How I feel about MoP tameable "rares"

[Slickrock]

Half of those "standards" are not unique models (though they are no less striking for it).

I'm puzzled as to why Wrath is being held up as the definition of what rares "should" be. There were rares in vanilla - in fact, there were many rares in vanilla that had the same skin as commons. Still do, for that matter.

But the skins were unique enough to really stand out.

Regarding Vanilla... that's when rares were for the killing...

[Slickrock]

Probably because of the introduction of spirit beasts, a family made entirely of rares.

That too.

[Kalliope]

True enough, but that's spirit beasts, not other rares (with perhaps the exception of Aotona, who was the only parrot anywhere until Cata). Cataclysm especially started pushing us back toward the recoloring concept for rare pets. Sure, we had Sambas too, but there are a LOT of recolors in Cataclysm.

In other words, Wrath and the spirit beasts are the exception, not the rule.

[Slickrock]

True enough, but that's spirit beasts, not other rares (with perhaps the exception of Aotona, who was the only parrot anywhere until Cata). Cataclysm especially started pushing us back toward the recoloring concept for rare pets. Sure, we had Sambas too, but there are a LOT of recolors in Cataclysm.

In other words, Wrath and the spirit beasts are the exception, not the rule.

And a certain fire turtle, and a few more spirit beasts...

Like I said earlier, the real test will be what they do with the spirit beasts in 5.1.

[Makoes]

Just look at it this way, they don't have to give us anything...really, they could just shove us all into a warlock situation where we have very limited pets, they are completely situational, the names are random generated, and there's no spec.

But look what we have, everything they've done for our class, and these newest set, to even go so far as to create this mechanism to help prevent people from greifing us as we hunt down a pet we really want...

so what if its a re-color, so what if there's no unique skin/model...there could be NOTHING. We are one class among many, and yet look at all the attention we get.

[Kalliope]

True enough, but that's spirit beasts, not other rares (with perhaps the exception of Aotona, who was the only parrot anywhere until Cata). Cataclysm especially started pushing us back toward the recoloring concept for rare pets. Sure, we had Sambas too, but there are a LOT of recolors in Cataclysm.

In other words, Wrath and the spirit beasts are the exception, not the rule.

And a certain fire turtle, and a few more spirit beasts...

Like I said earlier, the real test will be what they do with the spirit beasts in 5.1.

You can have the fire turtle, Banny, Skarr, and GC, but everyone else was a recolor/previously existing model.

Indeed, we shall see what 5.1 holds! ^_^

[Slickrock]

Just look at it this way, they don't have to give us anything...really, they could just shove us all into a warlock situation where we have very limited pets, they are completely situational, the names are random generated, and there's no spec.

But look what we have, everything they've done for our class, and these newest set, to even go so far as to create this mechanism to help prevent people from greifing us as we hunt down a pet we really want...

so what if its a re-color, so what if there's no unique skin/model...there could be NOTHING. We are one class among many, and yet look at all the attention we get.

now you're talking like a paladin... lol

[SpiritBinder]

Like I said earlier, the real test will be what they do with the spirit beasts in 5.1.

as apposed to the, fake test?

Gosh I hope blizzard passes the real one, it would be awful if they flunked the spirit beast test.
Would they have to go back to spirit beast studies?!? Would they have to sit and exam or would it be a practical?!? Would they get a hex debt?!? omg I'm really starting to worry now...

[Kalliope]

Like I said earlier, the real test will be what they do with the spirit beasts in 5.1.

as apposed to the, fake test?

Gosh I hope blizzard passes the real one, it would be awful if they flunked the spirit beast test.
Would they have to go back to spirit beast studies?!? Would they have to sit and exam or would it be a practical?!? Would they get a hex debt?!? omg I'm really starting to worry now...

And now I'm picturing Loque with glasses on, squinting at the books....

[Gelannerai]

Like I said earlier, the real test will be what they do with the spirit beasts in 5.1.

as apposed to the, fake test?

Gosh I hope blizzard passes the real one, it would be awful if they flunked the spirit beast test.
Would they have to go back to spirit beast studies?!? Would they have to sit and exam or would it be a practical?!? Would they get a hex debt?!? omg I'm really starting to worry now...

And now I'm picturing Loque with glasses on, squinting at the books....

While Skoll is passed out on the couch in a slack-jawed drunken stupor, and Arcturis is getting beaten by Gondria on Street Fighter AGAIN.

I really liked college.

[Kalliope]

And now I'm picturing Loque with glasses on, squinting at the books....

While Skoll is passed out on the couch in a slack-jawed drunken stupor, and Arcturis is getting beaten by Gondria on Street Fighter AGAIN.

I really liked college.

Arcturis: THIS CONTROLLER WAS NOT MEANT FOR BEARS! RAAAAAAAGH!

[PorrasouxRex]

I apologize if I have offended anyone with my posts. I understand some parts were a bit rude and obnoxious, and I'm sorry for that. I guess I'm just disappointed (In my opinion) with the pet families we were given, outside of Water Striders and Quilens. Plus the whole "Mushans and Yaks won't be tameabe" is still something I'm trying to accept. I didn't mean to offend, and the "Well everything is a re-model or a reskin in WoW, silly little hunter" or "Your arguement is invalid" It is not an arguement, it was a "feeling" in my mind.

To me, Nuramoc, King Krush, Sambas, and other rares....they just had this feeling of being rare. Same with Humar before a common one was introduced. Or Madexx. These, not so much.

However, rares like Savage, now that I really look at it, is exactly how I feel what rares should be. Just these tiny details, such as shining blue eyes with no pupils. Rares shouldn't be just another color, especially with how much time you spend looking for them. Rares should atleast have something unique about the model, even if just a small minor detail. My personal view with rares like King Krush and Nuramoc is because the color, to me fits with the species very well, but the overall theme of it is rare to obtain.

[Wain]

It was a worthwhile topic. Not everyone can be excited by what we get every time and it's too easy to get your hopes up by imagining what you'd like to see and then it doesn't appear. That happens to everyone from time to time. But some people are exceedingly happy. Some not so, which is fair enough. And a few others will look for any reason to be cynical in an open forum under the misguided feeling that it increases their standing (it doesn't!).

I would agree that there are fewer eye-popping rares this time. But almost all of that is because Noah really spoiled us at the start of Cata. An enormous horde of previously untameable creatures and skins was introduced at once, so there wasn't so much left. On top of that the art department created some really exciting models for other purposes that luckily happened to be useful as beasts as well (Nemesis that became Terrorpene and the faction mounts that became Sambas and Madexx). And then he also made Chromaggus tameable. So many amazing things came at once. But none of it was created for hunters. Noah and Co. just had the luxury of using it all. And they really didn't hold back.

In this expansion, I believe the art quality of the new beasts is higher than ever before. But because all the models are used by common beasts they aren't as eye-catching, we're too used to them already. Plus, you know, they're not all glowy and fiery like Terrorpene. If we have 6 different colours of Sambas wandering all over the place we'd probably find him just as non-eye-catching, though. Just like if we had one frost tiger amongst a world of old model tigers we'd probably go "wow!".

Then again the white spore walker is about as exotic and eye-catching as it gets, but we're already used to it so it can be a bit overlooked.

They *could* use the god crane and god tiger models for rares, and may still. Those would be the equivalents of Terrorpene in fanciness. As I mentioned once before, I don't expect the tiger too soon: monks have just got it as their pet and I suspect they'd want to let it be unique to them for a while at least. As for the crane, we can hope!

[Slickrock]

I'll refrain from posting my opinion, since it just results in flak.

[swimgremlin]

I'm happy with the new style of finding these pets. It's really unique and great that we can't be griefed as we were in the past (remembers camping King Krush for 9 months after WotLK hit).

As for their looks, I mean, they're cool. I like the tiger and goat alot, but I had no real plans for updating my stables anyway. I've been really happy with the pets I've had since WotLK, and I don't see me changing it up soon. The one exception I would make is if they gave core hounds the demon core hound skin as a beast. That'd be nifty, because that's one of my favorite models in game.

All and all, us hunters have more customization that any other class in game. I'm very happy with the new models and families in general. I hope Blizzard continues to knock out more pets for us in the future and throw more challenge tames at us.

[Kalliope]

Beautifully said, Wain.

[Shade]

I think it will be really interesting to try this out. I really like how we are not going to have to deal with non-hunters hunting up the pets that we are after just to kill them. I'm a bit irritated about the pink crane being the one that got chosen to be the crane version of this-mainly because I was planning on running and taming one as soon as I was able to and now I'm going to have to hunt for him for awhile, bah.

It is a really neat concept on how to do the tames, though I'll reserve judgement for it until I get to try it out (I removed beta from my comp and am wanting to wait till it goes live to see what changes since I was in beta). I envision myself stalking through the Jade Forest cursing the concept until I find the creature that I am after.

As to these rares just being recolors of common types, I'm not too upset by it really. We're all the Cata rares the same? Banny is lovely-but he is a shineir version of Olm, the tigers were just differnt colored Gondrias, and the lava spiders are all 'recolors' of the spiders already in the molten front. Terrorpene was neat-but he was still a turtle, just more awesome looking. Karoma-gorgeous spirit beast, but he is a transparent small wolf. Chrommagus, Sambas and Loque are the only really unique versions of pets to me. *shrug*

I'm just happy that we are getting so many interesting species to choose from this expansion. The cranes and the water striders are awesome, and the quilen? I already have my favorite colors of the ones I'm after bookmarked and will have a lot of fun getting them ASAP to explore Pandaria with them along side me. I'm pretty happy that while I want one, maybe two of these new rares, I'm not going to get in that 'gotta catch it now' mentality that I did with Skarr in the molten front, or Sambas in Twilight Highlands (and I never did actually keep him on my main...) because there are common versions of the same beast ready to tame and go. It'll keep me from waking up every two hours when I should be sleeping because I have the dream again where I just logged out and Skarr spawned and someone logged in to get him because I wasnt there, lol. A lot of the fun raiding that went on when the Molten Front was released I missed out on because I was so OCD about getting Skarr (who I didn't get, by the way, till a few months later when I had given up and another hunter whispered me that he was up).

Yes, it'd be nice to see more (rare yak spirit beast!!!), but I'm happy with what we have so far, because I wasn't expecting so many families this expansion. (And because my hunter can finally water walk like my shaman!!! *squee*)

[Poearia]

I love that hunters actually get to track their tames now It's been fun testing this out on the Beta :3! And do we know if these are the final skins for those beasts atm? Blizz could surprise us and have a ton of skins just waiting to be added to make us gush come actual MoP release ;3

[Kalliope]

Since they're all unique, these are most likely locked. That doesn't mean we won't get anything new during the rest of the expansion, though.

[Drayk]

I love the new method of taming them a lot, I never thought we'd get something like this but I agree that they don't seem as flashier as the past rares.

After looking them over a bit a few of them I actually changed my mind on and am OK with, mainly
-Savage(his bright fur and glowing eyes set him apart)
-Patrannache(awesome pink model and I love the throwback to Mazzranache)
-Glimmer(unique "fiercer" mount model)
-Portent(special "adorned" model fits it)

I don't think these others are horrible just not as impressed I guess seeing at they had some other models they could have saved but used on common mobs like Skoll's lighter skin, the amber scorpion, the zombie bear(not tamable but they did use it's skin), the jade cat(I think there might be more jeweled cats too and even another owl?) or even the yellow wind serpent. Seeing as how they'd been saving and changing skins to keep them unique they could have used those instead.

Beta is Beta though and things could change, or they could stay the same I'm just holding out hope for the new spirit beasts to be more to my taste(and hopefully less blue and transparent xD)