Anansi wrote:[
Hardly. The entire Westfall zone where the Defias are located is dedicated to the story of the Defias Brotherhood. The Wetlands are not dedicated to the tale of the Dragonmaw, they are only there really for quests for both Horde and Alliance (same goals ultimately). The Dragonmaw got more coverage in TBC, but those are also the Dragonmaw of Draenor, not Azeroth. The Dragonmaw in the Wetlands are remnants of the tribe led by Zuluhed after he returned to Draenor and came under the service of Illidan.
Er did I ever mention westfall? No I said it'd be like if I rolled a human and walked up to a defias. And the Defias are everywhere, not just Westfall.
The Dragonmaw allied with Blackhand after being manipulated by Deathwing into finding the Demon Soul. The current Dragonmaw are led by the son of Nekros (to whom Deathwing entrusted the Demon Soul), who is allied with Rend Blackhand. But after all the events we've been through, with the fall of Blackhand, the killing of Nekrosh (the Dragonmaw leader and son of Nekros) and now the return of Deathwing, it makes perfect lore sense for the Dragonmaw to be welcomed into the Horde.
After all, the Orcs in general know what it's like to be enslaved, deceived and controlled against their wills.
There's still the stigma around the orcs, IE they were dragonslavers before, what if they do so again? It'd be a different story if they drop their 'dragonmaw clan' title and picked up something else. Cause until proven otherwise I don't believe they've really changed their ways, I mean it couldn't all have been from brainwashing/controlling and etc like that. I mean this would be like accepting the sandfury trolls into the horde, or the Hakkari and etc. Oh sure, Hakkar did control the gods/trolls in there- but not all the trolls were controlled. The majority are still evil.
If this was Thrall or Saurfang we were talking about, making this decision/pulling the scraps of dragonmaws into the horde, then I wouldn't question it because obviously Thrall and Saurfang found some good orcs.. right? They couldn't be off their rocker, right? But this is Garrosh we're talking about, 'perfect' or not, it still sounds like Blizz is forcing the little pill of evil down all of Horde's throats, holding our noses and making us swallow it.
Mean as it is now it sounds worse than when Horde got Belves.
I have no idea what you're saying here. Alexstraza was held captive by the Demon Soul and thus Zuluhed used the dragons to fight for the Horde. Now he is dead on Draenor, Nekrosh is dead on Azeroth, the old Horde wiped out. The Dragonmaw that remain on Azeroth are just Orcs that happened to be on the losing side. Now Garrosh is offering them a home, I'm not sure what the issue here is.
Yeah and Dragonmaw used her children, does it really matter who or what held her captive? They still used her children, forced them into servitude and slavery.
And we don't really know if they are just plain simple orcs wanting/needing a home like the Darkspear trolls. If they turn out to be no worse than Darkspear trolls, then fine so be it. But the simple thing is afaik the majority of the darkspear trolls never did half as much crap as the dragonmaw are infamous for :/
oh sure they were cannables but they got better...
This is why I and others are complaining because Blizzard went lol and threw out Dragonmaw for horde, with very little information revealed. Yet we know basically why Wildhammer are with Alliance. But the Dragonmaw? I mean if Thrall ignored them for so long there has to be a reason :/
I mean the Rivantusk trolls make more sense atm, than Dragonmaw.
