Hunter Changes in 5.4
Treat others with respect. Report, don't respond. Read the complete forum rules.
- Ariamodasu
- Artisan Hunter
- Posts: 544
- Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 4:18 am
- Realm: Hellscream (EU) | Terokkar (EU) | Bloodhoof (EU)
- Gender: Agender
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
Gonna have to rush gear Mits so can attempt OS3D 25man and pull Sendeni out of Vortex farming to get raptors before I lose my silence wonderful. Aria is too damn vulnerable (More so with the Moonkin now losing damage reduction, what) to handle these things as Balance which is why I relied on a Hunter alt to help.
-
Rest in Peace Yasindra/Ryai
- Gimlion
- Grand Master Hunter
- Posts: 1911
- Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:57 am
- Realm: Nordrassil
- Gender: Male
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
"You cannot judge me, I am Justice itself! We were meant for more than this, to protect the innocent. But, if our precious laws bind you all to inaction, then I will no longer stand as your brother." - Tyrael
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
On the bright side, Nature's Swiftness is being replaced by what looks like a new heal:
"Ysera's Gift, a new talent healing the Druid for 5% of their maximum health every 5 seconds. If the Druid is at full health, it will heal the most injured friendly target nearby instead. This talent fills the spot vacated by Nature's Swiftness."
(from the patch notes)
On the PTR it is passive and has a 100yrd range.
I liked the nice, insta-heal from using Nature's Swiftness and Healing Touch but with this being passive it might balance out.
Hmmm. I don't know. I should play around with different talents more and see what I like better for solo-ing.
If you were US realm I'd help you with OS25 3D :c
Edit: Sorry this wasn't totally hunter related xD
♥
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
I'm afraid we won't recognize our class when they are done with us. BM might get the beat-down too, so be prepared to brush up on your SV or MM spec.
- Ariamodasu
- Artisan Hunter
- Posts: 544
- Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 4:18 am
- Realm: Hellscream (EU) | Terokkar (EU) | Bloodhoof (EU)
- Gender: Agender
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
I've been a Balance Druid since Vanilla so Aria's always been my main Just with plain hating raids out of sheer boredem/dealing with stupid I am pretty vulnerable if something tries to beat my face in. Alas! We're so gear dependent it's silly.Funk wrote:Yeah the Moonkin damage reduction is pretty depressing. My main is slowly becoming my Moonkin 'cause of how fun it is to play haha. I assume its because well geared Moonkins are hard to kill in PvP.
On the bright side, Nature's Swiftness is being replaced by what looks like a new heal:
"Ysera's Gift, a new talent healing the Druid for 5% of their maximum health every 5 seconds. If the Druid is at full health, it will heal the most injured friendly target nearby instead. This talent fills the spot vacated by Nature's Swiftness."
(from the patch notes)
On the PTR it is passive and has a 100yrd range.
I liked the nice, insta-heal from using Nature's Swiftness and Healing Touch but with this being passive it might balance out.
Hmmm. I don't know. I should play around with different talents more and see what I like better for solo-ing.
If you were US realm I'd help you with OS25 3D :c
Edit: Sorry this wasn't totally hunter related xD
Is typical I power leveled my Alliance Hunter for Brewfest to finally get my Brewfest Kodo so she has way better gear than my Horde Hunter Mitsuko who would get guild help to get us all that gorgeous Twilight drake. She dinged on Nesingwary in Four Winds which shows how out of kilter she is and how much gear I'll have to zerg up to compensate being our highest levels are mostly casters. That is in big part why Stampede nerf will really bite as that burst melee distraction is just what we need!
Plus the Dino-mancers, not a chance in hell I'm touching them on Aria so losing silencing shot will be a bleeding nightmare for me to farm them...
PvP nuking effecting all, this sounds so familiar to many Druid nerfs into the floor over the years...
-
Rest in Peace Yasindra/Ryai
- Gelannerai
- Journeyman Hunter
- Posts: 182
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:09 am
- Realm: Baelgun
- Gender: Male
- Location: Haddonfield, IL
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
And there are changes coming for Hunters as well as the recent hotfixes that stopped pets summoned by Stampede using abilities and giving Blink Strikes a 20 second cooldown.
Hot damn. WE GET MORE NERFS. OH GOODIE.
I hate pvpers so much right now.
someday I'll find someplace to host a sig that isn't stupid money-grubbing photobucket
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
also I made a post on the forums about it here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... 596?page=1Gelannerai wrote:Has there been any sort of blue response on how this change stonewalls people trying to tame Hutia?
so far no joy from the blues though, of course. And a lot of people who don't seem to understand what a 'non-pet-related interrupt' is. Like...the guy who says you can use Feign.
Sure dude. Go back to your 58 DK.
someday I'll find someplace to host a sig that isn't stupid money-grubbing photobucket
- Aeladrine
- Grand Master Hunter
- Posts: 2803
- Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:06 pm
- Realm: Frostwolf, Blackwater Raiders
- Gender: Female
- Location: Tumblr, probably.
- Contact:
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
Totally fantastic avatars and signatures by Sookie, Nili, Serenith, and Kurenio.
Tumblr || Deviantart || WoW RP Blog
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
also I'm pretty sure bosses are immune to most pet abilities, so there's that.
someday I'll find someplace to host a sig that isn't stupid money-grubbing photobucket
- Gimlion
- Grand Master Hunter
- Posts: 1911
- Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:57 am
- Realm: Nordrassil
- Gender: Male
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
"You cannot judge me, I am Justice itself! We were meant for more than this, to protect the innocent. But, if our precious laws bind you all to inaction, then I will no longer stand as your brother." - Tyrael
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. I don't know if all of the PvP QQers realize but, hunters got MANY nerfs with 5.3. Their burst damage was nerfed with the Blink Strike change and the PvP power 4-set bonus. Their CC was nerfed with the increase to pet CC cooldowns along with the removal of the 30% cooldown reduction from being BM. Their utility was also nerfed because now, Roar of Sacrifice and Bullheaded have longer cooldowns too. Lastly, they lost Intimidation because Silencing Shot was almost always better. The only buffs they got were to compensate for PvE.Those kinds of posts have been going on for a while on the arena forums. Thing is, none of them realize that hunters aren't OP in PvE and none of them understand how to balance a game. In arenas it wasn't just that hunters were very very good, but also that they had great synergy with feral (and as far as I can tell, any melee) add a healer into a competent team and the trio was very OP.
I guess I should mention also, that if you don't do arena, or have friends that do arena, or browse the arena forums/watch youtube videos then you'd probably have no idea that hunters were so absolutely OP. That's part of why I wish when they balanced they'd take into consideration how different PvP and PvE can be for any given class and maybe make PvE/PvP specific changes.
One of the only reasons they're doing better this patch than last patch, IN SPITE OF THEIR MASSIVE NERFS, is because the other ranged specs were nerfed as well. Shadow got hit pretty hard with the Mass Dispel and Void Shift nerfs, mages got their Incanter's Ward nerfed, and Destro locks got their Chaos Bolt nerfed.
The other reason is because most of the melee specs got buffs as well. Ferals got a buff to Savage Roar (and the Force of Nature change opened up more options to them too), WW monks got a buff to Rising Sun Kick and Nimble Brew, Ret pallies got a buff to Sword of Light (15% more damage), Enhancement shammies got a damage reduction buff with the Glyph of Lightning Shield AND got damage buffs too, and Arms warriors got a buff to their survivability with the Defensive Stance and Shield Wall changes. The only melee that received nerfs were Unholy DKs (though they also got a buff to Necrotic Strike's healing absorption effect) and rogues. Nevertheless, PHD and Thug Cleave are still going strong and PriestHDK has rocketed in popularity.
In the end, there's a reason that hunters are so common in arena now, but IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF THE HUNTER. It's because of the entire metagame of 5.3 PvP and the nerfs and buffs other specs received.
- Gelannerai
- Journeyman Hunter
- Posts: 182
- Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:09 am
- Realm: Baelgun
- Gender: Male
- Location: Haddonfield, IL
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
Nachtwulf wrote:also I made a post on the forums about it here: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... 596?page=1Gelannerai wrote:Has there been any sort of blue response on how this change stonewalls people trying to tame Hutia?
so far no joy from the blues though, of course. And a lot of people who don't seem to understand what a 'non-pet-related interrupt' is. Like...the guy who says you can use Feign.
Sure dude. Go back to your 58 DK.
Wow. I really wish people would figure out how basic Hunter mechanics work before opening their ignorant mouths to whine about it.
-
- Expert Hunter
- Posts: 399
- Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:23 pm
- Realm: Wyrmrest Accord
- Gender: Male
- Location: Lost Isles
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
The nerf to our 30% reduction of pet skills, does actually severely hurt. My beetle, once a fantastic pet tank, is now all but useless. Even /cower/ is on a painfully long CD now. Maybe not in the high and mighty holy grail of WOW, PVP, but in PVE it really does.
All of this has only taught me to HATE PVP in this game with an unrelenting passion. I apologize to those who enjoy it, I really do. I'm just sick to death of it. Enough so where my hunter is no longer my main. After seven, eight years of maining a hunter, I now run a rogue.
A damn rogue. Because he can effortlessly kill the mobs my HUNTER struggles with and gets gibbed by. I know and understand that Blizzard isn't going to change what they're doing just because I'm not running a hunter as my primary anymore, they only listen to the loss of subs.. but I still like the game, and Blizz is only interested in opinions that come with the loss of money, so my opinion doesn't matter.
...Sorry for the rant. I see a lot of good things coming in 5.4. I'm just really... really sad that they're not coming for my once favorite character.
- Ana
- Community Resource
- Posts: 18695
- Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:19 am
- Realm: Light EU Twintania/ Azol-Nerub EU
- Gender: Female
- Location: Copenhagen- Denmark
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
I´ve always played bm hunter cept for a brief period in icc... i KNOW we will survive.. but the changes makes me grrr
could not agree more... i feel the game drifting to much around PvP and i always liked that the two parts were seperate.. i hope loads of these changes wont see live..All of this has only taught me to HATE PVP in this game with an unrelenting passion
HUGE thanks to Makoes, Syleye, FeralClaw, Pingupuff, Karin,Bowno, Varethyn, Ashaine, Kishay, Aki (Täräin13), my friend Marie and some lovely ppl on Fligth Rising for my lovely sig
- Gimlion
- Grand Master Hunter
- Posts: 1911
- Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:57 am
- Realm: Nordrassil
- Gender: Male
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
This is because of the still largely present bias towards BM. We're either hated because we aren't good enough (LK), because people don't know any better (cata) or because we're finally viable and GOOD (Now). The entire community as a whole is shit, and don't know what's actually good for the game; the fact that blizz listens to them is even more dumbfounding.Tårnfalk wrote:Reading on the hunter forums .. seams like ALOT of ppl are happy for these nerfs.. and just say that ss always was a mm talent..
I´ve always played bm hunter cept for a brief period in icc... i KNOW we will survive.. but the changes makes me grrr
"You cannot judge me, I am Justice itself! We were meant for more than this, to protect the innocent. But, if our precious laws bind you all to inaction, then I will no longer stand as your brother." - Tyrael
- Poearia
- Apprentice Hunter
- Posts: 63
- Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:39 pm
- Realm: Fizzcrank
- Gender: Female
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
- Rawr
- Illustrious Master Hunter
- Posts: 4481
- Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:21 pm
- Realm: Draka-Wyrmrest Accord
- Gender: Female
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
-
- Master Hunter
- Posts: 1126
- Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:35 pm
- Realm: Draka
- Gender: Male for both
- Location: If I'm somewhere else, I can't be here
Re: Hunter Changes in 5.4
( I tried solo taming Hutia and that was a complete disaster .I even tried with a tank and a healer helping and we still all died)