Rants/Raves/Thoughts On 5.2 Tameables

[Slickrock]

I was going to say something much ruder and more blunt here, but I'll just say that some people need to take a step outside and get a little perspective.. there are plenty of pets to tame in the game, and Blizz really doesn't have to make every beast in the game tameable to suit the whims of one class.

[Equeon]

Hydras have already got a reason why they're not tameable. Not to sound rude or anything(and it's not directed at anyone in particular cause I hear this all over the place) but I wish people would quit asking why they're not tameable. Blizz said why. They don't like the model and they're right. There's issues with it and they wanna spiff it up. We just need to be patient.

I thought about this specifically (and also about some of the other models) but I felt that if I didn't include them in that massive list, someone would cry foul.

I can't wait for the day that better hydra models are introduced, though.

[Aggannor]

Well, let's all remember that PTR is still relatively young. All raid encounters haven't been tested on even one difficulty, Warlock-chain isn't available and so on. We may still see a lot of changes to hunter pets.

[Lisaara]

Hydras have already got a reason why they're not tameable. Not to sound rude or anything(and it's not directed at anyone in particular cause I hear this all over the place) but I wish people would quit asking why they're not tameable. Blizz said why. They don't like the model and they're right. There's issues with it and they wanna spiff it up. We just need to be patient.

I thought about this specifically (and also about some of the other models) but I felt that if I didn't include them in that massive list, someone would cry foul.

I can't wait for the day that better hydra models are introduced, though.

Hehe. Like I said, it wasn't directed at any person specifically. Just tired of hearing it. Here, in-game, on wow forums...it's everywhere and it makes me wanna flip tables sometimes. x3 You're probably right though!

Same. The boss model we saw was pretty wicked cool lookin.

[Zhinru]

and Blizz really doesn't have to make every beast in the game tameable to suit the whims of one class.

Tell me something I didn't hear a thousand times from jealous death knights who wish they could just tame undead.

[Wain]

I've removed one post that overstepped the "inflammatory" line.

I was going to say something much ruder and more blunt here, but I'll just say that some people need to take a step outside and get a little perspective.. there are plenty of pets to tame in the game, and Blizz really doesn't have to make every beast in the game tameable to suit the whims of one class.

While I'd agree with you, this is also a designated "rant/rave" thread, so people can be more candid about their personal feelings here. Not anywhere near as explicitly as our general Rant thread, but a bit more than usual at least. Plus if you think they're being ungrateful there are far more tactful, and also more effective, ways of expressing it.

[Qraljar]

and Blizz really doesn't have to make every beast in the game tameable to suit the whims of one class.

Tell me something I didn't hear a thousand times from jealous death knights who wish they could just tame undead.

Heh, I wish Unholy Death Knights could permacontrol undead creatures like "tame beast" and I still wouldn't mind it if a majority of all beasts became tameable.


I do see what you are referring to, though.

[Snowy]

It's my opinion.


Also, I'm not saying it's disappointing in general, but in terms of -potential-. There are a lot of beast models that could easily be added for hunters because they already exist or are added in 5.2 but don't get used.

Yes I know it's your opinion. ^^ I was stating my... opinion on your opinion, I guess.

There is potential for lots of pets. But some of those beasts in the list Equeon listed, in fact, most of those beasts, aren't ones we should consider as 'tameable'. A lot of them, such as talbuks, rams and the new pterrowings are more so made as mounts than pets. This of course is just my personal opinion, but a lot of those beasts I don't see as ones we should tame.

But indeed, this is a rant/rave thread, people are allowed their more negative opinions without people digging at them for it. But don't worry, Junrei, I get sick of hearing about hydras too.

[Equeon]

But some of those beasts in the list Equeon listed, in fact, most of those beasts, aren't ones we should consider as 'tameable'. A lot of them, such as talbuks, rams and the new pterrowings are more so made as mounts than pets. This of course is just my personal opinion, but a lot of those beasts I don't see as ones we should tame.

I put many of those beasts there with the "goat" philosophy in mind. Goats in Pandaria are mounts, but also domesticated and farmed: and thus can be tamed by hunters. Is there a major difference between a goat and a talbuk? Should talbuks not be tamed just because they're not kept in pens most of the time?
And for rams... they're just a different model of goat. They're domesticated by the dwarves just as the Pandaren and Hozen keep goats.

Both styles of pterrordax are found ingame as hunter pets (they pull alongside a master, and have the title <So-and-so's Pet>)

Many of us who hope for such beasts to become tameable use the logic:
1.) If an NPC with hunter abilities can tame it, and...
2.) It's a normal beast (not an elemental or humanoid or something,) then...
3.) Why can't we tame it?
Of course there's the "Blizzard didn't think of that/didn't want to add them yet" part of the whole deal, but in terms of could we have those pets, I believe it's a fair argument.

[Bulletdance]

I'd love to tame a pterrawing, but I worry a little about them blocking the view of other players with their wings, but if they attack like raptors and keep the wings in then it wouldn't be a big deal. I'm not liking the spirit beasts at all this time around and am a little excited about the new raptor skin and the triceratops, but I'm not sure if they are worth getting rid of a pet i already have. I'll have to see them in game.

[Snowy]

I put many of those beasts there with the "goat" philosophy in mind. Goats in Pandaria are mounts, but also domesticated and farmed: and thus can be tamed by hunters. Is there a major difference between a goat and a talbuk? Should talbuks not be tamed just because they're not kept in pens most of the time?

To answer this simply with my own opinion, I never thought goats should've been tameable hunter pets. I'm not sure why, perhaps it's because they're larger than most goats in real life. Something about them always irked me though, as if they only suited being mounts. I tried having one as a pet to test this but it didn't last long. It felt... odd. I can't explain it though!

But... Perhaps some of these *are* planned to be tameable one day. Maybe they're thinking of a nice time to introduce them? It's all up to Blizzard. I wish I could explain their decisions.

[Novikova]

I love my goat and I would love a talbuk. I'm of the opinion that choice, freedom and enjoyment are priority. More pets, mo' better in my opinion. I just need more freaking stable space.

I get that people get jealous because hunters have tameables, but I think they forget the work and hazard involved. A hunter taming is pvp bait/free honor in many places. It's not hard to kill the pet while he tames, either. There's a lot of knowing what pets work in raids and which might not.

[Snowy]

I do think we're getting to the stage now where they need to think about upping the stable spaces again...

[Loki]

Ever since Vanilla I've been waiting to get some sort of hoofed creature as a pet (stag, giraffe, gazelle). In TBC I really liked the talbuks and spent ages doing my first proper farming to get the mounts, but I really wanted one as a pet. In MoP, when they did the art panel at Blizzcon where they announced the expansion, they had a little picture on one of their slides with yaks, and I knew I wanted one straight away. I've been disappointed every time we've had a new family added without one of these, even though they have added other great pets; these animals are basically a big list of my favorite animals in real life. The goat was a good step forward but the more I used mine the more his face looks ... odd and although I do still bring him out I don't use him as much any more. I think it's a bit harsh to call me "entitled", I just want to be able to use my favorite animals in real life as pets in the game, and I know Blizzard doesn't have to add any of them ever but I really hope they do; I think the yak teaser on the beta was the worst. I've been surprised at some of the additions over any of these which I thought we were unlikely to ever get (arcane wyrms, Outland water striders) so there is hope but it's certainly frustrating.

[Snowy]

I never wanted people to be deprived of their favourite animals just because of my opinions. ): Besides, various other beasts being tameable barely affects me - if I don't like it, I don't tame it. So, yes, in reality, I do want to see a wider range of beasts being made tameable in the future because I want to see people get what they want!

Myself, I'd adore to be able to tame one of those skeletal/fiery Firelands dogs!

[Loki]

I never wanted people to be deprived of their favourite animals just because of my opinions. ): Besides, various other beasts being tameable barely affects me - if I don't like it, I don't tame it.

Yeah, that wasn't directed at you, don't worry; just a general comment.

[Slickrock]

The problem with most of the beasts mentioned is they either need major model fixes (hydras) or need a lot of animations added (talbuks) which likely requires model changes as well. I think Blizz likely does analysis on what pets people own, and use that as a guide, in addition to following their own dev reasons.

Given the lackluster response to goats, I don't see them them doing talbuks anytime soon. When did you last see a goat in a raid or BG?

I do strongly agree they should add yaks back, they feel like pets.

However...

As a community I think we can give better less emotional feedback to Blizz to get our wishes across. The emotional responses don't add well to the discussion. It also can limit the usefulness of these forums to new hunters.

Oh, the ptrerrowings... I wonder if they would scale well down to the size of chimeras when tamed. Personally I still think they would be annoying in raids, but that can have advantages in pvp.

[Slickrock]

One other idea that I think would help with opening up pet families... Id like to see the option to somehow remove or change the pvp talented pets to have pave oriented talents in raids and such. Especially the pets with snares and stuns are hard to bring when you know theres a pet that can actually help dps oe bring a better buff.

[Loki]

The problem with most of the beasts mentioned is they either need major model fixes (hydras) or need a lot of animations added (talbuks) which likely requires model changes as well. I think Blizz likely does analysis on what pets people own, and use that as a guide, in addition to following their own dev reasons.

Given the lackluster response to goats, I don't see them them doing talbuks anytime soon. When did you last see a goat in a raid or BG?

I do strongly agree they should add yaks back, they feel like pets.

However...

As a community I think we can give better less emotional feedback to Blizz to get our wishes across. The emotional responses don't add well to the discussion. It also can limit the usefulness of these forums to new hunters.

Oh, the ptrerrowings... I wonder if they would scale well down to the size of chimeras when tamed. Personally I still think they would be annoying in raids, but that can have advantages in pvp.

I don't think talbuks need animations though. The skeleton has everything that it needs rigged up as far as I can tell since it shares the goat skeleton, which is a pet, and borrows animations from the talbuk mounts.

[Equeon]

As a community I think we can give better less emotional feedback to Blizz to get our wishes across. The emotional responses don't add well to the discussion. It also can limit the usefulness of these forums to new hunters.

I don't see a lot of people being overly "emotional" about it. So far, no one in this thread has posted

BWAAHHH WHY CAN'T WE HAVE HYDRAS BLIZZ??!! WHY??!!!

If emotional to you means being thoughtful and wishing for something, then yes: I and many others are guilty of that. We, at least the ones in this thread, are not crying and begging, just asking/wondering why we can't tame certain beasts.
This is also a rant/rave/thought thread in a forum about hunter pets. If this was the official WoW forum I would completely understand the last point of yours. But I don't know why a new hunter would be limited if he or she decided to peruse such a thread. If our deepest pet wishes can't be posted here, in a conversation about an upcoming patch, where do they belong?