Losing Kiril proc

[Quiv]

Anyone know off hand how this is going to affect our dps. I know every class is losing the stats on the "ranged" slot and how our ranged weapon is gaining MH stat budget (and increasing in DPS). I know we end up being over hit cap though my extra hit will go to expertise anyway. Considering to hit those caps, we will lose other secondary stats, and missing the periodic proc, I can't help but think this will be a net loss at 85?

Again I know all classes are affected by this change, but I think hunters are the only ones that lose a reliable proc from it. I dont think the Madness bow procs for rogues during normal rotation, but idk.

Out of the gate stat comparison (I used two races that dont have any passive bonuses like crit)

[Lisaara]

Numbers are different in MoP.

[MaximumOverdrive]

Not really sure this is a big deal now, since the weapon will be obsolete soon anyways with the expansion. I dunno about your server, but the majority of raiding guilds on mine aren't running stuff any more til MoP comes out now.

[Maizou]

The base damage you do with the bow went up, if you notice. A good 2,000 more than before.

[Lisaara]

Yup. Look at your base damage. Instead of 7k, it's 9k.

[swimgremlin]

I'll be soooooo happy to have the Kiril proc gone. I'm Tauren, and on boss fights where you stack (ie. Azibal), you go from 15yrds away to melee range. -_-

Of course the no min hit requirement fixes this as well, but I had to make a macro to disable the Kiril buff for certin fights.

[Kalliope]

I'll be soooooo happy to have the Kiril proc gone. I'm Tauren, and on boss fights where you stack (ie. Azibal), you go from 15yrds away to melee range. -_-

I had no idea that happened! D:

[swimgremlin]

Yeah, fights like Azabal and Zon'ozz you choose between standing back to dps and possibly not receiving the healing needed or do melee/kill command/ traps.

[Vephriel]

Yeeahh, Kiril's size thing was a pain in a few fights where you suddenly found your own hitbox increased, making you much closer to a boss than you liked. Also I always seem to get it right before I need to go through a door and it's just an annoyance. >.<

[Wain]

Yeeahh, Kiril's size thing was a pain in a few fights where you suddenly found your own hitbox increased, making you much closer to a boss than you liked. Also I always seem to get it right before I need to go through a door and it's just an annoyance. >.<

Oh my god, yes, I can't wait to get rid of it! Especially as a tauren.

It was pretty horrible that the standard top-line weapon for a hunter this tier was one that could so badly interfere with our combat, for the sake of a purely cosmetic growth effect. The growth was cool and all, but not at the expense of combat.

[Lisaara]

Damn I didn't know that! Good riddance then.

[Quiv]

lol wow i didn't know the size thing was causing all those problems. i will miss seeing GIANT BEAR TANKS though.

and I did a couple "tests" and i noticed a 2k dps increase from live to 85 with 5.0.4. All is well

[Kalliope]

lol wow i didn't know the size thing was causing all those problems. i will miss seeing GIANT BEAR TANKS though.

and I did a couple "tests" and i noticed a 2k dps increase from live to 85 with 5.0.4. All is well

Bears won't need to stop using it. Druids still have stat sticks.

[Quiv]

lol wow i didn't know the size thing was causing all those problems. i will miss seeing GIANT BEAR TANKS though.

and I did a couple "tests" and i noticed a 2k dps increase from live to 85 with 5.0.4. All is well

Bears won't need to stop using it. Druids still have stat sticks.

Right.

I knew that, of course.

Pfft of course I knew that.

No I completely forgot -_-