunter DPS is fine, or even high in 4.2, so we didn’t want this buff to extend to them, which is why the AP benefit is now 20% for melee attacks but still 10% for ranged attacks.
I for one am pleased with buffs to our execute.Kill Shot now scales from 45% of Ranged Attack Power, up from 30%.
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The dps mapping sites out there are currently mapping hunters mid pack. CURRENTLY. Buff another set of dps further withmore AP, casters have their legendary, and what do we get to help us out? GC says hunters are "fine" but there's a huge amount of discontent in the hunter community as it is. It's not going to get any better if this goes through.
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Also, before you go getting your panties in a bunch, this is just the start of 4.3 changes, none of these are even close to being set in stone yet.
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I hope they pay very close attention to the ptr numbers. But they were crying about losing subs not too long ago, and are now pulling this. Dangerous move.
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It's the same for Hunters as it was before, the only change is for casters.
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Yes, they do. And other casters have to worry about silences, whereas hunters do not.Monica Gems wrote:Sorry, I don't feel sorry for them. Casters and hunters to a lesser extent have their own movement issues.
As you noted yourself, ranged players do have to move some themselves, but they can still use instant cast abilities while on the move (and hunters are even less affected, since we have aspect of the fox). Melee classes can't maintain their usual rotations if they have to run out.
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So my racial's gonna be worthless?
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Dewclaw wrote:Orc racial no longer affects ranged attack power, only melee.
So my racial's gonna be worthless?
Quoting old tooltip: Increases melee attack power by 1169 and your spell damage by 584. Lasts 15 sec.
Quoting new tooltip: Increases your melee attack power by 1169 and your spell power by 584. Lasts 15 sec.
Those were the only changes
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PTR isnt up yet and 4.3 is nowhere close to going live, these changes most likely will be modified multiple times if needed to balance things out.TygerDarkstorm wrote:Also, before you go getting your panties in a bunch, this is just the start of 4.3 changes, none of these are even close to being set in stone yet.
As far as u posted nothing is even nerfing them, unless every hunter is an orc. Most hunters on the horde side are troll for the bow specialization from what I've had experience with. U still get 10% RAP from trueshot aura and similar buffs.
U should just wait and see how the testing turns out and how to optimize your character for when 4.3 goes live. Other classes do need to be buffed and some need to have aspects of their play modified.
This is how the game has always worked; unless you rolled a mage, where u can expect to be buffed constantly.
A nerf to one class and a buff to others may help the raid unit work better overall. hunters seem to be in the middle atm without any major changes.
you are quoting the changes incorrectly. it is not a 20% increase to melee dps. the buff trueshot aura(and similar ones) will give the current 10%+ AP to ranged and the changed 20%+ AP to melee.Rawr wrote:The only problem with the "20% increase to melee DPS but not ranged"
Currently on my marks hunter i have around 13k ranged AP in za/justice gear and on my similarly geared enhancement shaman I have around 10k melee AP, not to mention absurd amounts of hit and expertise that hunters do not require. so a 20% AP buff to melee would bring me closer to my hunters AP but still, the hunter would have more.
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And by the way, Blood Fury hasn't been affecting your ranged attack power for quite some time now.
Also, Parkour, I'm not sure why you quoted me there; you're basically saying what I said.
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This explains a lot! I just assumed that the complaint was regarding the buff to the AP buff, not thinking that Monica interpreted it as a flat buff across the board.Parkour wrote:you are quoting the changes incorrectly. it is not a 20% increase to melee dps. the buff trueshot aura(and similar ones) will give the current 10%+ AP to ranged and the changed 20%+ AP to melee.
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@Parkour, your right I should have said 10% not 20%, but ranged are still not getting a buff, melee are that's my gripe. Warriors, DKs, and Enhancement Shaman are right up there with us, Cats, Rogues, and Paladins do need a buff but that can be done without giving them all an increase to AP.
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That's why I linked that blue post to try and clarify the changes. I read them the way Parkour said as that's how it's listed on MMO-C as well.Kalliope wrote:This explains a lot! I just assumed that the complaint was regarding the buff to the AP buff, not thinking that Monica interpreted it as a flat buff across the board.Parkour wrote:you are quoting the changes incorrectly. it is not a 20% increase to melee dps. the buff trueshot aura(and similar ones) will give the current 10%+ AP to ranged and the changed 20%+ AP to melee.
Boub even cleaned up the datamined info and the change now reads:
Edit: Blessing of Might will work the same way as the new Trueshot Aura.Trueshot Aura now increases melee attack power by 20% and ranged attack power by 10%.
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As far as the whack a mole, or a priority rotation, goes anything is harder than arcane mages and look where they stand
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