Pandarian Translation?

[Demonicow]

hello id like to talk about translation between horde and alliance factions with the use of two pandaren for example you would be playing a toon of a certain faction setting next to a pandaren of the same faction and a toon of the opposite faction comes by and says something in a language you dont know and does /rasp and a u ask the pandaren who happens to be next to another pandaren of the opposite faction and u ask him what did he say? so the pandaren asks the other pandaren what he said and the other pandaren says he said so and so and then the first pandaren tells the guy thats what he said is it possible?



H/A toon Blahg Rawr! /rasp
A/H Toon WTF did that guy say?
A/H Pandaren lemme ask and see
A/H Pandaren hey dude what did that H/A toon just say
H/A Pandaren he said Usuck Lawl!
A/H Pandaren yeah the guy said etc
A/H k thx bai!

[Vephriel]

Horde and Alliance pandaren will not be able to communicate even though they're the same race. You'll just have to suspend disbelief for the purpose of game mechanics.

[Demonicow]

srsly pandaren language doenst work with pandaren language?

[Vephriel]

Again, it just requires a suspension of disbelief. It's the same with how Forsaken cannot speak Common (to Humans). They can't have cross-faction communication, so for gameplay purposes they will not allow Horde pandaren to speak with Alliance pandaren. It may not make much sense lore wise or if you think about it realistically, but sometimes mechanics just have to work that way in order to fit the gameplay.

[Makoes]

I can understand the main reasoning behind preventing A/H cross communication, due to how "well" that went with the Undead in vanilla...However, with so SO many factions consisting of both A/H races working and communicating with each other...it just doesnt make much sense to not allow cross faction communication, even creating something similar to the language filter, so that players can toggle the ability on/off as needed. MOP would be the perfect time to impliment such an option. (I did comment on this in the WoW Furums)

[Chimera]

While id be supportive of cross faction conversing, when you take into account the pea-sized brains of the troll (obviously not the race ) community, and those who play the game that take it WAAAAAAAAAY too seriously and totally bite the heads off the opposite faction players... i can only see WoW becoming a very verbally violent game.. its bad enough as it is but cross faction speech would just.. ._. makes me wish people were more polite in games

[Makoes]

but if it had a toggle on/off feature for the cross faction speech, it would be at the players discretion when/where to use it...sort of like being able to /leave trade /joine trade. Especially if they made it only work for say "/s" command communication. Since /s has a limited range, any "greifers" would have to be in closer proximity.

[Chimera]

/s range only would be good but i still am uneasy of the idea that the trolls are given even more feeding opportunities via this sort of gameplay.. it also ruins it for those who happen to be in the same range that are not trolls and are trying to have simple conversations or roleplay. The trolls obviously wont budge from their spot but its sort of a killer not being able to RP in a spot because others are ruining the experience and its not always easy to replace that spot if it happens to be unique like the worlds end tavern in shatt

[Makoes]

What I would like to see for Cross faction communication is something similar to how the language filter works. Something that can be toggled on/off at the players discretion. This would pretty much deal with any "griefing" that factions may try to do. Also allowing players to report Griefers cross faction like one can report ones own faction would also be helpful. There are just SOOOOO many NPC factions out there that are A/H where they can speak to each other just fine...there really isn't ANY reason to prevent players from being able to communicate cross faction now. Especially if a toggle feature was added.

Not only that, but if they made it so cross faction communication only worked with the /s command, that would further limit the amount of griefing since /s has a limited range at which it can be seen/read.

Gillonick was close with what I had in mind, but instead of making the neutral language "common" I'd call the neutral language "Azerothian"

Is what I posted on the WoW Forums

[Chimera]

again.. it ruins the experience for people who are trying to be courteous to eachother and those doing roleplay scenes that are in locations that are unique and/or prominent in their roleplay which happens to be at whatever point in time for them, infested with trollers. I dont particularly want to have to end my roleplay on my draenei with say, a tauren at the worlds end tavern while watching the band's performance because a couple trollers start going all up and down eachother cause they decided to start a fight. Yes reporting will obviously be applicable to cross faction conversations, thats already a given, but the time it would take for a GM to reply to the issue and then probably only give a warning, if that, its just not worth it.

[Makoes]

how is that any different then say if 2 alliance players where RPing in the worlds end and some other Alliance characters walts in and start griefing? reporting them would take just as long...Unless also implimenting a cross faction ignore feature could also be added to it...I am not saying that it would be easy to impliment, but I do think there is enough reason and interest in cross faction communication to warrent something being done to allow players to do so.


(apologies if I seem a bit pushy/opinionated on the subject...I am having a rough day....)

[Chimera]

derp.. i totally forgot we have an ignore function (i forget things like ignore and blacklist even exist 90% of the time).. i do know you can actively ignore people of same faction, opposite faction, and even from other realms. As to the 'how it is different' scenario.. trollers take cross faction trolling to a whole other level.. ive seen people and have been the victim of zealous players who are so set in what they believe (almost to the point where its religious) that it almost seems like, if they were to meet the person they were griefing to the extreme, the confrontation would end with a horrible end result.

If everyone was same faction, the trolling ive seen is no where near as extreme and its more just the player's are attacking eachother because of difference in opinion. They dont have that extra element in the mix that really seems to flare up aggression. I know its essentially the same concept but the degree of trolling varies greatly by such a simple thing and is reletively less stressful and aggravating when dealing with it. In my experience anywho. But again, i completely forgot about the ignore function >.>;;

i am all for this, believe me, i dont have RealID nor can i get RealID due to one of my accounts being an old parental controlled account that has locked that option and im not willing to spend an hour trying to get a hold of blizz on the phone to have the password reset. Id have to get my dad involved in it as well and he doesnt even remember the username of the parental control account he made to control my old account so its pretty much one horrible mess im not willing to go through to gain access to something i wouldnt even use anyways since i have no friends on WoW that id be willing to have on RealID.

I just had the scenario's in my mind where we didnt have the option to block other people out and that we'd end up having everyone go through the horrible experience of dealing with trollers on a level that is atm scarce due to the mechanic not existing and also /emote not a viable option for cross faction speaking and ultimately having the mechanic removed.

(yea, i read your rant earlier, really sorry to hear about your day )

[Makoes]

True enough. I know that the initial fiasco with the undead/alliance was the first/last time cross faction communication was implimented. WoW has grown so much since then, lore/characters/faction wise. There will always be the griefers, but I dont want to see the bad apple hold blizzard back from implimenting something to expand the game in a whole new direction.

Wait...you forgot the /ignore??? Geeze, I use that thing more often then I should...then again, weekend in trade are my max quote on the /ignore goal, lol.

(thanks )

[Chimera]

i dont ever hang out in the cities, usually im afk in there or too busy at the AH to respond to trade, let alone read it. sometimes i read it but i hardly ever talk in it XD it would be nice to change it lore wise to allow people to chat cross faction, like, ive probably met a dozen human npc's that are fluent in orcish while doing quests that involved them reading papers i find that self taught themselves! cant be thaaaaat hard lorewise to make an excuse for the gameplay mechanic, though blizz doesnt even need to make it lore based to impliment it. it will after all only affect players and not npc's

[Demonicow]

hey how do u do that Veph u changed ur sig between posts thats really cool, i have a theory but im unsure either blizz blocks language between individual languages by themselves and not from both factions completely so that pandaren would communicate before they implement a block or they have blocked all chat between both factions regardless of languages so that when u talk to a pandaren as a pandaren u dont understand the text and a final question if horde panderen and alliance pandaren have their own set of pandaren language per faction do pandren that are lvl 1-10(before faction choice) understand them and vice versa?
other factors may be at work other then the first two i mentioned this is just a theory so dont take it too seriously

[Chimera]

before you choose a faction im sure you'll be able to communicate but im sure theres some mechanic that will be involved that automatically activates when you complete the quest. They've gotten really good at phasing now so im sure they have the language barrier thing figured out and will be able to have it properly self-activate each time the quest is completed

[Vephriel]

hey how do u do that Veph u changed ur sig between posts thats really cool

It's a rotating signature, you can look up Rotasig or Signavatar.

[Worba]

Again, it just requires a suspension of disbelief. It's the same with how Forsaken cannot speak Common (to Humans). They can't have cross-faction communication, so for gameplay purposes they will not allow Horde pandaren to speak with Alliance pandaren. It may not make much sense lore wise or if you think about it realistically, but sometimes mechanics just have to work that way in order to fit the gameplay.

Only a partial suspension of disbelief - basically the two sides are just really pissed off at eachother and refuse to talk... and when they hear the other side chatting with someone they go "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOUUUU"

In all seriousness though... I for one am glad for the language barrier, no matter how much suspension of disbelief is required.

[Demonicow]

the reason for that is most likely because of too many angry horde members who had to deal with the whole deal with forsaken being considered undead, if blizz hadnt fucked us from the start we wouldnt have been so damn pissed about it back then and im sure alliance would have liked to have equality with the horde instead of being the ez mode then again i could be wrong.

Blizzard continues to favor the alliance lets take a look shall we how many dungeons do the alliance and horde have Alliance: 2 Horde:1 alliance dungeons are guarded with lvl 85 and 90 guards while ours arent guarded at all when u try to get the explorer achievement for azuremyst there are lvl 90 guards who 1-shot hordies and leave no way to get to ammen vale without dying where the sunstrider island can be accessed from any side not surprising. sorry for that rant

Moderator Note removed by poster :3

[Makoes]

I am not sure how Blizzard will handle the justification of Pandarian's no longer being able to communicate with eachother when they choose opposing factions. Atleast with the goblins it was a bit easier, them being on an isolated island.