BOA mounts

[Jelani]

Eh, my opinion. I worked my cute little tauren tail off for those mounts. I earn things on my main and my alts get the benefits. I dont see anything wrong with my alts benefiting from mains hard work. Because in the end. I put in the work no matter what toon. It shows off my adventures. Why not show off things I have earned?

But hey, in the end, to each their own.

[Danielfboone]

Under my scenario, alts still benefit from the main's work just in a more consistent (in my opinion) way. They don't have to work to get Talbuks for example but the first time they set foot in Nagrand, they can use them. The same would apply to Dragon Turtles. You don't have to regain the rep and the second you get off the boat in Pandaria, you can ride them. I think it would also be cool if what the main does is open up the mount stable in an area and make it accessible to those who follow him. Like the alt goes there and the NPC says "Hi, I have something for you courtesy of , <insert name here>. I guess I'm just expecting the game to be too realistic in some areas.

[Makoes]

but...dragon turtles can be obtained via faction rep like any other faction mount, so even a brand new player can be ridding around on a dragon turtle at lv 20 without the help of a maxed alt. You know, pandarens in SW/Org...so you kinda failed there already...

And to justify having say a lv 20 ridding around on a talbuk? well, they had a friend who got some talbuks, the talkbuks really liked each other and bam, baby talbuks...or a few raven lords decided to do the tango and laid a bunch of eggs...

You want realistics but ignore the possibility of natural breeding outside the quartermasters...you want realistic? this is a game full of MAGIC. Not to mention that vanilla has already happened, BC has already happened, Lich king, already happened, cataclysm? already happened, now we are in the time of Pandaria, so whats to say that logically all those pretty factions and their for sale mounts have just been idling around? Whats to say they haven't expanded beyond where we first discovered them? or to say that others in all this time haven't done their own mount breeding to provide such awesome mounts to a wider clientele?

We play a game where its unrealistic to expect blizzard to revamp every single quest line to remain completely up-to-date with the current expansion, where bosses respawn after being killed, where players never truely die, where Gnomeregan is STILL full of leper gnomes...and you expect the game to be realistic in some areas?

...right...have fun with that *snicker*

[Sukurachi]

+1

totally agree Makoes

[Danielfboone]

The only ones who can ride Dragon Turtles at level 20 through rep are Pandaren and that's fine since there is a turtle stable in Stormwind. Other races should have to wait until they get to Pandaria. Although the presence of the turtle breeder in SW might make them an exception for alts since they can be obtained before ever seeing Pandaria.

[Lupen202]

I disagree. I don't see the issue, personally, in a level 20 using invincible or raven lord, or some level 60 using the ICC achievement mounts. You still put the work in to farm the dungeon/raid/rare spawn or complete the achievement, so why shouldn't you be able to use that well earned mount on your alts as well? I LOVE being able to use Aeonaxx, who I farmed on and off for months when not on my main. I LOVE using my direhorns, hippogryphs, cranes and so on when leveling around Azeroth - before I get flight training.

[Danielfboone]

If you don't see an issue with riding a Direhorn through Elwynn Forest or Loch Modan with a toon that hasn't even sniffed the Mists of Pandaria, so be it. I just find it ridiculous.

[Azunara]

I feel like this topic is just going around in circles. At the end of the day, if you have the mount, use it when you want. The end. Plain and simple. If you don't want to use your frostwyrm in OL, cool. If you want to run around on your yak in Redridge, why the hell not? Do what you like. Do what you enjoy. That's all.

[Chimera]

So I noticed no ones talked about profession mounts.

Whats the reasoning on things like Gem Panthers?
Sandstone Drake?
The motorcycle?
Fossilized Raptor?

With this reasoning, only Jewelcrafters who have the reputation, skill, and pattern to acquire the gem panthers should get to ride them.

Only Alchemists with the pattern and skill to make Sandstone Drake should get to ride one.

Only Engineers with the reputation, pattern and skill to make the motorcycle should ride one.

Only someone who has discovered and finished the Archaeology puzzle for the raptor should get to ride it.

No one who doesn't have the right reputation, skill, and pattern to make these things should get to ride one, even though they are non-organic and logically, in both fantasy and realistic world, someone who can craft it could craft it for someone else as theres no 'instruction booklet' to use them (unlike the helicoptors and carpets for engineers and tailors which still require the right profession skill to use). It would make sense seeing as breeding apparently won't exist in this desired world.

What about mounts such as the dragonhawks? The albino drake? Albino drake is from having 50 mounts and two of the dragonhawks are from 100 mounts. Since blood elves are the only ones to have dragonhawks naturally (aside from Amani forest trolls but we have Darkspear, so they aren't allowed racially to use them, right?), shouldn't they be the only ones to get to ride one? Albino drake doesn't fit anywhere in any zone, faction, or lore. So no one should be able to ride it since its not realistic for anyone of any level to have one. Specially seeing as we don't know what flight the albino could of come from as it's albino.

What about chromatic drakes? They were created by Nefarion, we fight them in Vanilla, we should have valid reason to ride the obtainable one as soon as we can fly since they existed in Vanilla.

What about store mounts? Bloodwing could be used right off the bat (no pun intended), since Forsaken have always used bats for war and transportation. Blizz just didn't have any armored models till now as they were taxi or tameable beasts. Winged Guardian? He looks like he's a construct from Uldum, so we shouldn't get to use him till Cataclysm. Same for the gold serpent-dragon-thingy. Celestial Steed looks like it came from Ulduar so we should wait till WotLK to use it. Windsteed fits snugly into Pandarian culture so we shouldn't get to use it till we enter Pandaria.

The Cenarion Hippogryph? Night elves have been riding them for all their existence pretty much. They at least should get to ride the Cenarion one right away, specially if a druid, as Cenarion Circle has always existed and being of night elf origin, has closer ties to all night elves in general than tauren.

What about the RaF mount, Obsidian Nightwing? The collectors edition Quilen, Tyrael's Charger? The Nightwing and Quilen are too MoP-ish, they shouldn't get to be used till Pandaria, to fit in with the level-to-ride system. Tyrael's Charger is completely out of place in all shape and form to WoW as it's model was based off Tyrael from Diablo, a totally different and non-related game. So no one should get to ride it as it's not even the right game and thus has no place in WoW.

What about event mounts? Brewfest, Love is in the Air? Players should have to wait till the event to ride one as it'd be illogical to ride one before then. Same for Darkmoon Faire, they need to first visit the Faire to ride one of those mounts.

Theres also vendor mounts from the woman in Dalaran. Namely the Armored Blue Wyvern and Armored Snowy Gryphon. Should we get to ride them right away or not till WotLK? They're the basic Horde/Alliance racial flying mounts, but you can't buy them in-game till WotLK. We already have Blue and Snowy unarmored versions, so I don't see why anyone would need to wait just to throw armor on them for two expansions when theres already armored versions of all other Wyverns and Gryphons players can obtain from Orgrimmar and Stormwind.

[Sukurachi]

That is the main problem with saying "it's ridiculous that...."
No matter what YOU yourself find "ridiculous", there will always be something that you find acceptable and that someone ELSE will find "ridiculous".

So in the end, what the hell does it matter that these mounts don't fit into your perception of how mounts "should" work? Just play the game the way you want to play it, and leave other people out of your mount rants. Let other people play the way they want to. It doesn't affect you in the short or long run. So WHY is it even bothering you?

It's like people who say that marriage equality will somehow make their own marriage "less" than it was. It doesn't affect you. Mind your own business.

[Danielfboone]

The criteria would be the expansion the mounts first became available in and then the zone within that expansion if applicable.

[SpiritBinder]

I feel like this topic is just going around in circles.

Going to agree with this one guys.

I believe this idea has been covered pretty well, enough to see that not everyone is going to agree on this concept for now.

And just a quick reminder, please be aware that if you are going to present ideas on a forum, you are going to have people that may or may not agree with your own. It's just something that you need to be prepared for and try to respect someone’s perspective/opinion as you would have them respect yours. By all means banter and discuss, just try to avoid being to overbearing or dismissive.

[Rawr]

Still upset that only one of my DKs can use the bone griphon I bought. I still don't understand why either. I mean I know its a class mount but all my pallies can use the same charger and all my engineers use the same copter. It's just stupid.

[SpiritBinder]

Still upset that only one of my DKs can use the bone griphon I bought. I still don't understand why either. I mean I know its a class mount but all my pallies can use the same charger and all my engineers use the same copter. It's just stupid.

Sorry to take it off topic, but that’s kind of interesting.

So if one creates a Human Paladin and lvls him high enough to obtain a Charger Horse mount, and one then lvls a Taruen Paladin , when it turns lvl 20 he does not need to learn it's Charger Kodo as it's already learnt?

I wonder if the difference with the bone gryphon is that you have to “learn” how to use it kind of like the horse? (I actually cant remeber tbh >.<)

[Rawr]

Still upset that only one of my DKs can use the bone griphon I bought. I still don't understand why either. I mean I know its a class mount but all my pallies can use the same charger and all my engineers use the same copter. It's just stupid.

Sorry to take it off topic, but that’s kind of interesting.

So if one creates a Human Paladin and lvls him high enough to obtain a Charger Horse mount, and one then lvls a Taruen Paladin , when it turns lvl 20 he does not need to learn it's Charger Kodo as it's already learnt?

I wonder if the difference with the bone gryphon is that you have to “learn” how to use it kind of like the horse? (I actually cant remeber tbh >.<)

I bought it for my DKs to use, its just like buying any other mount with restrictions. The only restrictions on this mount is flying and DK class. Its just stupid only 1 of my DKs can use it unless I buy each one the mount.

[Chimera]

Still upset that only one of my DKs can use the bone griphon I bought. I still don't understand why either. I mean I know its a class mount but all my pallies can use the same charger and all my engineers use the same copter. It's just stupid.

Sorry to take it off topic, but that’s kind of interesting.

So if one creates a Human Paladin and lvls him high enough to obtain a Charger Horse mount, and one then lvls a Taruen Paladin , when it turns lvl 20 he does not need to learn it's Charger Kodo as it's already learnt?

I wonder if the difference with the bone gryphon is that you have to “learn” how to use it kind of like the horse? (I actually cant remeber tbh >.<)

I bought it for my DKs to use, its just like buying any other mount with restrictions. The only restrictions on this mount is flying and DK class. Its just stupid only 1 of my DKs can use it unless I buy each one the mount.

Yeesh, specially with how expensive it is too, makes me glad I don't play DK's XD That mounts the only flying mount I'd want to use for em as I like matching things Though for my farmer DK who can't fly yet, if i do ever get him to 60 and train him to fly, I may just have him use my Bloodwing. He's a worgen so it's not too bad for my picky brain, as its a RP server he's on I'll say he stole it from the Forsaken haha

[Castile]

I bought it for my DKs to use, its just like buying any other mount with restrictions. The only restrictions on this mount is flying and DK class. Its just stupid only 1 of my DKs can use it unless I buy each one the mount.

So if you bought this for one DK and made another on another realm they can't use it?? Thats dumb. It's so bloody expensive too for a class-only mount :/ (unless i miss-understood your post?)

I kinda see why it's restricted to that class though, we can't use the pally chargers or the argent charger on toons other than paladins. Also had no idea the chargers where 'shared'. So if i lvled a Tauren to 20 she'd already have the sun kodo??

[Rawr]

No it is expensive and only 1 can use it.

[Meggers]

Disagree, I got a lot of higher mounts (metas etc) multiple times before the change, and I'll be damned if I can't use any of em when I wanna.

200+ and I regularly rotate things around on various toons. Give em all some fresh air.

[Danielfboone]

I don't mean the character who originally obtained the mount would be restricted in any way. Only lower level characters who were granted it by the BOA system would be . The higher level toon could ride them anywhere he wanted. The ones who hadn't yet been to the area the mount comes from could not. When they reach that point, the mount is unlocked and can be used anywhere. No level 30 toons on level 90 mounts is the kind of thing I'm proposing.