Exotic beasts at any level for BM hunters?

[Ceravan]

Considering I've been leveling a monk, I haven't really looked at my hunters much, and now with the constant crashes and my hunters in major cities, it's hard to stay on them long enough to check anything out... so my question is this. If you go beast mastery, is it now automatic to be able to tame exotics, or what level does that come in at? And the talent calculator on the MoP website is already way outdated compared to what's currently in beta, so not relying on that as accurate.

[Worba]

It's been a while, but last I checked tame exotics was a lvl 69 spell in mop.

Would love for this to become an automatic / lvl 10 / or core passive type thing for BM though - they should have done that back in 4.0.

[Mustasch]

absolutely not. exotics should stay where they currently are in live at 74.

[Bonita]

Id love for it to be lvl 10, but I believe it is staying as lvl 69

[Makoes]

lv 74? ...its lv 69 on live realm.

I would love for the ability to tame exotics to be a core ability of BM spec. Considering how many exotics are far below the lv 69 mark, it would be nice to actually get them at their level and not have to go back later. However, I wouldnt mind trading off and getting the exotic beasts 2nd ability at lv 69 instead. that way, leveling up they wouldnt be that OP.

[Shade]

Honestly cannot see them changing it-the ability to have exotics is the 'ultimate' ability/talent for BM hunters-just like Black Arrow is for SV and Chimera shot is for MM.

If they changed it, they'd have to give BM hunters some 'ultimate' spell at level 69 to go along with the MM and SV top spells/talents. Only thing I could think of that would be comparable would be something like Bestial Wrath swapped with the Exotics at level 69-and it would really tick me off to wait that long for my Wrath on a BM hunter I would be leveling.

No, I think it is fair to make BM wait to get exotics at a higher level-getting the exotics is increase for them, with all the abilities and buffs that the exotics bring.

[Shinryu Masaki]

absolutely not. exotics should stay where they currently are in live at 74.

While I really would want them to be given at level 10, I'm curious to know why you seem adamant about keeping them at a higher level. If it has to do with Ancient Hysteria, there's some easy solution to this, like making the Core Hounds only learn it at lvl 69, or making it scale with level, starting a 1% for lvl 10 and going up to it's current 30% at lvl 69. Still, with how low our stats are before going into Northrend, having it stay at 30% wouldn't change much of anything.

I always kind of found it disheartening to wait 59 levels to get Exotic pets when chosing BM as a spec, while MM and SV got their special shots at lvl 10 while BM only had a 3 sec stun on a 1 min cooldown. But now with Kill Command being BM only, making it our special shot, and Longevity being merged with Exotic pet taming, if Blizzard was to give it to us at lvl 10 too they'd have to replace it with something else, which could be a problem to find something interesting to place there.

[Wain]

absolutely not. exotics should stay where they currently are in live at 74.

Translating this from "WoW Official Forums Hyperbolespeak" to Petopia forums standard:

"My personal preference is that they stay as they are, because..."

[Chimera]

absolutely not. exotics should stay where they currently are in live at 74.

The talent is for lvl 69+....... and pretty harsh there with the punctuation and the word 'absolutely'. Just cause you dont want them tameable at low levels doesnt mean its welcoming to bite the hands of the people wishing they were tameable at lower levels.

I would love to see it lowered, nerfed in some way and then its full potential unlocked at 69, but i am content with it remaining at 69 so im indifferent. I support those wishing for it to lower, especially since we are having our talent trees completely removed and instead getting like what, 4-5 tiers of talents with 3 talents per? Who knows. Its all up in the air right now but its hopeful, curious, and a little worrisome waiting to find out info on whats happening to the ability to tame exotics. (i havent read anything talking about the talent in MoP except its getting a different name so i have no idea how much info we actually have on it currently)

[Gimlion]

I must agree with Mustasch. Being able to tame Exotics at 69 feels like you're finally learning to handle the stronger, more, well... EXOTIC beasts. It feels like you've put your training in, and are finally learned enough to convince these beasts of higher standing to be a companion.

Although, I also like the idea of 2nd abilities being unlocked at 69, as it would be much the same to me, only rather than being learned enough to befriend exotic pets, It's like your understanding of beasts allows you to tap into certain beasts, giving insight into these exotic companions, unlocking their full potential.

Personally, I miss class quests that put lore like this into a class. For all mechanics sake, a DK is nothing more than a Warrior with shadow damage and runes. I'd prefer the days of truly KNOWING one's class.

Also, Xakaal, it's no longer a talent in MoP, it's just an innate level 69 ability taught by Hunter Trainers to all BM hunters.

[Chimera]

Also, Xakaal, it's no longer a talent in MoP, it's just an innate level 69 ability taught by Hunter Trainers to all BM hunters.

Oooh, awesome!

I really really hope this expansion doesnt tax our gold on spells alone like it was when you had to constantly buy each new stroger version of your already existing spells :S The fact we're buying all those abilities that were transferred and also new spells and already existing spells we have in live, it gets costly

[Bonita]

I think you just learn the spell when you level. No more going to trainers and learning them

[Shinryu Masaki]

Yep, trainers are just there to reset our spec, talents, glyphs, and to learn Dual Spec.

Also Xakaal, the pet part of the Longevity talent, where it reduces their skill's cooldown timer, is merged with taming Exotic pets, so not only do we get to tame Exotics at lvl 69, all our pet's skills can be used faster. That's a nice compromise imho.

[Chimera]

omg omg omg omg omg /mind blown and dies from joy.

[Andine]

If you ask me, exotics should be tameable for even level 10 Beastmasters, but for balance concerns, make the exotic abilities unlock at 69.

[Azunara]

Whoa guys. No need to jump down that poor guy's throat. I think you are reading -far- too much in between the lines.

On topic, eh. Either or for me. If they do become tamed at tamed at 10, I agree, something awesome would have to replace the level 69 talent.

[MaximumOverdrive]

Exotics as a core ability would be nice. And really, 30% haste at level 10...not like it's a huge increase, you'd barely have any haste at all to begin with. At least it would be nice to have exotics again before Outland.

[Redith]

Exotics as a core ability would be nice. And really, 30% haste at level 10...not like it's a huge increase, you'd barely have any haste at all to begin with. At least it would be nice to have exotics again before Outland.

I agree

[Quiv]

To me, when one specializes as a master of Beasts, taming exotics should come with that. The beast master rotation is not the thematic reason for specializing as BM, the exotics are. Hunters in general dont have the ability (the mastery) to tame exotic beasts, but a Beast master does. A hunter can master beasts, but a beast master can master the "exotic" beasts. I see it absolutely no different than a mage who can master spells, but a Fire mage master Fire spells. As he grows, he unlocks their full potential, but he is still a fire mage all the way from level 10. A beast master hunter who cant tame even a simple version of an exotic is a fireless fire mage to me (or a fire mage who has no extra mastery over fire than any other mage).

And only after years (levels) of training is he able to unlock the beasts full potential (exotic ability/lowered CD). Keeping exotic abilities later at level 69 also keeps exotics from throwing things out of balance during pre-69 content. For all sakes and purposes, a Devilsaur without its exotic ability is just a big stompy wolf.

I also heard someone suggest that all hunters should be able to tame all beasts that are flagged as tameable, but the Beast Master unlock the beasts family fullest potential (IE the exotic ability). Though this implementation would possibly require exotic abilities for more/all families, I like it. I dont like the idea that certain pets are locked to a certain playstyle when playstyle isnt thematic, its mechanic.

Think of all those poor pre-69 exotics that we walk pass...

[Vephriel]

I really like the idea of having the ability to tame exotics come baseline when you select Beast Mastery. I agree that the exotic abilities themselves should stay locked until a higher level, but there are plenty of exotic pets available at low levels (even if the majority are higher). I don't see them harm in letting a BM hunter tame them from the start, and then get the powerful abilities later when they'd be more appropriate.