Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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Re: Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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Vephriel wrote:It's nice to get a bunch of new pets and species each expansion, but if they do it every time we're just going to end up with a ridiculous amount of them. I think we have more than plenty to choose from now, and if they slow down on adding more it's not a big deal. We really are lucky to get as much attention and specialized consideration already. Not many other classes have so many individual perks added just for them. We're swimming in tameable models now, I think it's feasible that Blizzard might slow the pace and spread things out over future expansions. Sure there's a few existing species I'd love to see tameable, but I can be patient. A few new theme-appropriate skins would be great for MoP, but I won't complain if there isn't much. :) And what's wrong with rehashing? It's time consuming and expensive to create a completely brand new model. Blizzard can get a lot of mileage out of one animation skeleton, and they're great at using them in creative ways. I don't mind seeing 'rehashes', it's still a new look regardless.
i for one would like to think at some point they run out of animals,
but that most likely means ill get my dream pet, hydra EEEEEEE
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Loki wrote:I know people always bring up the "Oh, we got X amount of new skins last time, be happy" but the trouble with this is that it is akin to someone who likes sweets but not chocolate getting handed a bucketful of sweets time and time again and when he complains about wanting chocolate everyone uses this argument. Sure, we got new skins but there are certain families and probably even skins people have wanted for many patches (even expansions) and no amount of other families/skins is going to make them happy enough to not keep asking.

I do understand that devs have to work on 12 classes, dungeons, zones etc., but I feel using the Dudley argument is a little unfair. Just because you maybe got that skin or family you wanted and are happy, doesn't mean everyone else shouldn't stop hoping for lots of new things to tame in upcoming patches/expansions.
They can ask all they want as long as they're realistic. Again, it may not be realized as this is a hunter forum, but as someone who typically plays a different class, I say you guys do need to realize that you do have a lot of pets to choose from. Keep asking, but don't be surprised or upset when you don't get it.

Face it. It's a new expansion that they need to cater to everyone, because they've already dropped the ball so to speak on Cata. People aren't as interested. They need something big that will encompass everyone to feel real comfortable, so their focus isn't going to be on pets.
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Re: Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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Slickrock4 wrote:filled with the euro-centric based creatures that fill the game now.
Europe and Asia, being one huge landmass, share a lot of their animal families. A lot of the natural creatures that exist in WoW have species that exist or have existed in China. And given the number of tiger variants running everywhere you could say the wildlife was, if anything, more Asia-centric.

I'm hopeful that we'll see more new families released in WoW, even if they're not species seen (commonly) in Pandaria. At least it would be a LOT of new skins to hunt down. I still have my fingers crossed for mana/arcane wyrms, which really would fit the oriental theme.
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The comparison to Dudley is extremely apt here.

It's all in the phrasing. It's one thing to hope and desire something, but another entirely to expect it.

We got spoiled as hell in Cataclysm and, based on the complaints of the past, even THAT wasn't enough. Seriously, we're getting to the point of the unused skins all being out there, which will require either new artwork (which means more work for the art department) and/or new families (also more work for the art department in some cases, as well as figuring out how to make said families blend in usefully). These aren't trivial matters to consider; it's a lot of work.

That massive series of discoveries was appropriate for Cataclysm. The pace will definitely slow down after it, especially with a good deal of the unused skins now in the game. And it's appropriate that it will.

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Re: Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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Slickrock4 wrote:So, I guess everyone is telling me to be satisfied with a wonderful Asian landscape (from the artwork we've seen sofar, that certainly seems to be the case), filled with the euro-centric based creatures that fill the game now.

Euro-centric?

Ok... Chinese star signs go!

Rat, Ox, Tiger, Rabbit, Dragon, Snake, Horse, Sheep, Monkey, Rooster, Dog, Boar!

We already have 1/2 of these in game no?..... But I guess there is room for rats ,rabbits ,sheep and rooster pets :D

But seriously, as much as I'm sure there will be some Asian flavored pets (new tiger skins and others) and there will be a few new families added, personally I don't think we need 1/2 a dozen new families (even though no hunter would complain, well they'd find a way but yeah)

We did get spoilt for new skins this expansion with so many old ones added (ty noah and wain :hug: ). But as some have already mentioned, the amount of skins that are left, not being used are very few. Blizzard knows how much us hunters <3 our pets, did you see how much work they put into the molten front rares? I would not doubt for a second that they will not sink their teeth into this juicey Asian theme and forget the beasts and the hunters. As a designer I just salivate at the options that would now be open and avalible to design with in this upcoming expansion and it's theme (and yes I'm thinking of pets mainly ;) )

Don't stress to much Slick, I'm sure there will be plenty of surprises and beautiful designs to come in the next expansion. :)

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Re: Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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Slickrock4 wrote:filled with the euro-centric based creatures that fill the game now.
Europe and Asia, being one huge landmass, share a lot of their animal families. A lot of the natural creatures that exist in WoW have species that exist or have existed in China. And given the number of tiger variants running everywhere you could say the wildlife was, if anything, more Asia-centric.
Well, beyond the common animals, many of the wow beasts are based on mythology that is not common with the orient. But, I guess you could fill it with raptors, since there are plenty of dinosaur fossils in China... ;)

But I do find it odd that everyone is willing to accept whatever we get for pets, and would seem to be happy with none at all, but yet the potential loss of 2Hers for RP purposes results in a full nerd-rage.... :roll:
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Slickrock wrote:But I do find it odd that everyone is willing to accept whatever we get for pets, and would seem to be happy with none at all, but yet the potential loss of 2Hers for RP purposes results in a full nerd-rage.... :roll:
Depends on who's replying to the threads, to be quite honest. Different people, totally different opinions.

When you say "everyone," you're making an inaccurate mass generalization. :)

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Re: Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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Kalliope wrote:
Slickrock wrote:But I do find it odd that everyone is willing to accept whatever we get for pets, and would seem to be happy with none at all, but yet the potential loss of 2Hers for RP purposes results in a full nerd-rage.... :roll:
Depends on who's replying to the threads, to be quite honest. Different people, totally different opinions.

When you say "everyone," you're making an inaccurate mass generalization. :)
And add to that the fact that people have posted LOADS of ideas for new stuff based on Oriental mythology, so we know they care. A lot. Plus people can get more worked up about things where they have some official announcement and factual data (such as the 2H thing). Of course they're not worked up about the bestiary of Pandaria because we have very few details so far. I expect a lot of the continent is still devoid of the day-to-day stuff. In fact I'd consider it a testament to the people here that they're not getting too worked up purely by speculation.
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I would rather they make some of the existing non-hunter tameable beast families tameable - hydras, stags, basilisks, zebras, talbuks, etc. instead of getting totally new beast types. They asked at last expansion what would people like as pets, and these creatures were mentioned many times over but none became pets (hydras sort of did, but not really).

The comment about people "nerd raging" over the loss of melee weapons wasn't neccessary. I know many hunters are fine with no more stat sticks, but there's others who value them for one reason or another. For me, my melee weapons are like snapshots. I can remember how I got each one. Walking around with them reminds me of guildmates and friends I've made while playing, and all the quests and dungeons I've been through. I don't want them to take those snapshots and throw them away.
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Re: Getting a bad feeling about Pandaclysm pets....

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I don't see it as lazy if they use the tiger skins there. I mean Tigers are mostly in asia.
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I'm sure Blizzard will flesh out Pandaria and populate it with creatures as they see fit. I doubt their art department is lacking for ideas, so all it comes down to is how much time and money they can allocate to such things. Hunter pets or not, it doesn't make a difference. They will make as many models as they are able to regardless of tamability. We're not even in beta testing yet, there could be far more things coming in the future. Of course we'd all enjoy seeing new pets come out of this...we already know of quite a few models that are bound to be tameable. All I'm saying is that it's presumptuous to think we should always be getting multitudes of brand new, tameable models and families when we have so much as it is. I don't think anyone's flat out saying 'No new pets, ever again, at all!', there's just a point where you have to look at it realistically and see what we've already been given in the grand scheme of things. I will not look at what we eventually end up getting and demand more for the sole reason that it doesn't match up to previous additions.

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It's all in the phrasing. It's one thing to hope and desire something, but another entirely to expect it.
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MoP has barely been announced and probably isn't gonna be up for release until maybe this time next year, more than enough time for new things to be shown/released yet
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Andine wrote:All I really expect from Blizzard is some exotic families that people were asking for since a long time - hydras, basilisks, etc. Other that that, I'm happy with the choices we have.
Any of which have a place in asian lore?... :|
They have as much in common with Asian lore as dogs and foxes have anything to do with the world being shattered. It's just the stuff that should have been there since the beginning. It's like saying, why are Hunters losing their deadzone? It's nothing Chinese, it's just something that should have been there already.
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Slickrock4 wrote:While others are threatening to quit the game over the loss of melee weapons, this is the type of oversight that might make me finally loose interest in the game.
Uh huh.

Got a quote to support this, or is this another baseless generalization a la "one person suggested reneging on the 1 yr commitment - look where these forums are going"?

:lol:

Also, it's "lose", not "loose".
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Worba wrote:
Slickrock4 wrote:While others are threatening to quit the game over the loss of melee weapons, this is the type of oversight that might make me finally loose interest in the game.
Uh huh.

Got a quote to support this, or is this another baseless generalization a la "one person suggested reneging on the 1 yr commitment - look where these forums are going"?

:lol:

Also, it's "lose", not "loose".
Since you appear you want to be against me, fine, so be it. Here's a quote for you from the other thread.
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My hunter has Thunderfury, Treant's Bane, Runeblade of Rivendare, Ashkandi (both), and a LOT of purple drops from old school farming. I made it my mission to grab them all. And they're just piles of gold waiting to be sold? I won't even be able to equip them anymore?

No. No. The last straw. I didn't put this much effort into my main for this to happen. If MoP hits live and I can't equip any of my melee weapons, even just for show, I'm done. I'm gone.
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One person determines it, right? One person quitting will kill WoW? Mmm....I think it'll take more than just Dialga quitting to make much of a statement.

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I am more than happy with what we have recieved with cataclysm. I won't be sad or angry if we don't get 50 new pets with MoP, I'd rather be relieved, no more camping.

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Miyon wrote:I am more than happy with what we have recieved with cataclysm. I won't be sad or angry if we don't get 50 new pets with MoP, I'd rather be relieved, no more camping.
Agreed. :3 I'm quite content.

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i have but one favor to ask from he developpers concerning pets: a nine-tailed fox as spirit beast, it does come from asian mythology *not sure if written right*

i know were pretty spoiled with all in cata and i definatly don't expect we'll get that much again but i do hope for this :/
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All in all id just be happy to see the crane be tameable. We dont need a whole crapload of new pets dumped on us just as the gates opening, let that be strewn throughout the content. Make the tigers and cranes accessible for all the races, have the crane tameable, and i will be a very happy hunter.

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